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M2tt
Dec 23, 2000
Forum Veteran

Dick Jones posted:

What are the odds of either a Stromberg or an Akula sale in the near future? It looks like the last time these were discounted was Feb/Mar 2018. Or do Doomsday vehicles rarely get discounts because R* wants people to buy facilities?

Both of these were in the recent sets of twitch prime discounts, so not slim as regular discounts? But also not going to be the best possible discounts on account of them having dozens of other options to cycle through.

That said both of those are worth whatever you pay.

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Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS
I was on yesterday looking at Warstock and the Akula was showing on sale for me.

Dick Jones
Jun 20, 2002

Number 2 Guy at OCP

Medullah posted:

I was on yesterday looking at Warstock and the Akula was showing on sale for me.

Hmm. That might be a targeted sale, or you've hosted and completed the Server Farms setup mission.

hiddenriverninja
May 10, 2013

life is locomotion
keep moving
trust that you'll find your way

Can anyone tell me which Character Action this is and how to get it? Doesn't seem to be on my list.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Looks like yoga maybe?

Fart.Bleed.Repeat.
Sep 29, 2001

Karate chop or something like that. A few have been added in the last couple dlc’s. Cut throat is neat if you hold CAPS it’ll put finger to your throat and hold it then when you release it cuts across

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


I don't know the controller controls but with a keyboard, caps performs your quick action but double-tapping caps performs a longer/funnier alt action

Rad-daddio
Apr 25, 2017

FuturePastNow posted:

I don't know the controller controls but with a keyboard, caps performs your quick action but double-tapping caps performs a longer/funnier alt action

On xbone your press both control sticks rapidly to get the longer alt action.

Pelvic thrust is the best :)

mp5
Jan 1, 2005

Stroke of luck!

Clicking my Xbox controller sticks in on PC doesn't seem to do my quick action anymore and i'm upset

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

Rad-daddio posted:

On xbone your press both control sticks rapidly to get the longer alt action.

Pelvic thrust is the best :)

Pelvic thrust is a weird way to say air jerk off.

I also like the make it rain because there's no better way to show you're rich than an emote that costs $1000 per use.

Babe Magnet
Jun 2, 2008

boutta start this poo poo up again now that my friends are playing again, time to grind out doomsday heists for money

coupedeville
Jan 1, 2012

MY ANACONDA DOM'T WANT NONE UNLESS U GOT CUM SON!

Babe Magnet posted:

boutta start this poo poo up again now that my friends are playing again, time to grind out doomsday heists for money

Oh snap babe magnet has come full circle to GTA online again :)

Babe Magnet
Jun 2, 2008

Last time I played was like shortly after Night Clubs came out, so there's a lot I need to catch up on. I'm afraid to see my bank account balance (and also how much money I have in-game too)

Fart.Bleed.Repeat.
Sep 29, 2001

Babe Magnet posted:

Last time I played was like shortly after Night Clubs came out, so there's a lot I need to catch up on. I'm afraid to see my bank account balance (and also how much money I have in-game too)

Gonna want to buy a horse and spend the time training it so you can race and get the good odds for your stable

Babe Magnet
Jun 2, 2008

I'll look up how to do that, yeah, thanks. Time to make some video game dollars.

Dick Jones
Jun 20, 2002

Number 2 Guy at OCP

Switching nightclubs was less painful than anticipated with the discount + trade in price. I now have a spicy Vinewood nightclub along with a Pounder Custom in the garage. With the new location I was able to grab some last-minute business battle crates that took way less time to deliver to the club than they would have if I'd stayed on Elysian frickin' island.

mp5
Jan 1, 2005

Stroke of luck!

The Krieger is an excellent supercar and you all should own it

namlosh
Feb 11, 2014

I name this haircut "The Sad Rhino".

mp5 posted:

The Krieger is an excellent supercar and you all should own it

Agreed, I’m legit surprised at how fast and fun it is

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS
How does it compare to the Deveste 8?

namlosh
Feb 11, 2014

I name this haircut "The Sad Rhino".

Medullah posted:

How does it compare to the Deveste 8?

I’m not necessarily a great driver, but I think it’s much better... handles better anyway

mp5
Jan 1, 2005

Stroke of luck!

Medullah posted:

How does it compare to the Deveste 8?

I'm not a car doctor but with all the upgrades it feels like it accelerates faster and it most certainly handles much better.

davebo
Nov 15, 2006

Parallel lines do meet, but they do it incognito
College Slice
With all the fast cars in the game at this point I'm, surprised anything feels significantly different from an already existing car at this point. I'll have to look into this Krieger. Or was that the green one I got from the wheel earlier this week?

