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MisterBibs posted:I hate military time.
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Sep 11, 2019 20:58
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Tiggum posted:I hate that Americans call it "military time". And say "17-hundred hours" instead of 5pm. "17:00" is pronounced "5pm" just like "cough" is pronounced "cof". Technically military time is a separate thing that came about for the same reason things like the NATO phonetic alphabet did. It facilitates communication, potentially over shoddy radio between people who might speak different languages. Most americans do not know that ofc. But 2109Z (pronounced “two one zero nine zulu”) is definitely not the same time notation as 21:09 UTC (pronounced “about ten after nine in England”) Edgar Allen Ho has a new favorite as of 00:54 on Sep 12, 2019 |
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Sep 11, 2019 21:07
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MisterBibs posted:I hate military time. Everyone is all "oh it's totally simple, just take this number and add twelve to it" or whatever, which is true, but I never got the brain memory (is there a version of muscle memory for thoughts?) to do it on-the-fly. Which, you know, I can do with real time. The one that is used basically everywhere. Genuinely curious: when is this a problem? Everything I own that can display the time has the option to use a 12 or 24 hour display.
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Sep 11, 2019 21:52
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I have all of my clocks set to 24 hour display because 2100 is a lot easier to parse than 9:00 when I first wake up and I'm so disoriented I don't know if it means AM or PM.
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Sep 11, 2019 23:08
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AM PM is the clock version of imperial units of measurements. Needlessly complicated and antiquated and people (Americans) are only more comfortable with it because they're used to it. The military uses metric and 24-hour time because they're objectively better.
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Sep 12, 2019 00:01
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Where did the "two twelves" covention start, anyhow? Was it just easier to rig up a mechanical timepiece with half the numbers?
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Sep 12, 2019 01:13
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Brawnfire posted:Where did the "two twelves" covention start, anyhow? Was it just easier to rig up a mechanical timepiece with half the numbers? Sundials and water clocks. Ancient egyptians and romans and poo poo used the 12-hour system. A sundial in particular can't exactly be made for a full day's worth of timekeeping, and you can't calibrate a water clock without a decent sundial. Americans and to a lesser extent other anglos love that clock for the same reason we love all other archaic measurements: god drat foreigners telling me what to do Edgar Allen Ho has a new favorite as of 01:35 on Sep 12, 2019 |
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Sep 12, 2019 01:18
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Sundials and water clocks. Ancient egyptians and romans and poo poo used the 12-hour system. Ahhh sundials, forgot that poo poo.
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Sep 12, 2019 01:21
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Why don't the guide things offered by cable services tell you in the guide that you aren't subscribed to that channel? I had a reminder set for Tin Cup since I got home, it was going to be my evening, but then I turn to it and "you are not subscribed to the golf channel". Night ruined because they are too lazy to make the guide useful.
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Sep 12, 2019 01:31
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Plenty of them have settings to only show channels you're subscribed to. No idea what you're on, but I know my DirecTV box only shows channels I can watch. I think most of the streaming cable options only actually show channels you can actually watch.
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Sep 12, 2019 02:00
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Inspector 34 posted:Plenty of them have settings to only show channels you're subscribed to. No idea what you're on, but I know my DirecTV box only shows channels I can watch. I think most of the streaming cable options only actually show channels you can actually watch. Verizon Fios. I haven't found a setting that will do this, but I admittedly haven't looked too hard.
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Sep 12, 2019 02:01
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AT&T Uverse makes you go through each and every channel to hide them manually if you're not subscribed or just plain don't ever want to see them (Fox News, I'm looking at you). It's a giant pain, and they always seem to be adding more and more insipid infomercial channels till I give up. One downside to hiding unsubscribed channels is that they occasionally activate for free weekends and I never notice. 
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Sep 12, 2019 02:06
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Sunswipe posted:Genuinely curious: when is this a problem? Everything I own that can display the time has the option to use a 12 or 24 hour display. I started a job at a place that uses it.  If I could manually change the things myself, I'd do it.I'm reminded of the Dave Barry line about Americans and the metric system (paraphrased): the government decided to try and get people to understand the metric system by adding speed limit signs in kilometers. Americans responded by shooting them down. edit: Like I said, I understand that it has benefits, but I'm too used to the right way of doing things, and man, I just hate having to go "okay, what does that mean" when it comes up. MisterBibs has a new favorite as of 05:22 on Sep 12, 2019 |
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Sep 12, 2019 05:15
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As is our God given right under the 2nd amendment!
