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When modding warframes, what mods are mandatory? It feels like you always want: Ability Efficiency, Max Energy, Ability Strength, Duration, etc. And which of them can you safely drop in which situations?
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Sep 4, 2019 07:43
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Zereth posted:... Are you suggesting that you don't slap Animal Instinct on all your sentinels/pets/moas/whatever, all the time? I don't have Animal Instinct I'm barely in to Saturn. Though it feels like I'm just about ready to blast straight through the Star Chart, I'm actually pretty pimped out since the weekend, I've got a 3-forma Hek, a Primed Point Blank, and a Scattered Justice.
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Sep 4, 2019 07:47
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Phobophilia posted:When modding warframes, what mods are mandatory? It feels like you always want: Ability Efficiency, Max Energy, Ability Strength, Duration, etc. And which of them can you safely drop in which situations? Depends on the frame. Some demand that you go all in on strength, others let you dump range or duration without consequence, and when you get Rage or a set of Arcane Energize efficiency becomes less important than total energy capacity. I usually lean towards range and efficiency on most frames. There's no point to having powers if you can't afford to cast them or they won't reach your target.
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Sep 4, 2019 07:48
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Phobophilia posted:When modding warframes, what mods are mandatory? It feels like you always want: Ability Efficiency, Max Energy, Ability Strength, Duration, etc. And which of them can you safely drop in which situations? Your aura should always be Corrosive Projection until you know enough to know the very very small number of situations where you want something else. The rest is entirely specific to the frame and build. The only thing that's usually consistent is you want (Primed) Continuity, since the situations where duration doesn't matter are extremely rare. Even if that's your only duration mod, you're still slapping it in there. If your build has a defensive slot it's almost always Vitality, and a second defensive slot is always Adaptation.
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Sep 4, 2019 08:10
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Phobophilia posted:When modding warframes, what mods are mandatory? It feels like you always want: Ability Efficiency, Max Energy, Ability Strength, Duration, etc. And which of them can you safely drop in which situations? There are no universally mandatory mods, it depends on the Warframe and on what you're doing with it. I guess maybe Vitality (health), because there are very few truly shield-tanking frames and they're kind of gimmicky due to all the shortcomings and exceptions involved with shield tanking, but even that's negotiable. And Corrosive Projection, of course. Mailer posted:If your build has a defensive slot it's almost always Vitality, and a second defensive slot is always Adaptation. Adaptation isn't even close to universal. Squishy frames get no benefit from it because it's burst damage, not sustained damage, that kills you, and Adaptation only helps with the latter. Super-tanky frames usually don't need it because it's simply overkill for the vast majority of content. The only time it really makes sense is on frames that either want to sit around taking damage on purpose, or that have massive health pools + innate regen, or both. I use it on Nidus and Wisp, and not much else, for example. e: it's also good for shield tanking, since it's one of the very few ways to get resistances on shield HP, but again, shield tanking is kind of a gimmick Tuxedo Catfish fucked around with this message at 08:20 on Sep 4, 2019 |
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Sep 4, 2019 08:11
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I tend to use it on frames who aren't absolute tanks but can almost always take a hit or three. If I have a slot left over for it and feel like making my survivability silly good, usually opposed to slightly bumping some stat i'm already stacking because there is little benefit to slotting an augur mod, for example. Just to add to what others have said, duration is usually nice and I almost always like at least 130% efficiency. But there are certainly frames that don't really need to worry about it, my eso saryn build definitely has tanked efficiency. Some frames don't care about strength at all, others don't really care about range. It very much depends, the most common things you'll be buffing are vitality, max energy from flow, and then you'll usually either buff out two stats or go with a kind of balanced build with some utility thrown in there.
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Sep 4, 2019 08:24
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Anora posted:Also is the Scoliac considered super good or something, I'm seeing the Rivens go for a ton on the PS4? Not really on its own, but it has a very good disposition and can do some silly stuff with Maiming Strike. People love their spin2win.
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Sep 4, 2019 08:38
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Adaptation + Redirection + Arcane Aegis is a solid shield tanking combo that works on a lot of frames that don't have a way to be tanky normally. Frames with 300+ base armor or health buffs/restores built into their kit will still want health/armor, but I've found it to be pretty effective for a lot less of an investment than the Arcane Grace + Guardian combo.
