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Anidav posted:Courier Mail is now reporting QLD fires were caused by teenage arsonists, not climate change.  Kids these days smdh
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Sep 10, 2019 22:01
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inTEREsting that the gov is against JOB CREATORS
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Sep 10, 2019 22:39
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What's the deal with the health insurance and premiums after 30 about again? Someone posted a good summary in the last thread now I can't find it
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Sep 10, 2019 23:41
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Short version outside of some birth plans and dental plans don't bother.
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Sep 11, 2019 00:14
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screaden posted:What's the deal with the health insurance and premiums after 30 about again? Someone posted a good summary in the last thread now I can't find it If we all stay strong and refuse to get private health the industry will fail and the whole thing can be re-nationalised
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Sep 11, 2019 00:18
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Get private for having a baby that's about it
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Sep 11, 2019 00:31
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i'm having a baby
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EoinCannon posted:If we all stay strong and refuse to get private health the industry will be propped up with increasing taxpayer subsidy to provide "choice" to the market
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Sep 11, 2019 00:44
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Yeah, Morrison would 100% bail them out. edit: will not would
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Sep 11, 2019 00:47
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kirbysuperstar posted:welfare did this I heard they rubbed their cashless welfare cards together to spark the blaze
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Sep 11, 2019 00:49
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bandaid.friend posted:Like you care We did it folks. For all our high horse rhetoric on gun control, we've still managed to co-opt and repurpose the US 'don't politicise on me' bullshit they trot out after every mass shooting. Good job.
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Sep 11, 2019 00:50
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Actually the cashless welfare cards would have stopped them buying free bongs and ciggies that caused this.
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Sep 11, 2019 00:50
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I reckon setting up a Wechat propaganda arm for the LNP in exchange for electing Gladys Liu is a fair trade yeah?
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Sep 11, 2019 01:31
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It's a little sobering to realise that extremist groups can just through a durry butt into the bush and cause a holocaust. Both here and in California. Surprised this hasn't made it onto their agenda yet.
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Bear in mind whenever anyone talks about the ‘results’ of the cashless welfare card trial, the only actually positive metric they have to show it is working, the evidence that they are pinning this entire loving rollout upon, is self reported drug/alcohol/gambling participation during face to face Centrelink interviews in the trial areas
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Sep 11, 2019 01:43
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I haven’t seen a single article question this, at best it’s simply presented alongside a statement from addiction councillors saying it isn’t working for some nebulous sense of balance but nobody has bothered to even question the credibility of implementing it based upon what people under the hammer are saying to try and get by and nothing else
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Former Labor leader Bill Shorten has declared the party will "learn the lessons" of defeat in a crucial election review to prepare for the next ballot, admitting changes were "inevitable" in the rethink of the party's direction and policies. In another step towards a new policy platform, Mr Shorten acknowledged the case for policy change after a caucus meeting in Parliament House that included a dispute over how to respond to a government bill to punish animal activists who trespass on farms. "We didn't get enough votes at the last election so some change is inevitable," Mr Shorten said when asked about the review into the Labor campaign. "If Labor didn't change some of its point of view, then that would be showing that we hadn't learned the lessons from the election." The comments followed a call from his successor, Anthony Albanese, for the party to "regroup and review" before the next election rather than stick with all the policies rejected at the ballot box in May. "If you do the same things in politics, you can expect the same outcomes," Mr Albanese told the weekly meeting of the Labor caucus. The remarks contrast with party president Wayne Swan and his call last Friday to "be proud of" the tax agenda including big revenue increases from changes to negative gearing, capital gains tax and franking credits. Mr Albanese made it clear there would be substantial change, in line with a call from Labor climate change spokesman Mark Butler on Monday for a "ruthless" review of the mistakes in the last election campaign. While Labor awaits a formal election review led by former South Australian premier Jay Weatherill, the federal caucus heard a dispute over the tactics to be taken on bills to be decided this fortnight. Former minister Kim Carr urged the party to hold out against a government bill to impose criminal sanctions on activists who incite others to trespass on farms over issues such as animal welfare. The amendments to the criminal code, known as the "agricultural protection" bill, came under fire from Senator Carr and upper house colleague Anthony Chisholm in a committee report last week where they rubbished the changes as "virtue signalling" to conservatives. In line with that report, Senator Carr told the caucus on Tuesday that Labor should not capitulate to the government and should instead insist on substantial amendments to the bill. Mr Albanese, a longtime factional rival of Senator Carr, rejected that approach. "Trade unionists are part of our constituency, vegan terrorists are not," Mr Albanese told colleagues. When a second Labor MP also raised concerns about the animal activist bill, Labor Senate leader Penny Wong backed Mr Albanese. "The argument that we are capitulating on major issues is a Greens' tactic and we must take it on," she told caucus. Labor agriculture spokesman Joel Fitzgibbon told the caucus the government bill was a "clumsy" move that overlapped with existing state laws but that intrusions by activists were a real problem for farmers, which meant Labor should not deny them support. The caucus decided to move amendments to the agriculture bill rather than block it. A similar dispute is expected at the caucus meeting next week when Labor MPs may have to decide whether to support a government bill to impose mandatory criminal penalties on people found guilty of child sex offences. Mr Albanese argued Labor was standing up for its core principles by demanding an increase in the Newstart allowance, an Indigenous "voice" to Parliament, a national integrity commission and the removal of "robo-debt" penalties on welfare recipients. He also said the party had voted the right way on income tax cuts worth $158 billion over a decade when those changes were passed in July. "There is nothing Labor about voting against putting more money in the pockets of cleaners," he said. Biiiiiiiiillllll
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Labor has officaly become the democrates, both parties are now right wing/leaning
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fauna posted:i'm having a baby anecdotal, but a friend recently had a baby, works for a health insurer and went public
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Sep 11, 2019 02:19
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You don't absolutely need private health insurance to have a baby - getting to stay in for a few extra days is nice, but if the baby shows any health issues you'll stay in with them anyway. We've had a few ambulance trips with SMG so private health has been handy there, but as the kids get older I'm going to try and talk MrsMachineGun into lowering our cover or getting out altogether.
