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mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011

Autism Sneaks posted:

that's a moot point because it's gonna take guns pointed at those doe-eyed peasants just to get them to stop doing capitalism and environmental degredation, might as well make them read a dictionary and some Marx while they're at it

because marx was definitely a proponent of the It's Not My Job To Educate You school of thought.

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Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016

mila kunis posted:

because marx was definitely a proponent of the It's Not My Job To Educate You school of thought.

there's definitely going to be reeducation camps, but you can gauge from the dumb book-hating "leftists" itt that you're going to have to prod people into them with the barrel of a gun and then Ludovico Technique each one into being a functional citizen

fabergay egg
Mar 1, 2012

it's not a rhetorical question, for politely saying 'you are an idiot, you don't know what you are talking about'


marx, one of the greatest posters of the 19th century, lived the :justpost: life to the fullest

Emmideer
Oct 20, 2011

Lovely night, no?
Grimey Drawer
:justpost:-Marxism

THS
Sep 15, 2017

Autism Sneaks posted:

there's definitely going to be reeducation camps, but you can gauge from the dumb book-hating "leftists" itt that you're going to have to prod people into them with the barrel of a gun and then Ludovico Technique each one into being a functional citizen

“leftists”

were you always this way or are you gaining strong crank energy as you get older

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019
Degrowth to me means Number no longer go up which is impossible

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
Degroaf

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

fabergay egg posted:

marx, one of the greatest posters of the 19th century, lived the :justpost: life to the fullest

Marx suffered for his posting, which not many posters can say today!

Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016

THS posted:

“leftists”

were you always this way or are you gaining strong crank energy as you get older

I can guarantee I am younger than you and that "crank energy" you speak off is the inexhaustible anima of Marxism-Leninism

SSJ_naruto_2003
Oct 12, 2012



how do you folks feel about an-prims. a person who i'd talked to for years about left ideas and socialism/communism, etc has been reading stirner and posting stirner memes for a year or so now. he just posted a giant screed about how he's not a leftist anymore, or a comrade, or any of that, because civilization is the great evil


anyways every an-prim i've met has been a relatively comfortable white westerner i wonder what that means

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

white people think they’re the ones who will finally realize the noble savage ideal

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

https://twitter.com/henrykrinkie/status/1169066853756481537?s=21

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:

how do you folks feel about an-prims. a person who i'd talked to for years about left ideas and socialism/communism, etc has been reading stirner and posting stirner memes for a year or so now. he just posted a giant screed about how he's not a leftist anymore, or a comrade, or any of that, because civilization is the great evil


anyways every an-prim i've met has been a relatively comfortable white westerner i wonder what that means

tell him to get the gently caress off the internet if he's a primitivist

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
anprims are one of my favorite meme ideologies and the fact DSA has an unironic anprim caucus cracks me up

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos
join my discord for amish singles

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

Degrofa

Flowers For Algeria
Dec 3, 2005

I humbly offer my services as forum inquisitor. There is absolutely no way I would abuse this power in any way.


luv 2 see marxists attacking on aesthetic issues an ideology that is actually scientific

Serf
May 5, 2011


anprims are, like all anarchists, wrong. they're just wrong in a particularly funny way

Poniard
Apr 3, 2011



Flowers For Algeria posted:

luv 2 see marxists attacking on aesthetic issues an ideology that is actually scientific

no marxists here, this is cspam

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

Flowers For Algeria posted:

luv 2 see marxists attacking on aesthetic issues an ideology that is actually scientific

same

Grevling
Dec 18, 2016

Flowers For Algeria posted:

luv 2 see marxists attacking on aesthetic issues an ideology that is actually scientific

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

THS posted:

ive brainstormed some alternate names for my new degrowth political org tell me if these work

“stagnate! regress!”

