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I started working on my reserve about two years ago now(oh my god kill me time keeps passing by) and that lines up with my understanding that things have improved working on reserve than under a Tory government. Of course it’s pretty easy to improve on abysmal. There’s, marginally, more support for my community but it’s still ravished by poverty and drug addiction and being 50km from a “city”. Edit: also I’ve been increasingly radicalized over the past couple of years. Wonder if that’s related at all. littleorv fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Sep 8, 2019 |
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Turns out Trudeau was more into shady ways than sunny ways.
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Thanks Stickarts! I've put this in the Good Post Zone on page one and put a reference to it in the OP. Thanks again for your hard work on this!
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lol i forgot about the haida tattoo
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i know hes bad but is trudeau likely to win or what i have no idea about ur politics or how your elections work
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Sep 8, 2019 23:17
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cargo cult posted:i know hes bad but is trudeau likely to win or what i have no idea about ur politics or how your elections work Still a toss up. But yeah it comes down to whether or not people are so pissed with Trudeau that they’d willingly elect a Conservative government run by a guy who makes Stephen Harper look like a smart, charismatic savant.
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cargo cult posted:i know hes bad but is trudeau likely to win or what i have no idea about ur politics or how your elections work it's hard to say. the most prominent and vocal of his critics lean heavily conservative, but they don't represent potential voters. the Liberal party's electoral success last cycle relied heavily on a lot of faux-progressiveness that helped get the wind back in their sails after a pretty disastrous decade, but they can't really play that card again. he still enjoys overall high approval rates, especially compared to his liberal contemporaries past and present, and the competition this time around is pretty weak compared to four years ago. Conservatives will exactly maintain their usual vote share, but the NDP (the Liberal's main competition) are suffering pretty hard going into this election.
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is the guy hes running against a full trump fash or what
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About the only certain thing about the upcoming federal election is that you can bank on record low turnout. The LPC is toxic after breaking most of their election promises last time, most notably electoral reform. The CPC is creeping into full on Alex Jones territory. The NDP is in shambles and as of a couple weeks ago at least were struggling to field candidates in every riding. Best case scenario is uh... a resurgent Bloc Québécois I guess? I don’t even know I can imagine a good result.
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best case scenario is a liberal minority with the ndp holding the balance
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Sep 8, 2019 23:40
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RBC posted:best case scenario is a liberal minority with the ndp holding the balance In that scenario Singh retains party leadership and we’re in the same drat boat next election. I’d count that among the worst possible outcomes.
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quote:“Well, you know what? Canada is not a nation. It never was and it never will be. Canada is a corporate state. And as soon as you look at that and recognize that and admit it, then maybe the Indigenous peoples across this land will start believing what comes out of your mouth,” Fuckin' Amen.
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BGrifter posted:In that scenario Singh retains party leadership and we’re in the same drat boat next election. I’d count that among the worst possible outcomes. So you feel the leadership of the NDP is more important than the actual governence of the country. Got it.
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cargo cult posted:is the guy hes running against a full trump fash or what Honestly, he's more Jeb! than Trump.
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cargo cult posted:is the guy hes running against a full trump fash or what Not exactly, but there isn't a direct equivalent in Canadian federal politics right now. Bernier is more openly xenophobic, but Scheer is cool with dogwhistle racism/xenophobia until he gets called on it. He's also 100% willing to, if not personally, allow his caucus to attack women's reproductive rights and gay marriage. Beyond that he's "a balloon animal filled with ground beef" who exudes a miasma of uncool suburban dad and has managed on several occasions to wilt under the pressure of facing the current PM in public.
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littleorv posted:also I’ve been increasingly radicalized over the past couple of years New working title for D&D.
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jesus that photo from the boxing match, I guess no one should've been shocked about his antics in India based off of that Haida tattoo on his shoulder
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RBC posted:So you feel the leadership of the NDP is more important than the actual governence of the country. Got it. Correct because the cpc and lpc parties will not help us
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RBC posted:So you feel the leadership of the NDP is more important than the actual governence of the country. Got it. Pretty much. The difference between any combo of the CPC/LPC/current NDP is so vanishingly small that I don’t see the scenario you described as a meaningful improvement. However I can imagine a world where the left wrests control away from Singh/Mulcair and the rest of the centrists presenting us with a real choice in the election after this one.
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Seems like you guys got a good ole Trump vs. Hillary matchup goin on up there.