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Sep 12, 2019 05:22
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sorry 24-hour clocks are objectively better. learn to adapt
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Sep 12, 2019 05:24
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Overwatch Porn posted:learn to adapt Mr Barry was joking about the shooting-road-signs things, but he wasn't joking about the fact that there were attempts to use alternative systems (metric, what have you), and it didn't work very well. I think it was the 70s, but I'm not sure. The end result was Americans collectively doing the needful and asking why there should be the change, and... well, it's nearly 2020 and almost everything we buy has Imperial Units (Metric Unit) at the bottom. MisterBibs has a new favorite as of 05:49 on Sep 12, 2019 |
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Sep 12, 2019 05:47
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MisterBibs posted:Mr Barry was joking about the shooting-road-signs things, but he wasn't joking about the fact that there were attempts to use alternative systems (metric, what have you), and it didn't work very well. I think it was the 70s, but I'm not sure. The end result was Americans collectively doing the needful and asking why there should be the change, and... well, it's nearly 2020 and almost everything we buy has Imperial Units (Metric Unit) at the bottom. I can't think of a single thing I've bought in the US that has that notation. Full of dumb poo poo like "coke sold in litres but milk in gallons" yes. Serving sizes listed as "one popsicle (100 grams)" yes. Your new coffee machine has a tag that lists it's weight in both pounds and grams, maybe. But literally nothing you would ever care about is in baffling double units, and literally no one you will ever talk to is confused by the miracle of base ten but then also we use this other thing too. and everyone in the US who will ever talk to a non-american knows metric. Edgar Allen Ho has a new favorite as of 06:10 on Sep 12, 2019 |
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Sep 12, 2019 06:06
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I'm in the US and unless we're talking about completely different things, every product I've purchased in my lifetime has been labeled that way.
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Sep 12, 2019 06:42
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Overwatch Porn posted:sorry 24-hour clocks are objectively better. learn to adapt Are analogue 24 hour clocks common?
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Sep 12, 2019 06:53
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Are analogue 24 hour clocks common? do they need to be? 
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Sep 12, 2019 06:58
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Overwatch Porn posted:do they need to be? I've never really lived anywhere where 24 hour time was common outside of specific applications, so I wasn't sure whether the clocks just had two sets of digits or some other approach.
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Sep 12, 2019 07:04
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A FUCKIN CANARY!! posted:I'm in the US and unless we're talking about completely different things, every product I've purchased in my lifetime has been labeled that way. Oh yeah I guess if you look at the label no living human has ever cared about or looked at, we have that living monument to our boneheadedness. I actually think we might be at the point where more of us know what 305 grams are. I at least couldn’t even give you an estimate of a an ounce. Edgar Allen Ho has a new favorite as of 07:48 on Sep 12, 2019 |
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Sep 12, 2019 07:44
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I at least couldn’t even give you an estimate of a fluid ounce. Your mom certainly can.
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Sep 12, 2019 07:48
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Oh yeah I guess if you look at the label no living human has ever cared about or looked at, we have that living monument to our boneheadedness. I look at that part of the label every time I compare prices on things because that's how it's done and now I'm even less sure of what you mean.
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Sep 12, 2019 08:41
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Oh yeah I guess if you look at the label no living human has ever cared about or looked at, we have that living monument to our boneheadedness. I look at those all the time. How do you compare products at the supermarket if you don't check how big the different packages are? Also, they're on the front, so you see them even if you aren't trying to.
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Sep 12, 2019 08:44
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Are analogue 24 hour clocks common? I used to work with a Basque dude that had an analog 24 hour watch. He did everything in 24 hour time. He'd always switch the computers to 24 hr. He couldn't read time on a regular 12 hr clock.
