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You COULD probably but it would fly in the face of the intention of that rule you dingus.
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Schadenboner posted:If you do a Blackshields army with the Chymeriae trait (which forbids taking an allied detachment) can you still take them as an allied detachment (to Mechanicus or Solars Aux or whatever, subject to the "Fellow Warriors only" restriction as per usual for Blackshields)? yep
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Sep 4, 2019 20:29
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Really excited to see that army built and painted!
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Sep 4, 2019 20:53
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This is going to be the most Blanchitsu army ever
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Sep 4, 2019 21:09
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The Raven Guard would be far more interesting with a bunch of bits mashed in from these guys: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Warcry-Corvus-Cabal-2019
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Sep 4, 2019 21:18
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:The Raven Guard would be far more interesting with a bunch of bits mashed in from these guys: Hard disagree, but I do wish they'd redesign these dudes to look just a bit cooler. https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/Raven-Guard-Dark-Fury-Assault-Squad
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long-rear end nips Diane posted:Hard disagree, but I do wish they'd redesign these dudes to look just a bit cooler. Those guys are rad, stick the weird bird skull hat heads on them
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Sep 4, 2019 21:23
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:The Raven Guard would be far more interesting with a bunch of bits mashed in from these guys: They’re cool but the scale is off—if you wanted to do e.g. a legionary with one unarmored gnarled feathered arm ending in a clawed hand poking out from under a pauldron and holding a bolt pistol, you’d probably need it it to be beefier than the arms from that kit. I am planning on trying to learn how to make casts of the bird skulls masks they’re wearing so I can stick ‘em on the front of the RG Reiver helms, but that’s 40k stuff and this is the 30k thread.
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Sep 4, 2019 21:27
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Just lol if you think anyone plays Raven Guard.
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Lord_Hambrose posted:Just lol if you think anyone plays Raven Guard. I know like five people who’ve “started a raven guard army” and have yet to show a painted model. Curse of Corax.
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Sep 4, 2019 22:00
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They have fun looking rules I just have no desire to play them. Those ap2 claws are dope tho
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tallkidwithglasses posted:Really excited to see that army built and painted! Book 9 has a chart on the last page "marines must be this tall to be played"
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Sep 4, 2019 22:03
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I really like raven guard. I wrote up a ZM list that is extremely style over substance. Maybe I’ll do them after I complete all my toxx armies. 
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TTerrible posted:I really like raven guard. I wrote up a ZM list that is extremely style over substance. Maybe I’ll do them after I complete all my toxx armies. Ill add you as my sixth “I swear I’m doing a raven guard army” player.
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tallkidwithglasses posted:Ill add you as my sixth “I swear I’m doing a raven guard army” player. The models just own. The special lightning claws for sgts, the headhunter dudes. It’s all so cool. Mk6 is cool as hell in itself.
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It's really loving funny that Raven Guard are completely non-existent in the 30k community. Like, they're played less than even Iron Hands. Lore-accurate though.
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I JUST realized today that their funny wings on the Dark Furies are ravens.
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Real talk: 30k RG have a neat pacific islander aesthetic going on in some of the black book art and it'd be great to see it expanded to more of their model range. Their contemptor features some elements, but that's about it. And that's not to say that their models are bad or anything; the mor deythan are fantastic and the dark furies have the insane murder bird thing covered.
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You know who would make for some great Raven Guard proxies? These iron hands.
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Safety Factor posted:Real talk: 30k RG have a neat pacific islander aesthetic going on in some of the black book art and it'd be great to see it expanded to more of their model range. Their contemptor features some elements, but that's about it. And that's not to say that their models are bad or anything; the mor deythan are fantastic and the dark furies have the insane murder bird thing covered. Well, Corax hated the Pacific Islander aesthetic dudes and exiled them to the edge of the galaxy, so it’s no wonder they don’t get played up much in core RG stuff. Which, overall, was a service, as it allowed them to become the objectively far superior Carcharodons Astra. Raven Guard may be My Dudes but I can only look upon the Space Sharks in envy.
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Zasze posted:Those ap2 claws are dope tho Unfortunately, they are merely AP3, albeit with Rending. They’re still a pretty drat good deal for the points, but you might actually see some RG on the table if they were AP2.
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:The Raven Guard would be far more interesting with a bunch of bits mashed in from these guys: But enough about Primaris Shryke
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Stephenls posted:Well, Corax hated the Pacific Islander aesthetic dudes and exiled them to the edge of the galaxy, so it’s no wonder they don’t get played up much in core RG stuff. I'm curious what the split of space sharks vs ashen claws is from the outcasts since tyberos weapons were said to be from the ashen claws armory in outer dark. Broken Record Talk posted:Unfortunately, they are merely AP3, albeit with Rending. They’re still a pretty drat good deal for the points, but you might actually see some RG on the table if they were AP2. Huh I always thought they were native ap2 whoops.
