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What's a pithy way to put on a sign that servers saying "no problem" are being sincere? I've got "'No Problem' does actually mean it's not a problem" but there's got to be something better.
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# ? Sep 5, 2019 02:28 |
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# ? May 28, 2024 00:52 |
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"No problem means it's Saul Goodman"
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# ? Sep 5, 2019 02:33 |
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No problem v. You're Welcome is a false dichotomy. Most times when I'd say "no problem" it would be completely inappropriate to say "you're welcome." Customer: Could I have some more ice? Me (a condescending rear end in a top hat with no regard to my customer): No Problem Customer: Could I have some more ice? Me (now enlightened on the proper form of customer service): You're Welcome. Keep in mind both these interactions happen before I've actually gotten the customer some more ice.
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# ? Sep 5, 2019 03:20 |
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Skwirl posted:What's a pithy way to put on a sign that servers saying "no problem" are being sincere? I've never actually heard people give a fuss about the NP thing, but I'm aware it exists and would like to know more. Is it a regional, thing? An age thing? My loosely held belief is its an internet context boiling over to IRL, whrre NP is a pretty casual 'yeah sure' equivalent while being politer than yeah sure. Tell me more!
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# ? Sep 5, 2019 04:14 |
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TheParadigm posted:I've never actually heard people give a fuss about the NP thing, but I'm aware it exists and would like to know more. Is it a regional, thing? An age thing? It's an age thing. My understanding (having done some cursory reading about this months or years ago) is that people 40+, when they do something for you, want you to know that they were happy to have helped you, even if it put them out. Hence "you're welcome", they're basically saying that they know what they did wasn't necessary or expected but they did it for you anyway. Millennials and younger, when they do something for you, they think it's expected that they just do the thing, so they've adopted 'no problem' to signify that yes, they did the thing to help you, but they want to reassure you it didn't put them out and isn't a thing you have to even consider anymore. VVVV I like Sandwich Anarchist's better VVVVV Naelyan fucked around with this message at 05:16 on Sep 5, 2019 |
# ? Sep 5, 2019 04:22 |
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The "no problem" thing makes me legitimately angry. It means the same god drat thing as what you wanted me to say, and it's entirely irrelevant because I've been brainwashed to say "it's my pleasure" instead of "you're welcome" anyway you god drat hooligans. edit: Naelyan did a much better explanation of this part of the original post
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# ? Sep 5, 2019 04:24 |
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With older generations, they say "you're welcome" because they think their time effort is worth something and they should drat well be thanked for gracing you with their whim. Millenials and younger have been taught their whole lives that they are worthless and mean nothing, and should just help whenever they can to to reduce the collective misery of existence.
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# ? Sep 5, 2019 05:08 |
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Every once in a while my work gets on us for using negative language like "no problem" or even just the words "no" or "can't." I've just defaulted to "of course" to loving everything. also don't bother googling positive vs. negative language because it all reads like some bullshit marketing scam.
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# ? Sep 5, 2019 05:58 |
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TheParadigm posted:I've never actually heard people give a fuss about the NP thing, but I'm aware it exists and would like to know more. Is it a regional, thing? An age thing? I was personally and specifically called out in a yelp review because of it. Which is a very fun conversation to have with the manager. I'm paraphrasing but it was basically "Food was great, service was great until the [very specific description that's obviously me] server said 'no problem' when I wanted some ice for my wine, I shouldn't feel like asking for ice is a problem. So I'm taking two stars off."
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# ? Sep 5, 2019 06:10 |
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Two whole stars for that?! God I hate customers. Makes me think of the bad reviews we've gained because of such excellent criteria like "I don't like your location" and "my plain cheeseburger had cheese on it!"
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# ? Sep 5, 2019 06:13 |
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bare bottom pancakes posted:Two whole stars for that?! God I hate customers. Makes me think of the bad reviews we've gained because of such excellent criteria like "I don't like your location" and "my plain cheeseburger had cheese on it!" I worked at a diner where we regularly got dinged on yelp because we sold canned soda instead of having a soda gun.
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# ? Sep 5, 2019 06:18 |
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I agree that saying no problem isn’t a big deal, but it depends on where you work and who you’re serving. A big part of our job is using the correct language. “Yes of course” is just as easy to say, and not demeaning, but obviously it’s not your every day vocabulary. It’s your work/professional vocabulary. If my buddy at my house asks for ice, I’m not going to say “yes of course.” I’m going to say “sure man whatever.”
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# ? Sep 5, 2019 07:19 |
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The Maestro posted:I agree that saying no problem isn’t a big deal, but it depends on where you work and who you’re serving. A big part of our job is using the correct language. “Yes of course” is just as easy to say, and not demeaning, but obviously it’s not your every day vocabulary. It’s your work/professional vocabulary. If my buddy at my house asks for ice, I’m not going to say “yes of course.” I’m going to say “sure man whatever.” I've trained myself to say "yes, absolutely" or "of course" since that wonderful conversation I had with that manager about the "no problem" thing.
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# ? Sep 5, 2019 07:41 |
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I always went with 'sure thing'.
