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zoux posted:Crystal I've never met anyone like you before, will you make me the happiest automated doomsday device in the world
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HEY GUNS posted:is that Stephan's book (the yellow one) or is there another one out there That's the one. I don't think it's had a lot of attention beyond that.
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Schadenboner posted:That's the one. I don't think it's had a lot of attention beyond that.
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Platystemon posted:Remember when there was nothing wrong with gleefully burning an effigy of Grenfell Tower in the back garden but sharing the video was a crime? In the UK putting up a sign in your window that says "Religions are fairy stories for adults" gets you threatened with legal punishment by the cops: https://www.bostonstandard.co.uk/ne...oster-1-3962839 quote:Officers say that they have not told John Richards he is committing an offence for displaying the poster but said he could only face arrest if he causes offence and refuses to take the poster down when they ask. "May cause another person distress" is something that is all-encompassing, of course, which is the point. This isn't a law used to defend those that lack power, those beyond the pale of mainstream thought, it's another tool to be used as a club against them. Like this woman who tweeted "#killallwhitemen" https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...n-a6683241.html Or this Muslim student who was literally arrested, charged and convicted for this:  Or the 15-year-old kid who was prosecuted for calling Scientology a cult. The UK arrests thousands of people per year for online comments that are in many cases just trolling and offensive jokes. In addition, the UK is a well-known forum for libel-shopping, since it's libel laws are so plaintiff-friendly they make its courts the forum of choice for thin-skinned people to shut down critics. That's why David Irving sued Deborah Lipstadt for libel there. Lipstadt at least won that case, others have not been so lucky: https://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/15/opinion/15mon4.html The UK's speech protections are not really close to the USA's.
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Phanatic posted:In addition, the UK is a well-known forum for libel-shopping, since it's libel laws are so plaintiff-friendly they make its courts the forum of choice for thin-skinned people to shut down critics. That's why David Irving sued Deborah Lipstadt for libel there. Lipstadt at least won that case, others have not been so lucky: How's life back in 2012, enjoying the London Olympics I hope? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation_Act_2013
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FastestGunAlive posted:Two years ago there were two staff sergeants kicked out for participating in alt right rallies and a private who was kicked out for belonging to a neo Nazi militia. He, a water purification specialist with 0 years experience in the military, offered to train the group in military tactics. Schadenboner posted:E: also, everyone should watch White Sun of the Desert not for any particular political reason (or even it being particularly related to the above, it's just a really fun movie?)
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feedmegin posted:How's life back in 2012, enjoying the London Olympics I hope? Fair enough, that's a solidly positive change.
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Schadenboner posted:I'm reading a book about Russian Fashies (cancerous outgrowths of the Whites in the 1930s, not the bunch of ethnonationalist fuckos running it these days) and what's got me scratching the 'ol noodle is wether a Japanese attack at the hight of the purges could have successfully taken Vladivostok and maybe pushed to, like Lake Baikal? By the height of the purges, 80% of the Japanese army is tied down in the war in China and US-European sanctions are taking one hell of a toll. The Japanese considered such an attack, and they did not like their odds: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kantokuen#Background
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PittTheElder posted:By the height of the purges, 80% of the Japanese army is tied down in the war in China and US-European sanctions are taking one hell of a toll. The Japanese considered such an attack, and they did not like their odds: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kantokuen#Background
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HEY GUNS posted:What would you have charged that guy with?
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HEY GUNS posted:this reminds me of "why didn't the Ottomans take advantage of the Thirty Years War to just steamroll northwest" and the answer is the same--they had their own problems at the time. Was it just locking up potential sultans in the dark house I know as you study more you get a very real sense of what you don't know, but I feel like the very end of the Ottomans, making furniture related jokes,, and "they be these guys who had their poo poo together for a long time" I feel like I know nothing about them
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Nebakenezzer posted:Was it just locking up potential sultans in the dark house At the first half of the 17th century, the Ottomans were dealing with wars against the Persians, popular unrest, the threat of civil war, and a Sultan who was kind of....not entirely mentally there.
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Epicurius posted:At the first half of the 21st century, the Americans were dealing with wars against the Persians, popular unrest, the threat of civil war, and a Sultan who was kind of....not entirely mentally there. 
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FrangibleCover posted:- North Africa was logistics limited for the Axis, not manpower limited. They can put 5 million more men in Tripoli if they like but they're going to starve to death. They can maybe send their best equipped units but their best equipped units tend to be SS and the SS tend to be horrible so it'll more or less balance out. Yeah, North Africa is a function of the combination of Italian shipping and the distance between Italian ports and whatever the port being used for Axis forces is, be it Tunis, Tripoli, Sirte or oh jesus gently caress Erwin you're seriously going to make the Italian Navy guard convoys all the way out to Tobruk? Really? It's bad enough that by the time they're out at Marsa Matruh, the fuel fraction of a truck's load to get it from Tunis out there is well over 100%, that is they are forced to supply through farther out, more exposed ports, because a truck loaded to capacity with fuel and no cargo still wouldn't reach the front. I'd expect committing SS units to be actively harmful since best equipped and most effectively equipped to fight efficiently, and their main advantage as a combat unit was their willingness to see a great many SS men dead to achieve their goals, something that isn't a great idea at the end of a tenuous logistical chain.
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Epicurius posted:At the first half of the 17th century, the Ottomans were dealing with wars against the Persians, popular unrest, the threat of civil war, and a Sultan who was kind of....not entirely mentally there.
