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LividLiquid posted:Have Big Finish made 10th and River stories yet? It always bugs me how she asks ten if he's yet experienced things she did with Eleven, and that's never going away, but at the very least, it would settle my brain goblins a little bit if she had some other adventures with him. The Moffat novelisation of Day of the Doctor has a couple of scenes of Ten and River.
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He probably had some adventures with River between marrying Queen Elizabeth and going to the Oodsphere
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Burkion posted:You know since Doctor Who IS a contemporary, you guys get the Burk Talk too wat
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# ? Sep 8, 2019 22:00 |
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https://twitter.com/TrapOne_/status/1170694977690771457?s=20
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# ? Sep 8, 2019 22:59 |
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Looks like Martha’s coming back. https://twitter.com/bigfinish/status/1170953743019454464
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# ? Sep 9, 2019 14:57 |
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Reveal in hour; it also has something to do with Torchwood.
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# ? Sep 9, 2019 18:14 |
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https://twitter.com/bigfinish/status/1171126191736143872?s=20
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# ? Sep 9, 2019 19:21 |
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So let’s not mince words here. To say that I like UltraSeven is to say that the sun is mildly warm. While yes, accurate, you’re perhaps underplaying it too much. I wrote a three thousand word essay that was both truncated, intentionally glossing over many aspects and nuances of the program, and kept as brief as I could manage while also spending the entire time professing how much I love UltraSeven to the heavens and beyond. And believe you me, I could go on about 1967 UltraSeven, or his impact on the Ultraman franchise going forward, and his unique relationships with his teammates or even bring up the fact that he’s the first Ultraman that starred in a series to get a kid. I could gush about the Twilight Zone esque Fourth Planet episode or talk about the top fifteen best episodes or any number of fan boy things. Because I am that. I am entirely that. I love UltraSeven and I love the actors and I even love the TNT Cinrar Dub from the late 80s to mid 90s, which is how I discovered UltraSeven. It’s way more tongue and cheek but it doesn’t try to be a poo poo dub. It has perfectly good voice acting and some inventive names for the villains but it’s genuinely pretty fun and doesn’t ruin a good show like the 4Kids Tiga dub. It helps that the jokes were very much aimed at adults, including political jokes and Star Trek references and all kinds of nonsense. Great time, great time. I own no less than three hyper articulated UltraSeven action figures including a multi-hundred dollar RAH figure and by God I would own more if I could. We’re taking all the time in the world to set this up because BOY is the first 1994 special a piece of poo poo! The second one doesn’t quite rise up to Hot Mess, but isn’t in the pit of wallowing filth that the first sinks to either. Just letting ya’ll know ahead of time, this first outing for the UltraSeven Evolution series is rough. Whoo boy. So let’s cover some important background info first and foremost. UltraSeven, as covered in part one of this mess, was not originally an Ultraman and was not set in the Ultraman universe. Canonically his series didn’t even take place in the same time frame- 1966 Ultraman was set in 1990, 1967 UltraSeven was set in 1986. Return of Ultraman would twist things around and change things so that both took place in the years they were made, which is how the Main Timeline follows since. Only, UltraSeven doesn’t really care about the main timeline. Something unique to Ultraman and UltraSeven- Jack, Taro and the like, they need the main timeline to exist. Seven and Ultraman can just go off and have new adventures and not give a poo poo. Which is where we are here. From 1968 (1987 I guess?) when Seven last left in a dying, wounded state, we return to the Earth of his original timeline twenty five years later (twenty seven, but who’s keeping track) in the year 1994 (2003??? They never really clarify dates in Evolution) where a wounded and exhausted UltraSeven is attacked in space, sent hurtling back to the planet he loves. From there we meet the new Ultra Garrison, and oh boy do we have a story to tell here. So for some backstory, Furuhashi is the new Commander of the Ultra Garrison, having taken over for the original, Kiryama, some time in the past. We learn that the Ultra Garrison have been dealing with alien invaders and kaiju all these years. In his youth, Furuhashi was an energetic, strong if brash man who was friendly with Dan but more associated himself with Seven. He was a farmer’s son from the mountains and always had the closest ties to nature accordingly. He’d actually end up saving the day