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Chuka Umana posted:Seems like you guys got a good ole Trump vs. Hillary matchup goin on up there. No this is more like Obama vs. Romney. Trump vs. Hillary will be for after Scheer loses and the CPC goes full fash, up against a tired Trudeau seeking a third term with everyone hating him and a properly left-wing new NDP leader sapping his base's enthusiasm
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RBC posted:best case scenario is a liberal minority with the ndp holding the balance my dream scenario is an extremely tiny conservative minority that can't accomplish poo poo followed by a real estate crash that forces a new election and wipes them out e: the NDP being annihilated and forced to take stock and turn left again would also be good mila kunis fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Sep 9, 2019 |
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mila kunis posted:my dream scenario is an extremely tiny conservative minority that can't accomplish poo poo This would only work if the Liberals weren't willing to prop them up, and unfortunately history suggest that they will be more than happy to do so.
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mila kunis posted:my dream scenario is an extremely tiny conservative minority that can't accomplish poo poo followed by a real estate crash that forces a new election and wipes them out The last time that (sort of) happened, we got 10 years of Harperland. So be careful what you wish for.
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Counting on parties to learn their lessons and be better is, from a historical perspective, very foolish
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Yeah the danger of any minority government is the Liberals libbing it up with the Cons instead of the NDP.
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Btw that was a kickass effort post, Stickarts
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Its criminal that this was the last post of that page, as it is indeed extremely good!
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McGavin posted:Honestly, he's more Jeb! than Trump. He may be more Jeb! but the first thing he did on his political ascent was hire his own Steve Bannon. All conservatives are Trumpists now, they follow the mob, they don't lead it.
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Out of curiosity, what is the overall take on what the political landscape might look like, if a resurgent Bloc does do well in the polls and grabs a sizeable amount of seats? How might that change the political landscape going forward for the NDP, Liberals, CPC, greens, etc...?
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Guigui posted:resurgent Bloc 
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Guigui posted:Out of curiosity, what is the overall take on what the political landscape might look like, if a resurgent Bloc does do well in the polls and grabs a sizeable amount of seats? How might that change the political landscape going forward for the NDP, Liberals, CPC, greens, etc...? Not great, I may be wrong (as Quebec politics is inscrutable even to those of us just the other side of the border) but I don't believe they trade many voters with the Conservatives. It's just another way for the Canadian left to make their votes less efficient, and if you hadn't noticed we're already splitting our votes three ways. In theory they also make a lefty minority coalition less likely, that was certainly true a decade ago when Michael Ignatieff balked at the idea and gave us 7 more years of Harper.
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nine-gear crow posted:The last time that (sort of) happened, we got 10 years of Harperland. So be careful what you wish for. Not immediately. It led to a (at the time) far right party that was only prominent in 1-2 provinces to take over the CPC. This allowed them to take over the recognizable party name but reform (heh) the party from the inside and build it up while waiting for the Liberal party to scandal itself to death and hand the reins back over.
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Guigui posted:Out of curiosity, what is the overall take on what the political landscape might look like, if a resurgent Bloc does do well in the polls and grabs a sizeable amount of seats? How might that change the political landscape going forward for the NDP, Liberals, CPC, greens, etc...? I'd say it's a toss-up simply because the Bloc is a protest vote for left-leaning nationalists. KDSet fucked around with this message at 05:24 on Sep 9, 2019 |
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Furnaceface posted:Not immediately. It led to a (at the time) far right party that was only prominent in 1-2 provinces to take over the CPC. This allowed them to take over the recognizable party name but reform (heh) the party from the inside and build it up while waiting for the Liberal party to scandal itself to death and hand the reins back over. Minor quibble but they didn't take over a recognizable name. The Progressive Conservatives were the party that lost Western provincial support when the Reform Party of Canada was formed. The Reform party became the Canadian Conservative Reform Alliance party shortly (cue CCRAP joke). The CCRA party then merged with the Progressive Conservatives into the Conservative Party of Canada.
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Weird BIAS posted:The Reform party became the Canadian Conservative Reform Alliance party shortly (cue CCRAP joke). It's even more direct a joke, they went with Canadian Reform Alliance Party during the party convention. I remember watching it live. One of the younger members asked if they could rearrange the order of the words in the name and whomever was presiding over the whole thing said "Of course not!" not understanding the party acronym would be CRAP.
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BGrifter posted:It's even more direct a joke, they went with Canadian Reform Alliance Party during the party convention. I remember watching it live. One of the younger members asked if they could rearrange the order of the words in the name and whomever was presiding over the whole thing said "Of course not!" not understanding the party acronym would be CRAP. They figured it out real fast when the first Air Farce and 22 Minutes after the convention aired though...
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Yeah 22 minutes and royal canadian air force had material for months. e:motherfucker
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cargo cult posted:is the guy hes running against a full trump fash or what He's basically David Cameron
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Venomous posted:He's basically David Cameron No that's whoever is loving him.
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