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you joke but this is about as peaceful and drama free as anything has ever been i include the world from 1946 to 2001 in this "everything"
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HEY GUNS posted:you joke but this is about as peaceful and drama free as anything has ever been Three years down, five to go. 
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Schadenboner posted:Three years down, five to go.
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HEY GUNS posted:you joke but this is about as peaceful and drama free as anything has ever been
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HEY GUNS posted:didn't that guy get overthrown and then reinstated? or was that another guy That was him. He was the Ottoman Justinian II.
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Nebakenezzer posted:Was it just locking up potential sultans in the dark house Ottoman princes were not really locked up in jail cells, they were heavily supervised and barred from free movement. This is more or less what happened to every child of royalty, and the Ottomans had some direct motivation for this because their previous history of fratricide stemmed from prince-governors revolting whenever a succession crisis happened. The princes were educated and chilled out in various palaces and apartments. Throughout the 1800s, the Ottoman Sultans start turning into constitutional monarchs, through legal reforms and changes in court custom. The pop history view of the Ottomans was at one point, "10 good emperors, then 10 bad emperors", which was just insipid, and last I heard it was still being trotted out by school textbooks occasionally.
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xthetenth posted:Yeah, North Africa is a function of the combination of Italian shipping and the distance between Italian ports and whatever the port being used for Axis forces is, be it Tunis, Tripoli, Sirte or oh jesus gently caress Erwin you're seriously going to make the Italian Navy guard convoys all the way out to Tobruk? Really? It's bad enough that by the time they're out at Marsa Matruh, the fuel fraction of a truck's load to get it from Tunis out there is well over 100%, that is they are forced to supply through farther out, more exposed ports, because a truck loaded to capacity with fuel and no cargo still wouldn't reach the front. Rommel was a big fan of the “Jeep problem”. (Not really. That’s a joke.)
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HEY GUNS posted:what? Trump
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Schadenboner posted:Three years down, five to go. We hope. I don't think Trump has ever followed a law he found inconvenient unless someone was there to force him.
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Anshu posted:We hope. I don't think Trump has ever followed a law he found inconvenient unless someone was there to force him. Let's have better hopes than that. There is an election next year, remember.
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HEY GUNS posted:What would you have charged that guy with? pikes, obviously
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Epicurius posted:Let's have better hopes than that. There is an election next year, remember. Yeah, 5 more years to go minimum.
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Epicurius posted:Let's have better hopes than that. There is an election next year, remember. I'm hoping entropy does him and Biden 30383 in.
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HEY GUNS posted:you joke but this is about as peaceful and drama free as anything has ever been This is so loving stupid what is wrong with you
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Epicurius posted:That was him. He was the Ottoman Justinian II. Is the story about the time where he wasn't sultan even half as interesting as Justinian's saga? Also, did he have a gold nose?
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Elyv posted:Is the story about the time where he wasn't sultan even half as interesting as Justinian's saga? Sultan of Syph!
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Elyv posted:Is the story about the time where he wasn't sultan even half as interesting as Justinian's saga? Sadly, no to both. He did throw coins at birds though, in an attempt to feed them, and pull the beards and knock the turbans off of his advisors, though. He became sultan for a little while, then was deposed in favor of his nephew Osman, and dumped in a palace. Then, a few years later, a coup by the Jannisaries overthrew and killed Osman and put him back on the throne. The first thing he did once he was back was order the execution of the coup plotters. He was sultan for another year and spent a lot of that time running through the palace looking for his nephew and crying, because hed forget his nephew was dead and wanted him to take the throne back. He was deposed again, in favor of another nephew, was dumped in yet another palace with his mother, and lived there pretty contentedly until his death 16 years later. The difference is, unlike Justinian II, Mustafa never really wanted to be in charge and was happy to let his mother or his visitor or his nephew or whoever actually run things, while he was more interested in things like taking care of fish and having conversations about cannons and things like that. (He really liked cannons).
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Rodrigo Diaz posted:This is so loving stupid what is wrong with you On the contrary. It's a long book but you should really read The Better Angels of our Nature by Steven Pinker. The world today is the safest, most just, most human rights friendly and war free that we have ever known as a species. While we obviously have our problems of the day, millions and millions of people aren't dying in stupid wars for them at anywhere near the same rates we've used to. Violence and rape and crime of all sorts has dropped precipitously. This is the best planet Earth has ever been! And with luck it'll keep on getting better. Also it was Tycho Brahé who had the golden nose IIRC.
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Rodrigo Diaz posted:This is so loving stupid what is wrong with you pick a year HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 16:52 on Sep 13, 2019 |
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what are common drilling maneuvers for a tercio asking for a thread
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FAUXTON posted:what are common drilling maneuvers for a tercio  in my opinion they don't drill, the new guys just take years to be acculturated into the habitus of being a professional soldier and they learn gradually from the more experienced people. in other peoples' opinion, drill began at around the turn of the century with people like Moritz of Nassau or Johann Jacobi von Wallhausen. For what that would have looked and felt like...can you read german? hold on, do you mean "what would their maneuver on the field have looked, sounded, felt, and smelled like"? or "how do they practice" HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Sep 13, 2019 |
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HEY GUNS posted:oh god you opened a Can you put the various arguments surrounding drilling in your specialty in the form of a American Choppers Meme
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