more than once through force of personality, and has now found himself matured over the years, nostalgic for the days gone by but dedicated more than ever to fighting the ills of the universe and safeguarding humanity. He is a staunch proponent of advancing humanity and allying with friendly alien races. As we learn he’s got his own family, raising his children with his wife and looks forward to seeing the future they leave their children. He is the one saving grace of this entire loving episode and by God you better appreciate this man. Well, we also have Anne back, married to an astronaut who is on a mission to Mars or something. Anne was Dan’s love interest in UltraSeven proper, though the two never officially got around to anything most times when Dan returns, Anne is brought up or mentioned in some way. Here, she’s found someone new, but her affection and respect for Dan remains clear- because she has named her nine year old son Dan. Wonder how her husband feels about that. She is sadly criminally underused, but shows herself to be no nonsense when dangers come knocking, still packing her laser pistol from the Ultra Garrison days and still a crack shot. The greatest shame of the specials is that she and Dan do not get to have a proper reunion, something we’ll get back to later. We also meet the other three members of the new Ultra Garrison. Kaji, Furuhashi’s effective second in command, the most spirited and driven of the team. He has a particular zeal to fighting alien invaders and tends to be partnered with Furuhashi when things go down. Next is Togo, the actual ranked second in command, a quiet person who thinks every encounter through. Finally is Risa, the sole woman of the team, an expert martial artist. Not a whole lot on the last two to be honest but Risa at least gets some cool poo poo to do. For this first episode, whose plot we now return to, we bump heads against the Pitt Aliens, old foes of the Ultra Garrison and UltraSeven. Climate change is a very real danger to the human race and will only get worse in the following decades, predicted the show from 1994, and they’re here to sabotage humanity. They want climate change to kick our teeth in and leave us vulnerable to attack later, and the way they go about this is targeting solar energy research and stopping its development. Now let’s stop for a moment and talk about this. This is not like a kids show talking down to kids about evil aliens making things hotter. This might be more fun if it was. No, this very preachy, very environmentally friendly episode is tackling this as maturely and adult-like as it can. Using real science, exploring the real technology and its real pit falls. And for that, I can at the very least commend it. It’s not scare mongering, and living in the future they warned us about, yeah, it does have a loving point. It’s just having boring rear end dry card board cut out scientists prattle on and on and on for thirty loving minutes about solar energy, with the poor Ultra Garrison members caught up in this plotline, Togo and Risa, being forced to act as cheer leaders...boy. BOY is this not good. Commendable, yes! Impressive, kind of yeah! Entertaining or good story telling? Oh Hell The gently caress No. The entire thing is just 30-40 minutes of a bunch of boring people talking about poo poo I have to deal with on a daily basis and how there’s no miracle technology to fix it. Yeah, I knew that already, thanks. There are some decent things that come from this. We learn that the aliens also use solar energy, though they use infinitely more advanced forms of it than humanity has. The Pitt Aliens were even the ones who shot down Seven over Earth using their big super duper cannon, though as we’ll learn, they weren’t the only ones fighting him. Speaking of Seven, Furuhashi gets called to a Terrestrial Defense Force base on top secret matters. Taking Kaji along, they discover the comatose UltraSeven, whom the TDF built this hanger base around in a hurry and have been exposing him to as much solar energy as they can manage, but still haven’t gotten a peep out of him. They know he’s still alive, but only barely. In one of the best moments of the two parter, Furuhashi breaks down crying at the state of his friend. In his own words, Seven is so covered in wounds, he must have spent the last twenty five years fighting for humanity out in space all alone. Furuhashi gets ahold of the special solar energy doctor who has been boring us for the last 30 minutes, who has to admit that helping Seven is entirely out of their ability to handle. UltraSeven absorbs deep space cosmic radiation and solar energy directly from the sun. They couldn’t begin to get enough energy to help him if they tried for months. Months that they don’t have. Skimming over some boring poo poo here, long story short, the Pitt Aliens discover where Seven is being kept by the humans and where the last of the solar energy dishes is. They send Eleking to wipe out the solar energy dish and use their super duper mega cannon to nuke UltraSeven from space. Which proves to be a mistake. All the cannon manages to do, after it blows everything to hell, is wake UltraSeven up. He takes a quick jaunt to the sun, soaks up some energy, comes back and kicks