Shard
Jul 30, 2005

Started playing again if anyone wants to add me on Steam: https://s.team/p/dhf-hpdv/nwfmdhcj

Otacon
Aug 13, 2002


davebo posted:

With all the fast cars in the game at this point I'm, surprised anything feels significantly different from an already existing car at this point. I'll have to look into this Krieger. Or was that the green one I got from the wheel earlier this week?

The Krieger just came out ~24 hours ago and costs $2.8mil. It isn't a podium/wheel car. It's now the games most expensive non-weaponized ground vehicle.

It's very fast, AWD, and handles pretty well! Emerus / Krieger are the two newest and fastest laptime supercars and are on par with each other. Deveste 8 is still the better stunt racer due to higher top speed.

Just to give some old-heads some idea, current gen Sports-class cars are faster than a majority of the older supercars, so Rockstar has turned up the speed on new supercars to justify multi-million pricetags.

If anyone does any super-racing at all and don't already own an Emerus or Krieger, you might need to look into them to remain competitive.

Fart.Bleed.Repeat.
Sep 29, 2001

davebo posted:

With all the fast cars in the game at this point I'm, surprised anything feels significantly different from an already existing car at this point. I'll have to look into this Krieger. Or was that the green one I got from the wheel earlier this week?

The lime green one from last week was the Nero. Fast car and you can take it to Bennys to upgrade it to the Nero Custom. Basically this is a Bugatti Chiron





Haven't R* also recently tweaked or removed some of the internal flags that regulate car handling and speed? I know some of the cars ~feel~ faster and more sensitive when driving them but im like 95% free roam so not sure how they handle with racing on track conditions. In the city you cant really tell the diff between most of the top end cars

Otacon
Aug 13, 2002


Fart.Bleed.Repeat. posted:

The lime green one from last week was the Nero. Fast car and you can take it to Bennys to upgrade it to the Nero Custom. Basically this is a Bugatti Chiron





Haven't R* also recently tweaked or removed some of the internal flags that regulate car handling and speed? I know some of the cars ~feel~ faster and more sensitive when driving them but im like 95% free roam so not sure how they handle with racing on track conditions. In the city you cant really tell the diff between most of the top end cars

Advanced Handling Flags were modified - if a vehicle previously had the flag for being "bumpy" that value has been toned down. It hasn't made too many changes to vehicle lapspeed rankings (and 0 change to topspeed tanking) but there's a few that have been shuffled +1 up.

AHF Retests Sports: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tls6UWfgtmo
AHF Retests Supers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBuRoEl5LRk

Some videos with more info on AHF changes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=playlist

Otacon fucked around with this message at 16:21 on Sep 13, 2019

Shard
Jul 30, 2005

If you're so inclined I also play on PS4 under deathreaper1986.

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."
So I finally went hard on properties and entered into that MMO grind loop but could use a little advice on what I should do next?

I had about 3mil from various promotions and stuff before and the free penthouse + casino missions drew me back in, so I ended up getting;

-A high-end apartment just to store vehicles, because it was still cheaper than the casino garage-add on by about $850k
-An office with a small crates warehouse
-A bunker with all the supply upgrades (it was on sale)
-A nightclub (also on sale) with two technicians eking out a meager profit

I know I probably went somewhat out of order but what should my next purchase be? I only have about 1.3mil and I'm not sure if I should get an MC club for the passive nightclub income (I assume the businesses are pricier than than club's 200k price by a bit), a vehicle warehouse, or what? I dont even own a helicopter or anything and I've never done any heists :shrug:

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS
Vehicle warehouse is pretty easy money, and if you do it right you can only source high end cars for maximum profit.

Stacking motorcycle businesses for the nightclub is great if you play a lot or afk overnight.

Dick Jones
Jun 20, 2002

Number 2 Guy at OCP

Wolfsheim posted:

So I finally went hard on properties and entered into that MMO grind loop but could use a little advice on what I should do next?

I had about 3mil from various promotions and stuff before and the free penthouse + casino missions drew me back in, so I ended up getting;

-A high-end apartment just to store vehicles, because it was still cheaper than the casino garage-add on by about $850k
-An office with a small crates warehouse
-A bunker with all the supply upgrades (it was on sale)
-A nightclub (also on sale) with two technicians eking out a meager profit

I know I probably went somewhat out of order but what should my next purchase be? I only have about 1.3mil and I'm not sure if I should get an MC club for the passive nightclub income (I assume the businesses are pricier than than club's 200k price by a bit), a vehicle warehouse, or what? I dont even own a helicopter or anything and I've never done any heists :shrug:

I'd say either a vehicle cargo warehouse or a Terrorbyte. As for Terrorbyte add-ons, I use the drone fairly often for client missions (which pay about 20-30K each for fairly easy jobs), but I almost never use the missile battery, and so far I've only used the built-in workshop to upgrade my combat MG. Ultimately, you don't need missiles or the drone to successfully do the client missions. The body counts will just be higher and you might get an additional star at times.