“the 11 hour of mankind”

“darker horizons”

“dusteaters of the nadir”

“the adam lanza foundation for our childrens future”

don't build stupid poo poo :tesla: - barrak obama

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
lol @ anprims itt, you have a meme ideology and this is you rn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfWMBxuA_Jw

Emmideer
Oct 20, 2011

Lovely night, no?
Grimey Drawer
what's the ideology for "whatever works"

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Jon Joe posted:

what's the ideology for "whatever works"

capitalist realism

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

He's right

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Jon Joe posted:

what's the ideology for "whatever works"

Malcolmmunist X

Emmideer
Oct 20, 2011

Lovely night, no?
Grimey Drawer

Homeless Friend posted:

Malcolmmunist X

drat that's good

Emmideer
Oct 20, 2011

Lovely night, no?
Grimey Drawer
What is to be done by any means necessary.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

cenotaph posted:

They can call it whatever they want if they destroy car culture, get rid of all the useless plastic garbage poo poo that gets sold in stores, amd take down the giant LED billboard at the edge of my neighborhood.

that's not what degrowth is. this would just be reorganizing the economy along non-capitalist principles. degrowth is when you mutter about 'overpopulation' and how destroying all the wicked polluting factories no matter what isnt technically genocide despite the fact a whole lot of people would starve or die from lack of medicine

im 100% serious when I say degrowth is fascist ideology, it's just from that weird branch of eco fascist that is very good at justifying poo poo like sterilization of poor people as being environmentally friendly

Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016
see? even Larry, an actual insane person on top of being an unbelievably myopic droog, is against degrowth. just mention shutting down the plant that makes the aerosol cans they use for whippets and they are already accusing you of being a literal Nazi for suggesting that a post-capitalist economy isn't just "everyone gets to live like rich people now"

Grevling
Dec 18, 2016

Degrowth is just austerity and capitalist realism because in a rational economy new technologies that let you produce more with less would mean you produce as much as needed with less, instead of just producing a lot more for profit.

Flowers For Algeria
Dec 3, 2005

I humbly offer my services as forum inquisitor. There is absolutely no way I would abuse this power in any way.


when you think about it, putting an end to conspicuous consumption and capitalist waste culture is also austerity

Kurnugia
Sep 2, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Flowers For Algeria posted:

when you think about it, putting an end to conspicuous consumption and capitalist waste culture is also austerity

except that the rich would also get to participate

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos
I'm all for degrowth! First we kill the 1 million richest people in the world, then we keep going in 1 million person blocks until climate change is fixed.

THS
Sep 15, 2017

Larry Parrish posted:

that's not what degrowth is. this would just be reorganizing the economy along non-capitalist principles. degrowth is when you mutter about 'overpopulation' and how destroying all the wicked polluting factories no matter what isnt technically genocide despite the fact a whole lot of people would starve or die from lack of medicine

im 100% serious when I say degrowth is fascist ideology, it's just from that weird branch of eco fascist that is very good at justifying poo poo like sterilization of poor people as being environmentally friendly

from what i can tell there are a few types of degrowth people, which is, people who are concerned about waste and are basically just eco socialists with a cspam-modded name, and then there are the malthusians who want to guarantee billions die. uhh.. i mean.. they think it’s inevitable billions have to die, but definitely not themselves! unless they are real depressive types

THS
Sep 15, 2017

also lol at bitching about receiving an aesthetic critique. if only marx had, instead of advocating communism, had advocated for poo poo doo doo i drink pissism

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

one way or another, rationalizing the economy means you'll be wiping out billions of dollars worth of value because it'll end up being made worthless or decommissioned - which looks like "degrowth" on paper. That also means Abraham Lincoln was history's greatest degrowthist.

THS
Sep 15, 2017

right but you’ll be diverting all the productive forces which were engaged in worthless activity into other new growth industries like solar energy, suburb razing, and reeducation camp guards and teachers

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mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3788502

praxis is posting right-wing authoritarians in this thread

this thread pwns. apparently a tankie is someone who doesn't want to send the tanks into venezuela

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