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Zasze posted:Huh I always thought they were native ap2 whoops. They're also all master-crafted which I'm sure makes rolling out dark furies a fun time.
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Zasze posted:I'm curious what the split of space sharks vs ashen claws is from the outcasts since tyberos weapons were said to be from the ashen claws armory in outer dark. Given that the Carcharodons seem to become some sort of monsters as they age and the Ashen Claws don’t (and given that whatever sort of monsters they become don’t seem to have anything to do with sharks), my commentary about the Pale Nomads becoming the Carcharodons is probably just wrong and the Pale Nomads/Dust Clad became the Ashen Claws while some surviving Raptors fled Corax’s purge by following their predecessor-gene-brothers to the same edge of space and became the Carcharodons.
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Stephenls posted:Given that the Carcharodons seem to become some sort of monsters as they age and the Ashen Claws don’t (and given that whatever sort of monsters they become don’t seem to have anything to do with sharks), my commentary about the Pale Nomads becoming the Carcharodons is probably just wrong and the Pale Nomads/Dust Clad became the Ashen Claws while some surviving Raptors fled Corax’s purge by following their predecessor-gene-brothers to the same edge of space and became the Carcharodons. Third company is strongly hinted at being world eaters so its all kinds of interesting. The ashen claws also stole the nostromo Gene seed vaults contents before loving off so the space sharks might just be hosed up bathtub khymera.
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So Ashen Claws would be using Void Reavers thing in 30k and gently caress it, what sane man would play 40k.
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JBP posted:It's like the weird dude who you're taller than but when you sit down to dinner he's really big and you're like what the hell then you stand up to leave dinner and he's got small legs and you start yelling hey you've got wheels for legs wheels for legs wheels for legs and he cries I need someone to explain this post to me because I am really struggling.
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I played a doubles game once against Salamanders and Ravenguard. The Ravenguard player kept his entire army in reserve, so being a typical Alpha Legion player, I stacked his reserve rolls to -3, coming in on a 6+. We tabled the Salamanders player before turn 4 so I can't confirm that the Ravenguard guy actually had an army or not.Schadenboner posted:If you do a Blackshields army with the Chymeriae trait (which forbids taking an allied detachment) can you still take them as an allied detachment (to Mechanicus or Solars Aux or whatever, subject to the "Fellow Warriors only" restriction as per usual for Blackshields)? I've always played it so that if something forbids an allied detachment, they also can't be an allied detachment. Ghazk fucked around with this message at 16:12 on Sep 5, 2019 |
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Ghazk posted:I played a doubles game once against Salamanders and Ravenguard. The Ravenguard player kept his entire army in reserve, so being a typical Alpha Legion player, I stacked his reserve rolls to -3, coming in on a 6+. We tabled the Salamanders player before turn 4 so I can't confirm that the Ravenguard guy actually had an army or not. That’s hilarious, and entirely appropriate for Alpha Legion, so well done. Regarding the second thing; I do the same, as I feel that anything different is trying to game the system, which is pretty counter to the social contract that most of my local 30k community aims to adhere to.
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Broken Record Talk posted:Regarding the second thing; I do the same, as I feel that anything different is trying to game the system, which is pretty counter to the social contract that most of my local 30k community aims to adhere to. Eh, I think it’s at least semi intentional, given how stuff like the imperial army/alpha legion allies matrix works.
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tallkidwithglasses posted:Eh, I think it’s at least semi intentional, given how stuff like the imperial army/alpha legion allies matrix works. I think trying to game the system is how our local meta works.
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tallkidwithglasses posted:Eh, I think it’s at least semi intentional, given how stuff like the imperial army/alpha legion allies matrix works. Yeah it's weird. That matrix entry was confirmed to be intentional. But then the Headhunter Leviathal says "Detachments using this Rite of War may not take an Allied Detachment (They can't afford to leave witnesses!)." which makes me think that at least in that specific case the intent was no allies in any form.
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Booley posted:I think trying to game the system is how our local meta works. the WAAC PNW meta
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PNW meta makes Armies of Dark Compliance an automatic write off.
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before playing I beg my opponent for forgiveness
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 This one stipulation makes Armies of Dark Compliance DOA in the PNW.
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No he can play it but his wins dont count
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any change ZM boards are being pulled to be updated or did I officially screw myself by going to bed without ordering lmao
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A 50S RAYGUN posted:any change ZM boards are being pulled to be updated or did I officially screw myself by going to bed without ordering lmao  Such bold dreams
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