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josh04 posted:p. funny to see these two posts right next to each other. no see, this tangled mess of partial compatibility layers and alternative APIs is a terrible trash fire to be avoided, but this other mess of partial compatibility layers and alternative APIs is perfectly fine and you will have no issues. or maybe video games are a little less important than your job
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:or maybe video games are a little less important than your job unlikely
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Tankakern posted:screaming into the void again, but if you have amd and a need for cuda, you should check if rocm suits your needs. khronos are also trying to create a more open compute thingie to supplant opencl with called sycl ROCM is not a replacement for CUDA, it's more like a driver and runtime API (but not kernel driver except in some cases!) that includes an OpenCL implementation. I think there was something called HCC, which was a portable CUDA-like. There's also HIP, which is a CUDA-to-HCC translator (although I heard that HCC by itself was deprecated so who knows). Finally (not really, there's always more), there is SYCL, which is somewhat like CUDA but for OpenCL, but which I think has only been implemented fully by Codeplay. It's a super confusing mess of acronyms. AMD isn't doing itself any favours here, and seems to be spreading its already scarce resources super thin. Exercise for the reader: where does the HSA Runtime fit in? I did a literal PhD on GPU computing and I can't figure out wtf is going on with AMD.
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yeah thanks for filling in my point was that you should at least check if it could suit your needs, because i'm guessing things will only get better with the new khronos stuff coming
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Sapozhnik posted:*as long as it does not use denuvo or other drm why would one pay cash to play a denuvo game lol. pirate that poo poo when the crack is out also, proton has come real far, i'm looking forward to a year or two from now when protondb is 90% gold+ category lol
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Athas posted:ROCM is not a replacement for CUDA, it's more like a driver and runtime API (but not kernel driver except in some cases!) that includes an OpenCL implementation. I think there was something called HCC, which was a portable CUDA-like. There's also HIP, which is a CUDA-to-HCC translator (although I heard that HCC by itself was deprecated so who knows). Finally (not really, there's always more), there is SYCL, which is somewhat like CUDA but for OpenCL, but which I think has only been implemented fully by Codeplay. It's a super confusing mess of acronyms. AMD isn't doing itself any favours here, and seems to be spreading its already scarce resources super thin. This was literally what my masters project was too, well making a PTX-to-SPIR recompilation driver shim anyway. It does sortof work since they're very similar but it's a bit inefficient b/c of some architectural differences, though I'm sure a serious research team managed/could manage to do it quite well. I also got a recommendation from my supervisor to apply to codeplay seeing as I'm in the UK, though never did in the end. e: the thing is, at the end of the day you can just buy nvidia and save yourself the headache Private Speech fucked around with this message at 10:49 on Sep 9, 2019 |
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sycl is getting very interesting though. it is more general still than cuda, which should mean that stuff done in cuda is likely to be relatively easy to get going on sycl, but otoh i assume it'll also mean that there'll be more compiler magic which might work on one target and gently caress up on another. most importantly though sycl gets a lot of tools and debuggers (for code, rather than device/performance stuff) for free by being so close to c++. it's been kicking around without any real impact for some time, but intel committed to opening their sycl stuff and upstream things into clang and so on earlier this year, so it might yet become the legit cuda alternative. Cybernetic Vermin fucked around with this message at 11:17 on Sep 9, 2019 |
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:or maybe video games are a little less important than your job i get paid to interact with desktop linux at work, at home i'd be volunteering
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:or maybe video games are a little less important than your job Bullshit
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Tankakern posted:yeah thanks for filling in on the other hand when was the last time things only got better with the new khronos stuff?
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the funny tech poo poo u just remembered thread is that way —->
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Wayland works great, it turns out.
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i like linux, op but NOT as a desktop os
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Who even owns a desktop anymore Install fedora on a laptop, it's good.