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Sep 4, 2019 09:00
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Phobophilia posted:I don't have Animal Instinct I'm barely in to Saturn. Though it feels like I'm just about ready to blast straight through the Star Chart, I'm actually pretty pimped out since the weekend, I've got a 3-forma Hek, a Primed Point Blank, and a Scattered Justice.
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Sep 4, 2019 09:13
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If you get oneshot then you're gonna die. Maybe a massive energy pool and Quick Thinking would save you, but you're now a frame made of paper with no energy. It really doesn't matter what your second defensive slot is if you're taking overwhelming damage. I don't bother trying to protect against this. Adaptation will save you a ton of damage from sources you otherwise are just going to eat. Stray bullets, status procs, all the random eidolon bullshit that isn't a yellow laser, and anything else that would kill you but won't because your Grace kicks in or you have time to pop into spoiler to let Repair work or you pick up some life jello. It makes your shields actually mean something, even if it's a tiny boost. It's a really, really good mod. What I said is incorrect, though, because I was just basing it on frames I play and that tends to favor speed and killing power over damage protection. Rhino, Valkyr, Atlas, Chroma (if you're not using him for dolons), and Nidus would all probably benefit more from stacking armor as a secondary slot. They'd still benefit from Adaptation on top of that, but once you're virtually unkillable there isn't much reason to go that extra step. If you wanted completely unkillable you'd do the dumb Hildryn build anyway, assuming that hasn't been nerfed yet. Edit: Also none of this is really applicable to a new player. I was only mentioning it in terms of common links between builds. Adaptation, for a large portion of the cast, is gonna be your go-to secondary defensive mod for builds with a secondary defensive slot open.
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Sep 4, 2019 09:57
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Nidus doesn't benefit more from armor. Vitality + Adaptation makes him much tankier than triple umbrals, even. (I've played hundreds of hours with both these builds; it's quite noticeable.) However, this is because Nidus has incredibly high innate armor and health, a built-in source of 90% DR on top of that (but one that comes at an opportunity cost, so you don't always want it up), and is pretty much the poster child for Hunter Adrenaline use since he has no shields. Adaptation was made for him. Tuxedo Catfish fucked around with this message at 10:11 on Sep 4, 2019 |
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Sep 4, 2019 10:07
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An arcane guardian set will make any Warframe 3x more survivable, and is useful on nearly every Warframe in the game. It will also keep you alive long enough for adaptation to kick in.
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Sep 4, 2019 10:34
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Fun times
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Sep 4, 2019 13:27
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Adaptation and Arcanes don't belong in conversations for new playersTerbulus posted:Fun times Sonar rules
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Sep 4, 2019 14:13
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Terbulus posted:Fun times Oh THAT'S why I sometimes see glowy bits on enemies!
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Sep 4, 2019 14:37
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Cleretic posted:Oh THAT'S why I sometimes see glowy bits on enemies! Speaking of glowy bits on enemies, is there any way to make the Cephalon Simaris synthesis glowbits stand out better? Half the time I can't even tell if they exist.
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Sep 4, 2019 15:00
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prefect posted:Speaking of glowy bits on enemies, is there any way to make the Cephalon Simaris synthesis glowbits stand out better? Half the time I can't even tell if they exist. what, you can't tell the difference between glowing orange and fuzzy glowing orange when put through an orange filter?
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Sep 4, 2019 15:04
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Terbulus posted:Fun times Jesus! Do Banshee spectres cast Sonar? I can't remember.
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Sep 4, 2019 15:06
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Tulip posted:Adaptation and Arcanes don't belong in conversations for new players
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Sep 4, 2019 19:48
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Awesome! posted:adaptation is pretty cheap now. people have been giving them out in clan fairly regularly when it comes up. How many of those do they give out? They're Arbitration drops, aren't they?
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Sep 4, 2019 19:55
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i dunno one guy had like 5 to give a few weeks ago. i have 1 extra currently. they are only like 30p
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Sep 4, 2019 20:03
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Awesome! posted:adaptation is pretty cheap now. people have been giving them out in clan fairly regularly when it comes up. still don't like recommending r10 gold mods to new players
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Sep 4, 2019 20:04
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i think its one of the better mods to use at lower ranks since it still ramps up to full value. im leaving mine at r8 for the foreseeable future just for space concerns.