the poo poo out of Eleking. He then goes back, destroys the Cannon and kills the Pitt Aliens and their ship. Also saves Anne’s son who was held captive for stupid reasons. Anyways UltraSeven is back on Earth! Also, Dan Moroboshi NEVER APPEARS IN THIS ENTIRE EPISODE. Fifty loving minutes, and UltraSeven is in about five of them total and only ever transformed. What the poo poo kind of return is that? But whatever. The Furuhashi and UltraSeven stuff was really good, Anne was nice to see, and the rest was...boring. Real, real, real boring. Also the effects kind of look worse than ever, because we’re at the start of early 90s digital effects and Tsuburaya Productions isn’t quite sure how to handle it yet. It’ll get better by the time ‘99 rolls around but boy is it rough here. It’s neat in how it continues the narrative of the 1967 original, and it is vital to suffer through but, maybe, unless you really want to learn about solar technology circa 1994 and the depressing realities of climate change going forward, you might want to fast forward until Furuhashi is on screen. Also Dan and Furuhashi never meet in this one! For shame. Anne and Seven never meet at ALL which is a true crime. But it’d probably be weird, she already named her kid after him. So now we come to the second episode of this two part TV movie bananza. Is it any better? Yes. Is it an out and out apology for the last one? Oh my no. So to get the flaws of this out of the way, instead of a lot of boring poo poo going on, instead the pacing is just wrong. This would be a great 30 minute, 40 minute special. But they don’t have the plot to keep it going that long, and it’s over 50. So there’s a lot of faffing around, a lot of slow stuff and a lot of beating around the bush. The core story isn’t even that great. Scientist is bitter at humanity for how they’ve left the world, conspires with aliens to create a perfect underground city, is aghast that the aliens plan to let humanity die and use the city for themselves. What helps salvage this is that we get Dan Morobshi back for real and we get some fun stuff. We open with UltraSeven fighting a Metron alien on some alien world. Seven gets the better of the Metron, from the same species as an earlier invader in fact one of the most famous in the franchise. The Metron declares that the Earth will fall into their hands before dying. On earth his children, a son and daughter, are getting that under ground city thing going. They don’t have any plans to deal with humanity, just planning on letting them wipe themselves out. Which, you know, fair. We get to see Dan investigate them as a person, avoiding Furuhashi for...some reason...and teaming up with the Ultra Garrison to take them down at the end. Risa finally gets her moment where she takes on the son in a hand to hand fight and holds her own. One of the two kids gets killed and the other grows big and summons a dinosaur monster, Seven transforms and we get the whole shebang. Metron isn’t the strongest alien around so Seven’s able to kill them pretty easily, some tricks aside. And then that underground city, that they were fighting over, self destructs. The Ultra Garrison are out of the danger zone, but Seven? He’s point blank. At ground zero of an entire city going boom, everyone watching is convinced that Seven must have died. Everyone but Furuhashi. Though distraught at watching his friend get caught up in yet another seemingly fatal event, he knows Dan survived. He knows that they’ll meet again. And yeah, that’s UltraSeven’s fate. He vanishes in the midst of a city exploding all around him, no trace left behind. UltraSeven is destined to live an unhappy life, sacrificing everything for those he loves. His fate would be left up in the air, unknown to the viewers at home, for another four years until the 1998 series picked up with Lost Memories. The 1998 series is when the quality starts to turn around big time. Not quite reaching the heights of the old series, it’s still something to look forward to. Especially because that will introduce us to the path to the 1999 series, and all the greatness that awaits. The 1994 specials should only be watched if you really, really want to see all of UltraSeven, because the Metron episode sounds far more exciting than it is. It’s nice having the original actors back, it’s great to see Dan again, but they just drag so much. They’re written in such a weird way as well, uniquely adult about subjects you’d normally only see education shows tackle. They’re very flat and honest about the draw backs and limitations of solar energy and alternative fuel sources. Part of what kills the 94 specials is that there’s an edge missing. Humanity is not brought to judgement for the crimes it has committed, even against its own environment and people. Every human character we meet is positive and friendly and working towards a brighter tomorrow, even the scientist who threw his lot in with the Metrons before realizing their true intentions. It’s all too nice and clean for UltraSeven. Not at all in keeping with the series that would portray humanity as being in the wrong almost as much as the aliens they fought. The 1998 series will see this start to turn around, which we’ll talk about next time. See you soon.