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Sep 11, 2019 02:24
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I've had two kids through public hospitals and it was problem free both times. My wife also had a stay in hospital over post-natal issues a month and a bit after our second and found staff and programs decent. Admission was also a matter days after the referrals.
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Sep 11, 2019 02:52
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screaden posted:What's the deal with the health insurance and premiums after 30 about again? Someone posted a good summary in the last thread now I can't find it It was probably me that explained it and I can't find it either so... Lifetime Health Cover Loading is what you're asking about. It only applies to the hospital side of cover so disregard anything I'm saying if you're asking about extras only. Once you turn 31, you have until the next July 1st to take out a hospital policy. If you don't, your premium increases by 2% every year to a maximum increase of 70%. Once you take out the policy, it stops increasing but you still have to pay it for 10 years. Once that's over, it's removed completely.
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MysticalMachineGun posted:We've had a few ambulance trips with SMG so private health has been handy there, but as the kids get older I'm going to try and talk MrsMachineGun into lowering our cover or getting out altogether. I have Ambulance Victoria membership for about 50 bucks a year, is that different to what you have in your insurance?
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Sep 11, 2019 02:57
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Ambulence stuff differs quite a bit from state to state I think with some state governemtns covering all of it, others offering it for cheap fee, and some (like loving NSW) only providing free cover if you're a concession card holder etc. It's one of the obviously dumb bits of the health care system in the country, like the lack of dental coverage.
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JBP posted:Get private for having a baby that's about it Yeah don't do this. Private hospitals will basically bully women into having c sections so everything can be planned nice and neat. If anything serious actually goes wrong they're gonna send you to a public hospital anyway.
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Sep 11, 2019 03:17
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Anidav posted:Sean Leahy, the Courier Mail cartoonist made this cartoon for tomorrow's paper. Cover art for the post Event best seller! News corpse: we refuse to news.
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Sep 11, 2019 04:55
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JBP posted:Teenagers false flagging climate change Big Lie Ka-Ching! I reckon they’ll try this one on sooner or later too.
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Big Willy Style posted:Yeah don't do this. Private hospitals will basically bully women into having c sections so everything can be planned nice and neat. If anything serious actually goes wrong they're gonna send you to a public hospital anyway. Uh, getting induced maybe (and that's when they're past their due date) but I've never heard of bullying into c-sections. Time to try a different hospital!
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C-sections allow doctors to maximise their procedures per day, and they're less likely to result in the doctor being sued. So yeah, I can see unscrupulous doctors applying pressure for it, regardless of the patient. There were a number of articles about it last year for sure.
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Sep 11, 2019 05:19
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International students have been banned from contesting student elections at one of Victoria's most prestigious universities, in a move to stop a group of Chinese students seizing control of the student union. The ban, which the country's peak student body called an "attack on international students", comes as politicians and academics are increasingly concerned about Chinese Communist Party influence at Australian universities. Leaders of Monash University's Caulfield campus student body last week passed a new rule that students wishing to run at next week's election must be eligible to work 22 hours per week. Foreigners on student visas are not allowed to work more than 20 hours per week, meaning more than half the campus' students are barred from running for election. The rules were passed by Monash Student Association Caulfield's student council to thwart the election hopes of a rival group led by and consisting mainly of Chinese international students. The international student group, which is considering legal action to fight the ruling, was tipped to comfortably win the election and take over the union. International students – which make up 62 per cent of the campus population, more than double the national average – bring in a large proportion of the university's revenue. University students for A p a r t h e i d
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Sep 11, 2019 05:56
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Sep 11, 2019 05:57
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If international students make up over half the student body and win the election fair and square then what's the problem?
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Sep 11, 2019 06:09
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This article is 2.5 years old, has anything changed? https://theaimn.com/lnp-welfare-card-true-facts-exposed-corruption-disguised-philanthropy/
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MysticalMachineGun posted:If international students make up over half the student body and win the election fair and square then what's the problem? SWAMPED WITH ASIANS
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Sep 11, 2019 06:17
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I think the issue is people are concerned that a student body could in theory get taken over by CCP orgs and use the funding to student services to bankroll pro Beijing events and activities while denying funding to others.
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Sep 11, 2019 06:53
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Not a great outlook for 10-20 years time when the students involved inevitably brownnose their way into political careers and government.
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Sep 11, 2019 06:54
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I mean, the QUT liberal council back in my time banned all activities that weren't related to the LNP or Christianity so when Orientation week came around all the activities set up for undergrads were about the LNP and Jesus.
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Sebastian Left Focus bought chicken wire and hammers with MUSU funds and made the case for voluntary unionism never forget
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