Fart.Bleed.Repeat.
Sep 29, 2001

Wolfsheim posted:

I know I probably went somewhat out of order but what should my next purchase be? I only have about 1.3mil and I'm not sure if I should get an MC club for the passive nightclub income (I assume the businesses are pricier than than club's 200k price by a bit), a vehicle warehouse, or what? I dont even own a helicopter or anything and I've never done any heists :shrug:

Pretty much on the right track to easy street. As stuff goes on sale, pick up some motorcycle businesses(cheapest option, dont worry about upgrading) and more night club techs, along with additional warehouse floors at the night club

Since you have the small crate warehouse, run through a few cycles of that to see how much $$ it makes you- the best plan is to do three x (3) crate buys so you get 9 crates, and then sell that to almost guarantee a single vehicle sale
Same thing with the bunker, do a couple rounds of stealing supplies, steal one, let it turn to product and sell that, then do it with 2 stealing supplies etc, see if that works better than buying? Buying is 75k and takes about 2 hours to percolate into sellable product, sells for about 220k, so thats ~150k of profit that is just bookending 2 hours of gameplay doing other stuff.

Get in, see what needs supplies or crates, F around for a bit, then sell whats been made and thats like a full night, before even getting into discussions about AFK tips and crippling gambling addictions

Sleekly
Aug 21, 2008



Medullah posted:

Vehicle warehouse is pretty easy money, and if you do it right you can only source high end cars for maximum profit.

Stacking motorcycle businesses for the nightclub is great if you play a lot or afk overnight.

Whats the vehicle trick? Something about the last 2 spots I think?

Fart.Bleed.Repeat.
Sep 29, 2001

There are 32 different cars you can source. If you do 32 in a row youll get one of each, they dont start repeating until then. So if you get all 32 cars yo ucan sell one, and then the next car you source is guaranteed to be that same model. Sell high end cars and then youre guaranteed to keep sourcing high end cars

Fart.Bleed.Repeat.
Sep 29, 2001

Thats also the best way to work on collections. Since you know what car you need to complete a set, sell it and source until you get the one w the right plate. Since theyre free to source, youll know immediately if its one you want or can just blow it up and source again in a few minutes to try for the right plate



Collection car sales are a good way to "gift" money to other players too. (just using round numbers here but pretty close) Take one of the 4 car collections for example, if you sell all 4 at once it will say like $200k commission + $50k bonus. The boss gets that $200k minus crashes no matter what. Each car that is delviered is worth 50k bonus TO THE PERSON WHO DRIVES IT INTO THE CIRCLE. Normally this would be 4 people each driving a car, so each player would get a 50k bonus. If you want to give that bonus to another player, stop before the circle and get out, let them get in and finish the delivery, now they're getting 100k bonus(50 for the first car and 50 for the second). it'd be possible to let the same person drive all 4 in and collect $200k bonus just on vehicles, and the boss is still getting his 200k

Fart.Bleed.Repeat. fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Sep 13, 2019

mp5
Jan 1, 2005

Stroke of luck!

Wolfsheim posted:

So I finally went hard on properties and entered into that MMO grind loop but could use a little advice on what I should do next?

I had about 3mil from various promotions and stuff before and the free penthouse + casino missions drew me back in, so I ended up getting;

-A high-end apartment just to store vehicles, because it was still cheaper than the casino garage-add on by about $850k
-An office with a small crates warehouse
-A bunker with all the supply upgrades (it was on sale)
-A nightclub (also on sale) with two technicians eking out a meager profit

I know I probably went somewhat out of order but what should my next purchase be? I only have about 1.3mil and I'm not sure if I should get an MC club for the passive nightclub income (I assume the businesses are pricier than than club's 200k price by a bit), a vehicle warehouse, or what? I dont even own a helicopter or anything and I've never done any heists :shrug:

The order I used and would recommend is very generally

High-End Apartment to unlock the original Heists and give you some seed money for an Armored Kuruma or Buzzard and your CEO Office
CEO Office, Maze Bank West costs only 1M
Vehicle Warehouse, La Mesa costs 1.5M and is right by a highway exit
Bunker
MC Businesses (only Coke, Meth, Cash and all three in Sandy Shores; both Weed and Documents are poor uses of your money so I ignored them and never bought)
A Special Cargo Warehouse, ideally the cheapest one in the game to allow you to accrue Cargo goods in your Nightclub
Nightclub, getting five Nightclub Warehouse Technicians to generate goods from Cargo, Bunker, Coke, Meth, Cash. Buy a Pounder Custom for your Nightclub, do not buy a Mule Custom.


