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orange juche posted:It's super loving easy to join Goons though you just slide in under one of the hundreds of pubbie corps. It's also really easy to stay in Goons, just log into jabber and mumble once a month
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Zazz Razzamatazz posted:So why didn't other alliances get Roarqs and do the same? Because they're ~elite pvp~ not dirty miners.
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Sep 13, 2019 22:01
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orange juche posted:It's super loving easy to join Goons though you just slide in under one of the hundreds of pubbie corps. "hundreds of pubbie corps" Karmafleet, and...?
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Sep 13, 2019 22:04
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Sep 13, 2019 22:32
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dragonshardz posted:"hundreds of pubbie corps" Aren't there pubbie chinese corps and weird miners and poo poo that recruit from Jita local? ASCEE and poo poo?
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Sep 13, 2019 22:51
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Yo that second galaxy poo poo looks like a straight ripoff of Eve online lol Only problem is it's totally a gacha hell game most likely because mobile.
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Sep 13, 2019 22:56
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Zazz Razzamatazz posted:So why didn't other alliances get Roarqs and do the same? They did, with their goon alts.
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Zazz Razzamatazz posted:So why didn't other alliances get Roarqs and do the same? Because Goons did what Goons always seem to do: they organized, like bees. The coalition built a fuckton of infrastructure, like enough citadels that you could walk from Cloud Ring to Aridia to Period Basis without getting your feet wet, did crucial organizational work like produce guides on how to mine in Rorquals effectively and safely, and built the processes around defense fleets that could respond instantly to mining Rorquals in trouble so that all they had to do was pop a cyno and wait for a hundred titans to jump in and boosh whatever entered local, while faxes rep the rorquals. (Faxes are Fleet Auxilliaries, a new type of capital ship - they took over the structure and capital repping role from carriers, which are dedicated combat ships now). And, as always, we continued to have the best social welfare programs in EVE. Fly for us and we will pay you to lose ships. When a game sucks and is becoming increasingly lovely, the place with the best living conditions will still have the most active and productive members. Most of the old guard that made groups like PL legendary have quit playing, and with them went the drive and talent to stay competitive. Most of our enemies don't like to admit that they PVE at all, or do it on alts in renter alliances. They definitely don't like to help one another PVE, particularly not in public, and not in an organized fashion. It's embarrassing. People might think you are less than elite because you spend all this time sucking crok. And it's work - it's hard, tedious work. Most of all, it's an endless, endless loving argument to fight to keep thousands of people on message and maintaining that organization once it's in shape, and our enemies don't like one another all that much in the first place. It's weird, when you think about it, but the true power and legacy of "chaotic" Goonswarm is bureaucracy.
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Sep 13, 2019 23:08
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paperchaseguy posted:Is there a gooncorp in Yes there is search G00N (with zeros) and I think a new thread was made for it recently... maybe
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Zazz Razzamatazz posted:So why didn't other alliances get Roarqs and do the same? PVPers sometimes have disdain for miners. As though these are two completely separate groups of players: noble warriors and peasant miners. Mining is for renters. Goons have thought this too at times. Ratting is better than mining, because ratting uses the same skills as pvp while mining skills are useless. Some bright bulb in goons must have noticed that supers are made of minerals, not ISK. This revelation was enough to overcome the prejudice and turn goons into a mining superpower.
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Mining alone didn't do this, the serious economic and logistical planning that went into our move into Delve set the stage. The Rorqual changes combined with skill injectors and fielding a useful local supercapital umbrella got us ahead. CCP's ChAoS eRa tableflip is now cementing that advantage, whilst literally killing the game in the process. One could say that we've won.
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Sep 13, 2019 23:41
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Is it time to build a whateverthefuck keepstar that takes so many resources that nobody should/would ever build it? Since the game is literally going down the tubes and I'm sure it won't be around for very long after October
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orange juche posted:Is it time to build a whateverthefuck keepstar that takes so many resources that nobody should/would ever build it? Since the game is literally going down the tubes and I'm sure it won't be around for very long after October The game didn’t have the manpower to PI farm the materials before the slump so lmao
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orange juche posted:Is it time to build a whateverthefuck keepstar that takes so many resources that nobody should/would ever build it? Since the game is literally going down the tubes and I'm sure it won't be around for very long after October The same guy who did the video about EVE's economy did a video about ~roughly~ what it'd take just Goons to build one and it was still something like *years* of singularly-focused effort to build one. Here ya go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUNYQl0hlyk&t=303s BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Sep 14, 2019 |
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Sep 14, 2019 01:18
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ZombieLenin posted:So, here is the thing right. Even if you used third party intel apps to warn you, you had to be at your keyboard to not die in null before the blackout; and sadly lots of people still died. that's a lot of words to reiterate what i said in dumber terms ZombieLenin posted:And that’s not even getting at the pretty serious issues the blackout has caused, including player drops. And here is the thing, right... saying local was used for social interaction is dishonest, and it's still there to be used just as much as it was earlier. i fundamentally disagree with your premise ZombieLenin posted:(narcissistic personality disorder) there it is, a classic ZombieLenin posted:1. CCP hosed itself a long time ago, and EVE is hosed; or blackout is highly popular everywhere except in one particular group in eve also the 'massive loss' in players can be attributed to mostly bots, the cessation of mass multiboxed ratters, and probably a few people that have quit. it was pretty reasonable to assume there were at a minimum several hundred bots concurrently active in nullsec daily and that number is mostly consistent with the loss of pcu. CCP also stated daily active users were up so even then your claims aren't strong enough to make such claims
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Sep 14, 2019 02:37
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Sep 14, 2019 02:43
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1001 Arabian dicks posted:blackout is highly popular everywhere except in one particular group in eve
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How is Faction Warfare faring in the Chaos Era? I kinda miss the days of jumping into a small frigate fleet and at least being able to get into a fight, usually one sided and decided unsatisfactory in seconds but at least it was something, in 5-10 minutes.
