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i care so much about the influence of western governments having a huge impact on the russian civil war and the following stability of the union that i wish I could read russian just to make a 10,000 word forum post that basically just says the holodomr was the US's fault
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Oh come on now that's absurd, it was also the British Empire's fault
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Poniard posted:its a miracle that people arent just quoting cspam posters they dont like in that thread i've been doing that forever
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God forbid the conspicuous consumption and waste created by capitalism be addressed
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yeah no, it's way too late for that what could *maybe* save us is a giant output in renewable/nukular energy sources to run the climate control in dome cities we'll need to survive post 2060, but nope we're doing the opposite instead lmfao good news tho, the solution that would have worked 40 years ago is finally being considered!
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post your best abraham lincoln brigade graphics thx in advance
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can we call “reducing energy consumption” something other than “degrowth” thanks
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THS posted:can we call “reducing energy consumption” something other than “degrowth” thanks does it matter what you call it if all you soft-headed babies are still going to cry about it
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They can call it whatever they want if they destroy car culture, get rid of all the useless plastic garbage poo poo that gets sold in stores, amd take down the giant LED billboard at the edge of my neighborhood.
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cenotaph posted:They can call it whatever they want if they destroy car culture, get rid of all the useless plastic garbage poo poo that gets sold in stores, amd take down the giant LED billboard at the edge of my neighborhood. sorry this is the socialism forum and apparently this is socialism: https://twitter.com/buckligerzwerg/status/1166726599171084288?s=19
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Autism Sneaks posted:does it matter what you call it if all you soft-headed babies are still going to cry about it yes degrowth is a stupid word bitch
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we would be replacing harmful economic activity with useful and sustainable economic activity. there’s no element of “degrowth” in that, rather it’s a fundamental restructuring of our society that would necessitate a hell of a lot of growth in some stuff while making carbon polluting industries obsolete. when we replaced horses with trains it wasnt “degrowing transportation” “degrowth” literally only appeals to primitivist anarchist hippies and is probably the worst way to sell green socialism
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THS posted:we would be replacing harmful economic activity with useful and sustainable economic activity. there’s no element of “degrowth” in that, rather it’s a fundamental restructuring of our society that would necessitate a hell of a lot of growth in some stuff while making carbon polluting industries obsolete. when we replaced horses with trains it wasnt “degrowing transportation” THS posted:yes
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I think you should actually have a grasp of what "growth" in economic terms means, which you obviously don't, before you declare "degrowth" as somehow inelegant or unhelpful as a descriptor of an opposing economic program
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Autism Sneaks posted:I think you should actually have a grasp of what "growth" in economic terms means, which you obviously don't, before you declare "degrowth" as somehow inelegant or unhelpful as a descriptor of an opposing economic program i have a grasp of what the technical definition of growth is in the field of economics. i also understand two other things 1. economics is a junk field and i dont give a gently caress about being technically correct when using their wonk technical terms 2. rhetorically the term “degrowth” doesnt scan in every other sense, and fails to accurately describe what actually needs to happen when discussing this in political terms
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who gives a gently caress about some bourgeois conception of market value and gdp, don’t define your economic terms in opposition to something that should be consigned to the trashbin of history; define it in terms of indicators of meaningful growth, in terms of human wellbeing and happiness. if everyone becomes bean farmers and works 5 hours a week but the average lifespan goes up 10 years then that’s growth
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Autism Sneaks posted:I think you should actually have a grasp of what "growth" in economic terms means, which you obviously don't, before you declare "degrowth" as somehow inelegant or unhelpful as a descriptor of an opposing economic program okay: "degrowth" is inelegant and unhelpful
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THS: Degrowth is an unrealistic concept that only appeals to out-of-touch hippies Also THS: Economic indicators should be measured in vibes
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I'm extremely excited to do Dual Power on the Dual Power App for iPhone and Android https://twitter.com/alexnpress/status/1169375322493587457 Edit: oh cool someone bought me an profile pic. Can someone tell me what it means big business man fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Sep 4, 2019 |
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MizPiz posted:THS: Degrowth is an unrealistic concept that only appeals to out-of-touch hippies i didnt say material indicators should be measured in good feelings, i’m making a rhetorical argument that the term degrowth does not accurately describe the political and economic program of a green socialism or the kind of communist planning required for the species to survive. and yeah liberal economics and conceptions of growth are dumb, and it’s almost just as dumb to take those conceptions at face value and call yourself degrowth in opposition to it. eat my rear end hole
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Postoyevsky posted:Edit: oh cool someone bought me an profile pic. Can someone tell me what it means it seems to be a thin blue line on a modified chinese flag have you been posting any anti-HK protests stuff on the forums lately
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Doctor Jeep posted:it seems to be a thin blue line on a modified chinese flag Nope lol 
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Postoyevsky posted:Nope lol lmao this might be a case of mistaken identity then $10 down the drain
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Autism Sneaks posted:sorry this is the socialism forum and apparently this is socialism: Sitting back and enjoying The Revolution's (tm) chicken sandwiches.
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Autism Sneaks posted:I think you should actually have a grasp of what "growth" in economic terms means, which you obviously don't, before you declare "degrowth" as somehow inelegant or unhelpful as a descriptor of an opposing economic program lol is this what you're gonna say to the millions and millions of people we're gonna need to convince, too? "shut the gently caress up idiot read a book i'm smarter than you" worked so well in 2016. "degrowth" sounds scary and dumb to 97% of people who aren't loving nerds, just call it something not scary and dumb
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ive brainstormed some alternate names for my new degrowth political org tell me if these work “stagnate! regress!” “the 11 hour of mankind” “darker horizons” “dusteaters of the nadir” “the adam lanza foundation for our childrens future”
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THS posted:ive brainstormed some alternate names for my new degrowth political org tell me if these work AVALANCHE
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Crazycryodude posted:lol is this what you're gonna say to the millions and millions of people we're gonna need to convince, too? "shut the gently caress up idiot read a book i'm smarter than you" worked so well in 2016. "degrowth" sounds scary and dumb to 97% of people who aren't loving nerds, just call it something not scary and dumb that's a moot point because it's gonna take guns pointed at those doe-eyed peasants just to get them to stop doing capitalism and environmental degredation, might as well make them read a dictionary and some Marx while they're at it
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