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I don't mean to be a dick, but why are you posting about this in the Doctor Who thread? Like I don't grasp what the significance is? What is the connection?
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# ? Sep 10, 2019 02:52 |
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Burkion posted:So let’s not mince words here. Oh here we go, another voyage 'round the English language!
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# ? Sep 10, 2019 02:56 |
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Jerusalem posted:I don't mean to be a dick, but why are you posting about this in the Doctor Who thread? Like I don't grasp what the significance is? What is the connection? Like I mentioned in the first part, UltraSeven and Doctor Who are contemporaries- both were low budget 1960s sci-fi series, brought back in the 90s and later the 2000s. If you guys would rather I not continue covering it here, that's fine.
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# ? Sep 10, 2019 03:07 |
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I'm not reading it (nothing against it, it's just not my bag) but if others find it interesting I can easily just scroll by it vv
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# ? Sep 10, 2019 03:14 |
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Jerusalem posted:I'm not reading it (nothing against it, it's just not my bag) but if others find it interesting I can easily just scroll by it vv I will say, classic UltraSeven has more in common with Doctor Who than you might expect.
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# ? Sep 10, 2019 03:21 |
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I was about to say...maybe Burk's account was compromised.....but then I realized that there's literally nobody else on the planet capable of that level of Ultraman Effort Post
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# ? Sep 10, 2019 04:21 |
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They've also been posting it in numerous different threads.
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# ? Sep 10, 2019 04:31 |
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Petition started to get Toxxupation or whatever he's called now to start watching Ultraman.
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# ? Sep 10, 2019 04:39 |
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Friends, let me make the first in a nine-volume series of posts about The Time Tunnel.
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# ? Sep 10, 2019 04:44 |
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Sydney Bottocks posted:Friends, let me make the first in a nine-volume series of posts about The Time Tunnel. The loving civil war episode is some kind of art that I cannot comprehend
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# ? Sep 10, 2019 04:49 |
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We've been using the wrong titles for decades, apparently https://twitter.com/jonnymorris1973/status/1171357623326822400
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# ? Sep 10, 2019 16:56 |
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Oh christ, not this ancient and highly flammable chestnut again. And now it's coming to Twitter, of all places. I can't stand it, I'm going off with an unearthly child to join the Tribe of Gum and forget all about it, because there's no TV in 100,000 BC. Seriously, by far the best thing about NewWho is that people now have other things to argue about besides working titles, UNIT dating, and the precise meaning of "Doctor Who is required".
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# ? Sep 10, 2019 17:04 |
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Burkion posted:Like I mentioned in the first part, UltraSeven and Doctor Who are contemporaries- both were low budget 1960s sci-fi series, brought back in the 90s and later the 2000s. I dont want to be a dick, but... When the only response to the first wall of Ultraman text was one person saying "wut" I feel like that answers the question. Its cool you find it interesting, but it really has gently caress all to do with Who, and there has to be a more relevant place to talk about it where people who are interested in it would see it. If you wanted to do a TLDR where you highlight anything you think are interesting similarities between the shows, go for it, but I dont know that a potted history of Ultraman in X parts really belongs in this thread. I'll be honest when I saw the first post I did kind of think "Wrong thread, compromised account or manic episode?". I mean, if everyone else is actually super into it then I can just scroll past, but I would be kind of surprised.