Sleekly posted:

Whats the vehicle trick? Something about the last 2 spots I think?

There are 32 possible unique cars that you can source, though some have variants you can mostly ignore. 10 Standard, 10 Mid-Range, and 12 Top Range cars. If you have one of each of the Standard and Mid-Range cars in your Warehouse, you will only source Top Range cars, guaranteed, because the game will not give you duplicate cars until you have them all.

THe only way for you to mess that up is if you complete a set of the 1-32 cars, then source a new dupe, say Car 1B, then sell Car 32A. At that point the game thinks you are working on two sets of cars again and will just give you whatever, which you want to avoid.

Sleekly
Aug 21, 2008



Thanks for the car thing! I was wondering why it stopped giving me top cars.

Fart.Bleed.Repeat.
Sep 29, 2001

If you’re at 32 cars hit the arrow to sort by name and just make sure there’s not 2 of something. If so then sell one of em

Sleekly
Aug 21, 2008



There's loads of dupes lol. God know how long some of them have been there for.

Pontificating Ass
Aug 2, 2002

What Doth Life?

Wolfsheim posted:

-A bunker with all the supply upgrades (it was on sale)
That's a lot of value, it took me a while to get that stuff together back before the big sales. Bunker is EZ money #1 if you ask me, here's what I do:

- Optionally wait for a 2x $ week, you'll get almost $2mil for a full bunker. $1.8 I think with no bonus
- It's pretty possible to do full bunker missions by yourself. Start the mission, and it will give you sometimes 4 vehicles with 15 minutes and you are hosed, so just do find new session. Basically there are missions where it gives you only 3 drops (as opposed to 15, randomly), so there is time to do it yourself. The bunker doesn't lose much value when you do 'find new session' so you can do this like 10 times without losing too much.

Takes a long time to fill up though.

Also on the bunker always it's always better to buy research because you get more value from selling.

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mp5
Jan 1, 2005

Stroke of luck!


Pontificating rear end posted:

That's a lot of value, it took me a while to get that stuff together back before the big sales. Bunker is EZ money #1 if you ask me, here's what I do:

- Optionally wait for a 2x $ week, you'll get almost $2mil for a full bunker. $1.8 I think with no bonus
- It's pretty possible to do full bunker missions by yourself. Start the mission, and it will give you sometimes 4 vehicles with 15 minutes and you are hosed, so just do find new session. Basically there are missions where it gives you only 3 drops (as opposed to 15, randomly), so there is time to do it yourself. The bunker doesn't lose much value when you do 'find new session' so you can do this like 10 times without losing too much.

Takes a long time to fill up though.

Bunker stats assuming full upgrades:
Supply purchase cost 75k
140k for each 20%, so 700k for a full bunker
Each 20% takes 2h 20m to fill up and 10 minutes for supplies to arrive, so 2h30m total of time you must be in Freeroam mode.

Sell value (always sell to Los Santos):
210k for each 20%, 1.05m for a full bunker
420k and 2.1m during a 2X week like the one we just had
This equates to 135k profit on the sale even when buying Supplies, assuming no High Demand bonus.

If you close application to get a new bunker sale you lose 1% of the bunker's value (140k becomes 133k)

I personally would only sell single vehicles solo even with the Chumash bunker, and tbh most of the time people don't bother going after Gunrunning sales anyway. If I ever get stock accumulating I'll enlist help from the Discord.

You get a 1% bonus per rival player in the lobby when the sale is completed (the High Demand bonus), so I always try to sell in a lobby with at least 10 rival players. It's honestly easier than it sounds, even with a dumb sale like the 5 Dune Buggy drop.

When selling solo, always be a CEO so you can use Ghost Organization. 3 minutes of total invisibility is more than enough time to get the Phantom Wedge from Chumash down to the docks, for example. Ghost Organization costs $12k to use , which if you're selling a single vehicle in a lobby with even 6 other players in it, will be paid for by the multiplier you get at the end. When selling in a group, you can still be a CEO, or be in an MC if you want your friends to get a 30k bonus for helping you sell.

I spend most of my time solo and the Bunker is a super easy way to make reliable money. You can mix in Vehicle import/export and VIP missions to get more cash while you wait for your Bunker to fill up to 20%, and those don't get a multiplier for more players in-lobby.

The High Demand bonus on a 2.1m bunker is 21k per rival player, which if you have a squad of goons helping you sell is a very realistic thing and free money. You should experiment to find the method that works best for you though

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