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:The game didn’t have the manpower to PI farm the materials before the slump so lmao That's what they would say. Then one day BAAM 4K Palpatine Tuzy star. It's not like they could go "hey we're building this thing 2 years down the line so start farming PI" Prices would go insane (second thought, do this Aryth) I mean it's still not being built but the messaging would be the same either way.
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Sep 14, 2019 04:22
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Is eve actually dead come October or is this one of those things where people say eve is dead, poo poo, and dying but it never happens like for the past twenty years?
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Toalpaz posted:Is eve actually dead come October or is this one of those things where people say eve is dead, poo poo, and dying but it never happens like for the past twenty years?
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Sep 14, 2019 05:10
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Eve has been dead for years it will just be more dead.
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Toalpaz posted:Is eve actually dead come October or is this one of those things where people say eve is dead, poo poo, and dying but it never happens like for the past twenty years? Some people have been saying "eve is dead" while login numbers went up an down a bit. Now that numbers have tanked significantly, eve is obviously not dying.
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CainFortea posted:Some people have been saying "eve is dead" while login numbers went up an down a bit. login numbers are a contrarian indicator
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GeneticWeapon posted:It's popular with people who hot-drop and pvp, but for everyone else it's a pain in the dick. pvpers should be incentivized imo, the game should be riskier not safer edit: it's pretty popular across the board, it's not a pver versus pvper thing, it's more complicated 1001 Arabian dicks fucked around with this message at 06:40 on Sep 14, 2019 |
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Sep 14, 2019 06:36
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1001 Arabian dicks posted:pvpers should be incentivized imo, the game should be riskier not safer find me a dude in nullsec who does pve who likes the blackout. (not rutibex he's even stupider than you globby)
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1001 Arabian dicks posted:pvpers should be incentivized imo, the game should be riskier not safer incentivizing pvpers by making pve nearly impossible to do without a margin of safety means their pvp ships get more expensive and their targets dwindle
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orange juche posted:find me a dude in nullsec who does pve who likes the blackout. uhh, just look at reddit, plenty of people there FAT32 SHAMER posted:incentivizing pvpers by making pve nearly impossible to do without a margin of safety means their pvp ships get more expensive and their targets dwindle it's not impossible, it's highly possible is it balanced compared to other pve activities? no but it's still possible.
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They should have dramatically reduced the size of the galaxy years ago. Cut out half of wormhole space and 1/3 of the systems in every constellation. Sure there are some incredibly dense population centers, but for the most part poo poo is empty as hell. Now the population is dwindling even harder, so what felt like a dead game @20k feels even worse @10k.
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causticBeet posted:They should have dramatically reduced the size of the galaxy years ago. Cut out half of wormhole space and 1/3 of the systems in every constellation. Sure there are some incredibly dense population centers, but for the most part poo poo is empty as hell. daily reminder that in 2012/2013 the pcu was 64k
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1001 Arabian dicks posted:uhh, just look at reddit, plenty of people there Maybe you found a couple of Reddit poster who share your opinion, but on the whole they are overwhelmingly against blackout. And Eve's player base falloff certainly doesn't support your argument. 
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Sep 14, 2019 08:53
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CainFortea posted:Because they're ~elite pvp~ not dirty miners. Or some of us were just rich from the age of T2 BPOs and didn't have to engage in the painstakingly boring PvE bullshit in EVE "Kill people, take their stuff" was good enough to sustain 1-3 ship losses per month without damaging personal war chests.
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GeneticWeapon posted:Maybe you found a couple of Reddit poster who share your opinion, but on the whole they are overwhelmingly against blackout. this is wrong lmao, you gotta be retarded to actually believe this. the entire 'blackout is ending' thread is people complaining about how blackout was a good thing
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Sep 14, 2019 11:32
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1001 Arabian dicks posted:this is wrong lmao, you gotta be retarded to actually believe this. reddit is a website that makes it easy to astroturf opinions so its no small wonder that the vocal minority is overrepresented on reddit while the rest of the players are uh, playing KSP, overwatch, and the cheeki breeki fps game with permaloss
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Sep 14, 2019 11:43
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Sep 14, 2019 12:16
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Guess the bots are going to come back now
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Sep 14, 2019 12:35
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Thinking I might just leave eve alone then based on what’s going on. Starbase seems like its going to be entering EA at some point this year anyway and that looks like it’s got the space drama and player economy stuff I’m looking for anyway.
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:reddit is a website that makes it easy to astroturf opinions so its no small wonder that the vocal minority is overrepresented on reddit while the rest of the players are uh, let's not pretend that eve wasn't already dying and there were other factors involved in the drop of the playerbase (like how the biggest drop off was on the day classic wow released, nope no coincidence there!) and as for the astroturfing, it's quite clear that the only people astroturfing is the imperium.
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1001 Arabian dicks posted:and as for the astroturfing, it's quite clear that the only people astroturfing is the imperium Gwyneth Palpate posted:aaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha
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https://clips.twitch.tv/ExpensiveJazzyDonutOMGScoots So blackout ends monday.
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