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Sep 12, 2019 11:06
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This thread cultivates some exceedingly bizarre alternate universes
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Sep 12, 2019 13:09
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DO you know why we haven't switched to metric? It's boomers
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Sep 12, 2019 13:19
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“They do it that way, we do it this way. We’re American best place on earth why should we change for anyone? They should change, we’re clearly doing it the right and best way. Of course we’re not wrong” Can be applied to most social/economical/ things that America does vs. the rest of the world. Whether that’s a good thing or not may vary. Its mostly not
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Sep 12, 2019 13:24
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Iron Crowned posted:DO you know why we haven't switched to metric? It's boomers I recall my mother would constantly get furious at metric units, saying that she "understood the feel of an inch" but not a centimeter. The idea that being raised with something makes it "reality" just doesn't seem to hit home. Must be the protective lead shielding in the brain. Although my father does really complex CNC machining, woodworking, and plastics injection molding as a lifelong career, so he just sadly shakes his head when she says this stuff. Edit: My mother's familiarity with the feel of an inch was not a burn on my dad. That's just a bonus. Brawnfire has a new favorite as of 13:54 on Sep 12, 2019 |
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Sep 12, 2019 13:28
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I do sort of have some sympathy here. I grew up in the UK where we use a weird mix of metric and imperial so I’m comfortable with both. However that said I now live in Australia which is completely metric and the one thing I can’t wrap my head around is measuring my weight in kilos. I’ve always used stones and pounds. I can intuitively understand where my weight falls on the scale of underweight to obese using stones but I don’t have any bearings on where my weight in kilos falls on that scale. It’s taken some years to adjust, but adjust you do. Still, America should join the rest of the world in using metric , make life easier for everyone so we can stop having to translate everything for you. That’s a pet peeve, having to look up wtf a Celsius temp is in Fahrenheit just so the whole room can join in the weather talk.
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Sep 12, 2019 13:52
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Helith posted:Still, America should join the rest of the world in using metric , make life easier for everyone so we can stop having to translate everything for you. That’s a pet peeve, having to look up wtf a Celsius temp is in Fahrenheit just so the whole room can join in the weather talk. Actually, you should abandon the system you've used your entire life to make things easier for me.
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Sep 12, 2019 14:04
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A FUCKIN CANARY!! posted:I look at that part of the label every time I compare prices on things because that's how it's done and now I'm even less sure of what you mean. If it helps, the day after I'm also unsure about what I meant. Helith posted:I do sort of have some sympathy here. I grew up in the UK where we use a weird mix of metric and imperial so I’m comfortable with both. *builds tunnel to drive to Europe and allow europeans to drive in* *has cars from opposite side of road, posts speed limit in miles per hour* *something something brexit* Edgar Allen Ho has a new favorite as of 14:17 on Sep 12, 2019 |
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Sep 12, 2019 14:14
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:If it helps, the day after I'm also unsure about what I meant. It's that experimental new drug you've been trying, Adamant. It always feels like this the next day.
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Sep 12, 2019 14:16
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:*builds tunnel to drive to Europe and allow europeans to drive in* Hey I never claimed that the UK was particularly sensible about this poo poo either, they kind of went most of the way way with metric but clung onto miles and stones because why the gently caress not. At least our money system no longer uses base 12 and weird names for coins because that was pretty wild and incomprehensible.
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Sep 12, 2019 14:29
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Wonder why whichever megacorps producing street signs haven't lobbied the government to switch to metric. Seems like it'd be a pretty lucrative.
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Sep 12, 2019 20:14
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Why does everyone feel the need to stop short of the car in front of them at a red light and then inch forward over the next 30-45 seconds? Pick a distance you feel OK at and stop there and don't move again until traffic is flowing. also left turn only lanes are not passing lanes and I will block you getting back in if you try to pull that in heavy traffic. You are causing even more traffic issues just to get a couple more car lengths ahead. Stay in your lane and crawl forward at 5 mph like the rest of us.
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Sep 13, 2019 00:34
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The UK is the worst. The sooner they collapse back into the Heptarchy the better. Tiocfaidh ár lá and all that.
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Sep 13, 2019 00:47
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yeah I eat rear end posted:Why does everyone feel the need to stop short of the car in front of them at a red light and then inch forward over the next 30-45 seconds? Pick a distance you feel OK at and stop there and don't move again until traffic is flowing. I hate gap-closers because I know full well that those gaps would get everything going again real quick when the light changes! Instead now it's a taffy pull.
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yeah I eat rear end posted:also left turn only lanes are not passing lanes and I will block you getting back in if you try to pull that in heavy traffic. You are causing even more traffic issues just to get a couple more car lengths ahead. Stay in your lane and crawl forward at 5 mph like the rest of us.
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Sep 13, 2019 01:30
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