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Burkion posted:You know since Doctor Who IS a contemporary, you guys get the Burk Talk too Burkion posted:So lets not mince words here. To say that I like UltraSeven is to say that the sun is mildly warm. While yes, accurate, youre perhaps underplaying it too much. I wrote a three thousand word essay that was both truncated, intentionally glossing over many aspects and nuances of the program, and kept as brief as I could manage while also spending the entire time professing how much I love UltraSeven to the heavens and beyond. And believe you me, I could go on about 1967 UltraSeven, or his impact on the Ultraman franchise going forward, and his unique relationships with his teammates or even bring up the fact that hes the first Ultraman that starred in a series to get a kid. I could gush about the Twilight Zone esque Fourth Planet episode or talk about the top fifteen best episodes or any number of fan boy things. I'm sorry I stopped reading this about a paragraph in. Maybe if you want to proselytise for a tv show, a few sentences or a brief clip would be more effective? Sydney Bottocks posted:Friends, let me make the first in a nine-volume series of posts about The Time Tunnel. Got to admit I would read this with great interest.
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# ? Sep 10, 2019 18:09 |
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Ah, reports! Will there be charts? And diagrams? And lots of complicated sums, in triplicate?
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# ? Sep 10, 2019 18:16 |
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Lol “Poseable”
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# ? Sep 11, 2019 07:44 |
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I'm pretty sure that every branch of Woolies still had these in when they shut down in 2008. God, imagine the pitch meeting for this thing.
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# ? Sep 11, 2019 08:15 |
Big Finish's Red Planets - 'In 2017 liberal democracy and capitalism are collapsing, ecological catastrophe is continuing apace, and far right authoritarianism is on the rise, but what if instead of this "petty politicking" [actual quote] instead there was communism '
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# ? Sep 11, 2019 13:10 |
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Barry Foster posted:Big Finish's Red Planets - 'In 2017 liberal democracy and capitalism are collapsing, ecological catastrophe is continuing apace, and far right authoritarianism is on the rise, but what if instead of this "petty politicking" [actual quote] instead there was communism ' Sylvester is terrified by your suggestion.
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# ? Sep 11, 2019 13:20 |
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The Rrrrrrrrrrrred Menace!
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# ? Sep 11, 2019 13:28 |
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The_Doctor posted:The Rrrrrrrrrrrred Menace! MY WIFE and I watched The Curse of Fenric so I could introduce her to Seven and I kept hyping rrrrrrrrrrrrrolling his rrrrrrrrrrrrs which he does surprisingly little of in this serial he got to RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRUSSIAN and she was like oh I get it now Chokes McGee fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Sep 11, 2019 |
# ? Sep 11, 2019 19:04 |
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The Happiness Patrol and Paradise Towers were a lot of fun
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# ? Sep 11, 2019 19:07 |
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Most of Seven's run is fun, once you're past his debut. I can barely make it through Time and the Rani.
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# ? Sep 11, 2019 19:26 |
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Time and the Rani is probably the low point of 7’s run.
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# ? Sep 11, 2019 19:28 |
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Definitely. McCoy gets better every series until you get peak Doctor Who in series 26.
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# ? Sep 11, 2019 19:33 |
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Time And The Rani isn't good but I like it. It's just so much 80's at once that it wraps around to be a treat. Just, Keff McCulloch blasting the hell out of every scene with maximum synthesizer.
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# ? Sep 11, 2019 19:49 |
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FreezingInferno posted:Time And The Rani isn't good but I like it. It's just so much 80's at once that it wraps around to be a treat. Just, Keff McCulloch blasting the hell out of every scene with maximum synthesizer. This is how I feel about it too.
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# ? Sep 11, 2019 19:51 |
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They got their money's worth with the music and it just works stupidly well as Seven and Ace run around the countryside
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# ? Sep 11, 2019 19:51 |
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I'm marveling at the opening shot of The Mysterious Planet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D7y7mSaQxo
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# ? Sep 11, 2019 20:33 |
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York_M_Chan posted:I'm marveling at the opening shot of The Mysterious Planet That’s where all the budget went. Edit: https://twitter.com/claytonhickman/status/1171551130108813312 The_Doctor fucked around with this message at 21:28 on Sep 11, 2019 |
# ? Sep 11, 2019 20:38 |
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I love how in Trial Lynda Bellingham takes no poo poo from literally anyone.
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# ? Sep 11, 2019 22:50 |
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York_M_Chan posted:I'm marveling at the opening shot of The Mysterious Planet
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