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Deadpool is my waifu Speaking of lawsuits, is Mark Waid still fighting one off?
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Sep 7, 2019 05:40
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Space Fish posted:Anyone else notice an odd anti-librarian strain in CG rhetoric? Are there some librarians among us who want to defend their SJW zealotry when ordering diverse comics?
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Sep 7, 2019 05:40
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The AoT criticisms are the same as the ones against using the X-Men as stand ins for minorities if you want to keep it western comics centric.
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Sep 7, 2019 06:44
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Endless Mike posted:Anti-library seems to be a consistent right-wing thing, so it's not too shocking it comes up with CG. I'm sure that it lets poor people do literally anything is a big part of it. They hate it because it's "socialism."
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Sep 7, 2019 06:53
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Edmund Lava posted:The AoT criticisms are the same as the ones against using the X-Men as stand ins for minorities if you want to keep it western comics centric. Unless I'm completely misreading what's being said, no, they aren't, at all.
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Sep 7, 2019 08:13
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Japanese people love arm bands and use them for all sorts of stuff. They are a daily sight.
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Sep 7, 2019 09:25
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Lurdiak posted:Iron Spike is not a reliable source of information on any given topic, that's all I'm gonna say. You are incorrect. There are topics on which Iron Spike is a reliable source of information. I know this for a fact. That's all I'm going to say.
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Sep 7, 2019 09:48
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Lurdiak posted:Iron Spike is not a reliable source of information on any given topic, that's all I'm gonna say. I think the performance of IC kickstarters over the past few years suggests she's doing something right?
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Sep 7, 2019 12:31
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Skwirl posted:So glad the Vic stuff got shunted off to another subforum so we can keep this thread focused on comics and not anime. AOT is a comic. For the record, I always found the 'it's fascist' argument a little shaky because the persecuted fantasy-Jews with the freaky superpowers are the protagonists. It's like if someone read the Protocols of the Elders of Zion and went 'wow, these guys are badass, I want to tell their story'. Not the first time that's happened in Japan, actually.
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Sep 7, 2019 12:33
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AoT is a comic but not one most people here read and anyway it seems injected into this thread because some people want to throw in their entirely unrelated personal beefs about IronSpike for whatever reason? I am fairly sure that in terms of Industry Terribleness, *she said mean things about a manga I like!!!!!* is not what the thread title means Fangz fucked around with this message at 12:55 on Sep 7, 2019 |
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Sep 7, 2019 12:53
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I wish someone on Twitter would RIP me apart.
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Sep 7, 2019 13:08
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Nuns with Guns posted:Speaking of lawsuits, is Mark Waid still fighting one off? The last report I got was that Mark said, quote, "the publisher's deposition obliterated the plaintiff's claims." And it must be going well for Mark because you'd think Nick would drunkenly ramble about it on stream if it weren't.
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Sep 7, 2019 13:25
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Dawgstar posted:The last report I got was that Mark said, quote, "the publisher's deposition obliterated the plaintiff's claims." And it must be going well for Mark because you'd think Nick would drunkenly ramble about it on stream if it weren't. Oh that's good to hear. I figured we weren't getting much news because both sides had semi-competent lawyers who knew when to shut up, but I was worried having semi-competent lawyers might make it harder to throw the whole case out.
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Sep 7, 2019 14:36
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Rhyno posted:I wish someone on Twitter would RIP me apart. Link your twitter, I'll call you a twat on it. Dawgstar posted:The last report I got was that Mark said, quote, "the publisher's deposition obliterated the plaintiff's claims." And it must be going well for Mark because you'd think Nick would drunkenly ramble about it on stream if it weren't. Was BFL involved in that poo poo too? I thought that was more of an EVS deal.
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Sep 7, 2019 16:04
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Anora posted:Link your twitter, I'll call you a twat on it. That was between Nazi clownboy Vox Day and Waid, Vox got pretty much ex-communicated from Comicsgate for saying the quiet parts too loud.
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Sep 7, 2019 16:33
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Space Fish posted:My other grudge in this thread, which was also a personal derail (I'll shut up with these, I promise) was about a cishet white guy, so yes, it's weird to read into demographic information like that. oh my b, it was just a coincidence then. i gotcha  Gravy Jones posted:You are incorrect. There are topics on which Iron Spike is a reliable source of information. I know this for a fact. That's all I'm going to say. Fangz posted:I am fairly sure that in terms of Industry Terribleness, *she said mean things about a manga I like!!!!!* is not what the thread title means its no wonder she doesnt bother to actually post that much in bss. one post and everybodys got ~opinions~ site fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Sep 7, 2019 |
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Sep 7, 2019 17:29
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ryonguy posted:stick to digital or vanity POD instead of using the worst country in the world after the US on labor and the environment to print your comics. ryonguy posted:Yeah, somebody getting bent out of shape for someone pointing out they're being kinda lame for printing in a horrible country is a p good meltdown. So uh, where are people allowed to get stuff printed? Since you're railing against China but literally opened with the fact that the US is worse? Like is there some Swedish printer you'd recommend?