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# ? Sep 5, 2019 12:33 |
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Liquid Communism posted:I always went with 'sure thing'. This is also my go to. But I also work at a dive where you can get away with a LOT if the customer has a sense of humor. Like one bartender does the straight up "buy something or get out pal!" sometimes and everybody laughs (though he's also very good at knowing what kind of service a customer wants). Also since school started actual zero of my servers have daytime availability, so the owner and I are doing a lot of waiting tables because most of our day shifters can really only cook and kinda tend bar, and I hate it. I've cooked one shift in three weeks and it's the worst possible combination of boredom and customer wrangling.
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# ? Sep 5, 2019 13:42 |
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Skwirl posted:I was personally and specifically called out in a yelp review because of it. Which is a very fun conversation to have with the manager. how can anyone own a restaurant and not reply to that review with "please don't come back"
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# ? Sep 5, 2019 13:48 |
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Lol if you work for somewhere that doesn't buy enough yelp advertising to squelch bad reviews so you can just get away with treating lovely customers like the shits they are.
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# ? Sep 5, 2019 13:49 |
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Skwirl posted:What's a pithy way to put on a sign that servers saying "no problem" are being sincere? How about "It was no problem; until you fuckin' started"?
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# ? Sep 5, 2019 13:51 |
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Ghostnuke posted:how can anyone own a restaurant and not reply to that review with "please don't come back" I missed this the first time, but ice in wine?
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# ? Sep 5, 2019 14:06 |
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i just dont get the level of stupidity/solipsism where a restaurant does 99% of things right, someone says the wrong word that is clearly a generational gap if you give a moment of reflection, then you go online to try to make the restaurant fail and get that person fired. Just incomprehensible to me.
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# ? Sep 5, 2019 16:38 |
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No Wave posted:i just dont get the level of stupidity/solipsism where a restaurant does 99% of things right, someone says the wrong word that is clearly a generational gap if you give a moment of reflection, then you go online to try to make the restaurant fail and get that person fired. Just incomprehensible to me. People, by and large, loving suck. https://twitter.com/laurenthehough/status/1169323279477350402?s=19
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# ? Sep 5, 2019 17:14 |
Skwirl posted:People, by and large, loving suck. This person would die down here in Appalachia where everyone over 40 ends the transaction by saying " 'prishy-aytchuh "
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# ? Sep 5, 2019 17:46 |
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Stringent posted:I missed this the first time, but ice in wine? well yes next you're gonna tell me that's not how you make icewine
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# ? Sep 5, 2019 18:53 |
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I worked at a place where saying "no problem" was banned because saying something was not a problem implied the possibility of a problem existing and was therefore unacceptable. I pointed out that saying "you're welcome" implies that they are not welcome in the exact same way and never got a response to my email.
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# ? Sep 6, 2019 02:14 |
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We are only allowed to say “You’re welcome” because “Anything else is rude and makes you seem unfriendly.” I pointed out that by definition “You’re welcome” means I have gone out of my way and you should be grateful while “no problem” means that service is a given and the customers due. They did not have a response. The real reason is this casino is full of old people who hate anyone younger than 40 and saying no problem reminds them just how close they are to death and how rude today’s “kids” are. Really if you get offended because language changes over time you should learn and exclusively speak Latin or some other dead language.
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# ? Sep 6, 2019 06:00 |
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Boomers to Gitmo. Oh, poo poo, sorry. Guantanamo Bay.
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# ? Sep 6, 2019 14:15 |
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i always say "i couldn't have done it without you" entirely sincerely no complaints so far!
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# ? Sep 6, 2019 20:08 |
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Just say “Your wish is my command!” and throw down one of your smoke bombs to slip away behind . Problem solved.
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# ? Sep 6, 2019 20:39 |
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Is "Anything for you, daddy" going to far?
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# ? Sep 6, 2019 21:41 |
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“Ooooooh baby I like it raaaaaaawwwww” works in certain (highly limited) circumstances (you must do the ODB voice).
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# ? Sep 6, 2019 21:55 |
Can't hear raw outside of a Ramsay voice
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# ? Sep 6, 2019 22:26 |
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Submarine Sandpaper posted:Can't hear raw outside of a Ramsay voice https://twitter.com/tiemoose/status/1168991605795237889
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# ? Sep 6, 2019 22:45 |
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bloody ghost titty posted:“Ooooooh baby I like it raaaaaaawwwww” works in certain (highly limited) circumstances (you must do the ODB voice). First 10 seconds are stupid channel intro. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkoe8crWjEg
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# ? Sep 6, 2019 23:11 |
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So happy I work in an Italian restaurant that imports half the items on the menu. https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1170413952175607808?s=19 Air Skwirl fucked around with this message at 05:08 on Sep 8, 2019 |
# ? Sep 8, 2019 04:46 |
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Skwirl posted:People, by and large, loving suck. I'm a trash millennial so I guess that's why someone saying they appreciate me makes me feel way better then thanks
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# ? Sep 8, 2019 14:41 |
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Skwirl posted:So happy I work in an Italian restaurant that imports half the items on the menu. Whoa chef is gonna be piiiisssssssed
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# ? Sep 8, 2019 14:57 |
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Skwirl posted:So happy I work in an Italian restaurant that imports half the items on the menu. lol and this entire thing is because of a slapfight over who subsidizes airplanes more
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# ? Sep 8, 2019 19:50 |
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# ? Sep 9, 2019 03:45 |
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This is spot on lmao
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# ? Sep 9, 2019 17:47 |
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Phil Moscowitz posted:This is spot on lmao The drinks are too cheap is the only flaw.
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# ? Sep 9, 2019 17:59 |