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Sep 4, 2019 20:06
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Speaking of that is it a good idea to leave umbral mods at r9 for space?
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Sep 4, 2019 20:08
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Nightwave event is active. Check the radio and the Invasions tab.Tulip posted:still don't like recommending r10 gold mods to new players
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Sep 4, 2019 20:11
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maxed intensify is nice. i have vitality at 9 and fiber at 8
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Sep 4, 2019 20:12
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leaving mods at anything other than max just means that you aren't using enough forma or you're like me and don't grind endo often, i think still have some from when they swapped from fusion cores to endo
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Sep 4, 2019 20:37
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my chroma had every slot polarized besides the 2 for umbral int and vit. to fit the r9 vit i already had to drop points off mods. i ended up putting this umbral forma into him.
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Sep 4, 2019 20:45
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Improbable Lobster posted:leaving mods at anything other than max just means that you aren't using enough forma I am limited by credits, not endo. (Eventually, I will have built everything in the foundry, so that should stop being a credit drain then. I think.)
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Sep 4, 2019 20:53
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prefect posted:I am limited by credits, not endo. (Eventually, I will have built everything in the foundry, so that should stop being a credit drain then. I think.) Run some index or take a taxi to exploiter orb, you will never be out of space bux again
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Sep 4, 2019 20:59
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Improbable Lobster posted:Run some index or take a taxi to exploiter orb, you will never be out of space bux again Run the Index. I was in the same shoes forever, never having enough credits for the things I wanted, until I finally tried the Index and realized it was easy, fast money in much higher quantities than I was getting before.
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Sep 4, 2019 21:05
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Improbable Lobster posted:Run some index or take a taxi to exploiter orb, you will never be out of space bux again Profit taker, exploiters resources
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Sep 4, 2019 21:07
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prefect posted:I am limited by credits, not endo. (Eventually, I will have built everything in the foundry, so that should stop being a credit drain then. I think.) PM me on discord when you want to run the Index (which I can taxi you to)! I need to farm some credits anyway.
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Sep 4, 2019 22:01
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I gotta stop playing Wukong P for everything. He trivializes a lot of content, especially when you one take an Ignis Wrath so you and your twin have one. Maybe Mirage should be my new main? I just love having clones/minions. Shame about Nyx not being great and I don't have Rev.
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Sep 4, 2019 22:04
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Tulip posted:still don't like recommending r10 gold mods to new players You don't need to upgrade Adaptation very much to get the benefit. You still hit 90% DR either way, it just takes slightly more hits, slightly more often if it isn't maxed.
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Sep 4, 2019 22:26
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No kidding. Inzombiac posted:I gotta stop playing Wukong P for everything. I just finally leveled Wukong yesterday and honestly that frame just seems too powerful and good for things that aren't "defending a single objective" (though it's great for that too with the clone, it's not perhaps as optimal as say Frost domes or Volt speeding mobile drones to the objective) (Plz no nerf) Cloud form is fantastic on Plains, too. (Is it faster than Gauss?) Really great when you need to zip over to a downed pubbie, puppy or kavat.
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Sep 4, 2019 22:32
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Kesper North posted:No kidding. oh god volt can speed up the drone escort missions? i know who i’m taking into poe bounties now.
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Sep 4, 2019 22:37
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Inzombiac posted:I gotta stop playing Wukong P for everything. Nyx is great but due to how skewed enemy damage is towards players low HP compared to their own massive HP, minions that aren't warframes with warframe levels of weapon damage will never be good. Their lovely AI doesn't help much either. Nyx is great at being 100% impervious to damage and ignoring enemy armor/shields. Too bad that they reworked her but didn't went as far as needed. Minion damage should be boosted by at least 10000% to matter, and should also work on enemies under chaos.
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Sep 4, 2019 22:41
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I Am Just a Box posted:Run the Index. I was in the same shoes forever, never having enough credits for the things I wanted, until I finally tried the Index and realized it was easy, fast money in much higher quantities than I was getting before. To be fair Index is boring as hell and I'm lazy
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Sep 4, 2019 22:45
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Kesper North posted:PM me on discord when you want to run the Index (which I can taxi you to)! I need to farm some credits anyway. Thanks for the offer, but during the week I mostly just complain and/or ask questions here. I won't be spending quality time playing until the weekend. 
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Sep 4, 2019 22:48
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