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fwiw the general recommendation among folks that do pci passthrough is to use nvidia cards. if you use amd as the passthrough card you don’t have to add the config to trick nvidia, which they could trivially defeat and is an ever present threat, but you instead have to deal with the “reset” bug because AMD half assed the firmware. the gist is that rebooting the VM will cause the card to hard lockup, and you got to reboot the entire host before you can do passthrough again. some guy is working on fixing it but he’s not getting a ton of help from AMD, and it’s slow going. edit: if you want to track the guys work: https://www.patreon.com/posts/29878832 freeasinbeer fucked around with this message at 14:34 on Sep 11, 2019 |
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TimWinter posted:Who even owns a desktop anymore me TimWinter posted:
nah, my laptop already runs a tolerable unix
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Soricidus posted:me well look at the Tadpole owner over here
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freeasinbeer posted:fwiw the general recommendation among folks that do pci passthrough is to use nvidia cards. I've been playing passthrough for a few days now and its a leaning experience I had to install the acs patch to unfuck my iommu groups though I bought a cheap RX 570 just to passthrough for osx and it working fine since its pre vega the latest hurdle is my ssd with a silicon motion sm2262 has buggy firmware and will not pass through even with the workarounds I found, my samsung passes through fine the onboard intel 630 video will not passthough either so you'll lose quick sync for your vms besides those 2 devices i'm surprised how well things work, you can swap the onboard usb controller back and forth without restarting which was a nice surprise
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Perplx posted:I've been playing passthrough for a few days now and its a leaning experience wow cool all this so you could avoid installing steam and clicking "play"
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i tried the whole Linux gaming thing and found photon to be buggy and irritating to deal with. if you value your time at $100 or more, just buy a windows license and never worry about it again
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i didn't do it for windows, that was just a bonus project I did it to run osx and do compute on my nvidia card at the same time, running osx on bare metal means I can't use my nvidia card at all, which is true even for real macs its the only way to get simultaneous full speed xcode and a full speed nvidia gpu without buying 2 computers, and all it cost was one extra video card Perplx fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Sep 11, 2019 |
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freeasinbeer posted:some guy is working on fixing it but he’s not getting a ton of help from AMD, and it’s slow going. Wait a minute. Patreon? He's not exactly incentivized to get the job done quickly here...
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Helicity posted:i tried the whole Linux gaming thing and found photon to be buggy and irritating to deal with. if you value your time at $100 or more, just buy a windows license and never worry about it again you do you i have used unix desktops for many, many years for work reasons and i want the same setup at home as at work i also want to play video games, but not badly enough to install windows and futz with windows-related items
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Perplx posted:i didn't do it for windows, that was just a bonus project so you spent a bunch of time and energy in order to run a pirate copy of osx?
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*pirates a subatomic particle computer*
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:so you spent a bunch of time and energy in order to run a pirate copy of osx? basically, i have real macs they are just slow
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Perplx posted:basically, i have real macs they are just slow so your justification for pirating osx is that it costs too much to get a decent mac real cute there, guy don't steal mac os x.kext posted:Your karma check for today:
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real macs suck too just pirate whatever who gives a flying poo poo
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Apple is like the most profitable company on Earth, people should feel 0% guilt for pirating their crap OS (but they should feel stupid for other reasons).
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Sniep posted:real macs suck too just pirate whatever who gives a flying poo poo Athas posted:Apple is like the most profitable company on Earth, people should feel 0% guilt for pirating their crap OS (but they should feel stupid for other reasons). product sucks / company rich ergo breaking the law and not paying for software is ok? really, this, in the linux desktop thread? pro tip: you can do useful things on your computer without stealing someone else's work
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like, what do you do for a living that y'all are so casual about stealing copyrighted software
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are you seriously pearl clutching about piracy in tyool 2019
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well, i dont steal any softare. i am 100% fully legal in my poo poo, including media but that doesnt mean im gonna tell anyone else to
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Athas posted:are you seriously pearl clutching about piracy in tyool 2019 yes yes i am this is precisely the thread in which piracy should be least accepted, in a subforum dedicated to computer touchers, who often derive their incomes from software licensing admitting to pirating osx out of poverty is the dumbest thing i can imagine in the linux desktop thread it's not just irrelevant, it is like, anti-content that destroys the discussion yes herp derp let me pirate proprietary unix to avoid... using desktop linux?
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Sniep posted:well, i dont steal any softare. i am 100% fully legal in my poo poo, including media so if folks pirate your employer's products, that's good and cool with you?
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woah i'm agreeing with nbsd, what's happening
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Tankakern posted:woah i'm agreeing with nbsd, what's happening i am often right about stuff, but i am such an angry and generally disagreeable curmudgeon people don't enjoy agreeing with me even when i am correct tl;dr you are not the first person to be ashamed of agreeing with me
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:pro tip: you can do useful things on your computer without stealing someone else's work those os x devs at apple are gonna get paid the same amount regardless. nobody's going hungry. apple's not going to lower the price on other products because a few thousand people decide to pay for a copy of mac os x. the only benefits to doing so are that some stockholders get a few extra pennies, and participating in a collective belief in the rule of law. except, oops, the rule of law is already dead in america. there's no accountability. no one trusts that the law is or will be applied evenly or fairly. why is the Apple Computer corporation deserving of our respect?
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