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Sep 7, 2019 17:36
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Anora posted:Was BFL involved in that poo poo too? I thought that was more of an EVS deal. Nick had Dickie on to talk his comic and about the case last month.
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Sep 7, 2019 18:02
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Just wanted to add some levity to the thread. https://twitter.com/ThatUmbrella/status/1170475789432840192?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw The duct tape will never know what hit it.
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Sep 8, 2019 03:10
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Okay, I know Chelsea Caine has her own issues, but I enjoyed her mockingbird series and this design probably owes more to the artist than her and is one of the things that set the comicsgaters off in the first place, so it's loving hilarious to me. https://twitter.com/Honeymoons_Over/status/1169701701831528450?s=19
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Sep 8, 2019 07:24
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Skwirl posted:Okay, I know Chelsea Caine has her own issues, but I enjoyed her mockingbird series and this design probably owes more to the artist than her and is one of the things that set the comicsgaters off in the first place, so it's loving hilarious to me. Ditto shacking Janet up with Tony.
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Sep 8, 2019 07:48
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Yvonmukluk posted:God, it really ticked me off that Slott decided to make her Peter's girlfriend in ASM and have him wear that shirt as a gag. Ehh, I avoided most of Slott's run on Spider-Man since I loving hated the small parts of it that I read, but if it was a one off joke that's fine. I'm also not reading his Iron Man, but Wasp dating Tony Stark isn't the worst concept, they've known each other forever and have a lot of trauma together, it makes a certain kind of sense they'd find comfort in each other.
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Sep 8, 2019 08:56
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Skwirl posted:Ehh, I avoided most of Slott's run on Spider-Man since I loving hated the small parts of it that I read, but if it was a one off joke that's fine. Also I'm probably mad about Jan dating Tony because I got the impression that Whitley was laying on some pretty heavy Jan/Bobbi subtext in Unstoppable Wasp with them as Nadia's two moms.
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Sep 8, 2019 11:00
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Yvonmukluk posted:Also I'm probably mad about Jan dating Tony because I got the impression that Whitley was laying on some pretty heavy Jan/Bobbi subtext in Unstoppable Wasp with them as Nadia's two moms. The book was sadly cancelled before it's time (loving twice), so who knows what the author's intent was, but I always read it as a strong, platonic, relationship. Like Jean Grey and Storm.
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Sep 8, 2019 11:18
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Peter and Bobbi reminded me of Peter and Felicia in that their super hero identities are great for each other but civilian identities not so much.
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Sep 8, 2019 13:58
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Also, the early Dan slott run is pretty good. It's when it kept going that it got bad. Once you get past Superior Spider-Man, you can stop there.
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Sep 8, 2019 14:09
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Tbh i didn't read any sapphic connection between Janet and Bobbi myself, but i hated seeing slott put Janet and Tony together because Tony sucks poo poo and Janet was doing very well for herself in wasp and has far too much self respect to get involved with someone like that But slott for some reason still has keys to the kingdom so here we are
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Sep 8, 2019 15:12
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I liked the Bobbi/Peter relationship and I also liked that she kicked him the gently caress out for being a sad sack child who couldn't get his poo poo together.
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Sep 8, 2019 15:17
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site posted:Tbh i didn't read any sapphic connection between Janet and Bobbi myself, but i hated seeing slott put Janet and Tony together because Tony sucks poo poo and Janet was doing very well for herself in wasp and has far too much self respect to get involved with someone like that My only guess is Spider-Man sold well for the entire 10 year run and that Slott is best friends with someone in upper management. You kind of need both in this industry. You could say that is true of any industry, though. I know this is probably the wrong kind of "terribleness", but boy howdy does it suck how our entire system -- from government to the business management to etc. -- is just one protracted popularity contest where actual merit is only considered a bonus. Especially when you consider how a popularity contest inherently maligns people who belong to traditionally oppressed groups. From experience, contemplate how hard it would be to make it in most fields while openly transgender, even in a very accepting area. Now consider all the job advancement opportunities you're going to get sidelined for and the general work environment you'll have to deal with it. Covok fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Sep 8, 2019 |
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Sep 8, 2019 16:01
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Covok posted:My only guess is Spider-Man sold well for the entire 10 year run and that Slott is best friends with someone in upper management. You kind of need both in this industry. You could say that is true of any industry, though. I know this is probably the wrong kind of "terribleness", but boy howdy does it suck how our entire system -- from government to the business management to etc. -- is just one protracted popularity contest where actual merit is only considered a bonus. Especially when you consider how a popularity contest inherently maligns people who belong to traditionally oppressed groups. From experience, contemplate how hard it would be to make it in most fields while openly transgender, even in a very accepting area. Now consider all the job advancement opportunities you're going to get sidelined for and the general work environment you'll have to deal with it. Yeah, I've seen specualtion that he was shuffled off Spider-Man and given FF and Iron Man as consolation prizes when there was the changing of the guard with Cebulski coming to power. Honestly if anyone has the keys to the marvel kingdom right now, it's Ewing. Which is an improvement. Edit: Granted he's still another white guy, but he seems to be at least actually qualified? Double edit: Make Jay Edidin the X-Line editor (at least) Marvel, you cowards. Yvonmukluk fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Sep 8, 2019 |
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Sep 8, 2019 16:21
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Oh gently caress no, why? I liked thinking of him as the goofy enthusiastic guy who can't draw feet. https://twitter.com/littlemac1183/status/1170749918576893953?s=20
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Sep 8, 2019 19:39
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Is it okay to be racist but not want the guy to say the quiet parts loud? Asking for me
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Sep 8, 2019 20:04
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Skwirl posted:Oh gently caress no, why? I liked thinking of him as the goofy enthusiastic guy who can't draw feet. Nice Soun Tendo avatar. Also, I'm somehow actually surprised that Rob Liefeild is a racist. He's chronically late, lazy, a bit of an idiot by his own admission, and a bit of a scam artists considering he kickstarted a comic that he neither finished nor refunded his backers, but I never got a racist vibe from him. I assumed he was probably transphobic and maybe homophobic, but I didn't assume racist.
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Sep 8, 2019 20:09
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Well that's a concrete reason to hate the guy.
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Sep 8, 2019 20:14
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Covok posted:Nice Soun Tendo avatar. all the non-white and/or non us resident artists are why hes not getting many gigs nowadays obviously
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Sep 8, 2019 20:23
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site posted:all the non-white and/or non us resident artists are why hes not getting many gigs nowadays obviously Are gigs even a problem for him? It seems to me like Rob can simply snap his fingers and Marvel will pay him to release a new X-Men miniseries.
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Sep 8, 2019 21:04
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Covok posted:Nice Soun Tendo avatar. I learned in high-school that as a white person my intuition for who is and isn't racist is fundamentally worthless. Especially after 9/11, I brought my Muslim friends to too many parties or places with people who were "totally chill, I swear" only to find out that, well, they weren't totally chill at all, and that people who were perfectly nice and friendly to me (another white person) were not so nice when you put them in the same room as PoC, and that a PoC's radar for sensing a bad vibe about race is always going to be better than mine, similarly to how I've learned that no matter how well intentioned or trustworthy a given cis person in my life is, I can't afford to trust them to be right about another cis person's character.
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Sep 8, 2019 21:04
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JordanKai posted:Are gigs even a problem for him? It seems to me like Rob can simply snap his fingers and Marvel will pay him to release a new X-Men miniseries. tbh i have no idea it was just a joke really, but the only thing i can remember him doing lately was that age of xman mini
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Sep 8, 2019 21:09
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Archyduchess posted:I learned in high-school that as a white person my intuition for who is and isn't racist is fundamentally worthless. Especially after 9/11, I brought my Muslim friends to too many parties or places with people who were "totally chill, I swear" only to find out that, well, they weren't totally chill at all, and that people who were perfectly nice and friendly to me (another white person) were not so nice when you put them in the same room as PoC, and that a PoC's radar for sensing a bad vibe about race is always going to be better than mine, similarly to how I've learned that no matter how well intentioned or trustworthy a given cis person in my life is, I can't afford to trust them to be right about another cis person's character. Yeah, but I'm not white, I'm mixed-race hispanic. But I do pass for white.
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Sep 8, 2019 21:33
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Covok posted:Yeah, but I'm not white, I'm mixed-race hispanic. But I do pass for white. Sorry for the presumption, I should've known better than to assume!
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Sep 8, 2019 21:48
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