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kitten smoothie posted:I've known a lot of people who become managers and then immediately turn into the worst sort of caffeine addicts, because the default format for a 1:1 is "let's grab a coffee." Green tea's great too if you skip the coffee and pound it all day
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I never liked to drink coffee. I used to drink energy drinks, but a few years ago I've transitioned to black tea and honey. Mid-tier English Breakfast is my favorite.
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2 coffees a day unless I'm very stressed in which case I take 3. Water after that, occassionally an orange juice from the fridge.
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I can't drink coffee regularly because it's really harsh on my stomach. So tea is my preference. The only issue is that in a hurry I don't have the time to let my tea steep so I take a few sips of black coffee.darthbob88 posted:I used to do a commute that was 2.5-3 hours each way, by bus. And yeah, I could and did sleep on the trip, but it was still grueling.
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Sep 14, 2019 15:21
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I generally drink coffee until lunch, but switch off afterwards. I definitely noticed an improvement in sleep when I did that.
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necrobobsledder posted:But I'm not on-call really any more (follow the sun globally distributed schedules should be the default rule for any company larger than 3 engineers)
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Sep 14, 2019 19:09
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We have a barista bar at the office so I'll usually get an iced latte with 4 espresso shots right when I get into the office and then maybe a red bull towards the middle of the afternoon if I feel like I'm lagging Why yes I do have a toddler at home and don't get much sleep, why do you ask
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Sep 14, 2019 19:23
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Keetron posted:I do this as a distributed satellite away from the mothership and I find collaborating on a codebase with a team 9 timezones away pretty difficult.
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Blinkz0rz posted:Why yes I do have a toddler at home and don't get much sleep, why do you ask 
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Sep 14, 2019 20:26
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Blinkz0rz posted:We have a barista bar at the office so I'll usually get an iced latte with 4 espresso shots right when I get into the office and then maybe a red bull towards the middle of the afternoon if I feel like I'm lagging FWIW 4 shots sounds like a lot of caffeine, and it is, but it's also roughly equivalent in caffeine to 16 oz of drip coffee. I've had coworkers go all "how do you live with this much caffeine" when I order a quad latte, and then when it's their turn they ask for a 20 ounce cup of drip. Funny enough I lowered my peak caffeine intake by buying an espresso machine at home. I'd buy a quad latte at a coffee shop in the mornings. But at home I'm too lazy to grind/tamp/dump twice to get 4 shots and so my morning cup is now just a double.
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Sep 14, 2019 21:18
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Vulture Culture posted:2:30 PM is generally my cutoff. After 4 PM is almost always a bad time Same
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Sep 14, 2019 22:20
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i'm surprised by how few people think about commutes when picking jobs especially if we're talking about daily commutes of more than a hour
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Sep 15, 2019 01:41
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When people buy houses they always overestimate how much happiness they get from more space and underestimate how much happiness they get from a shorter commute.
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Sep 15, 2019 04:26
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lifg posted:When people buy houses they always overestimate how much happiness they get from more space and underestimate how much happiness they get from a shorter commute. I had a job once where I had to commute 22 minutes. Never again.
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necrobobsledder posted:It depends very much how the company is structured but distributed-first companies tend to do this better, especially when they have continuous coverage. The human and business effects of sleep deprivation are very real and clear with almost no real solution possible while asynchronous communication on codebases is something that has some options at least. We were added two years in and I feel like a far away step child.
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Lumpy posted:I had a job once where I had to commute 22 minutes. Never again. Also working four days a week, which is nice. To me this is probably even more important for work/life balance purposes. I came from a 50+ minute commute each way (often 90+ minutes whenever there was a accident anywhere on the route), I absolutely hated it and came home completely exhausted every day. (Also have a nine month old baby girl at home, can confirm this doesn't work wonders for sleeping) Sagacity fucked around with this message at 11:38 on Sep 15, 2019 |
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Sep 15, 2019 10:58
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How did you swing the four day workweek?
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Sep 15, 2019 14:25
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This is in The Netherlands, where it's actually not that uncommon. Granted, you'll earn less, but the extra free time makes it a decent trade-off imo.
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Sep 15, 2019 14:52
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Lumpy posted:I had a job once where I had to commute 22 minutes. Never again. 
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Sagacity posted:This is in The Netherlands, where it's actually not that uncommon. Granted, you'll earn less, but the extra free time makes it a decent trade-off imo. Some employers are cool with working 4x9 and have a 36 hour payout.
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Sep 15, 2019 15:47
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Lumpy posted:I had a job once where I had to commute 22 minutes. Never again. So 23 or 21 minutes is fine, but not 22? 
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Sep 15, 2019 15:57
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Keetron posted:Some employers are cool with working 4x9 and have a 36 hour payout. Or 4x10 for the full 40. I know there are some goons on that schedule
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Keetron posted:Some employers are cool with working 4x9 and have a 36 hour payout.
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Moatman posted:Or 4x10 for the full 40. I know there are some goons on that schedule
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lifg posted:When people buy houses they always overestimate how much happiness they get from more space and underestimate how much happiness they get from a shorter commute. We currently do semi-remote -- the idea is that you can either come into the office every day (people who live in the city and either have kids or have roommates), or come into the office either every week or two weeks so we can have some face to face brainstorming on things. My take on this is that I could totally take 1.5 hours train commute every (other) week for good house In the meantime I actually live in the same city we have office, but my daughter is so far small enough that I don't need to go to office to be able to work. Sagacity posted:Yes, certainly. I'll just stick with the 4x8 though. I probably work more like 5x5, but I am still perceived as the most productive person in office. My explanation is that I actually work those 5 hours, and normal people cannot do 8 productive programming hours every day.
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When I got my first job as a developer and I was discussing terms with my new manager, when she asked how many hours I wanted to work per week and I said "40", she said: "wait what, there's still people who want to work 40 hours? I thought every dev nowadays only works 36 or 32 hours."
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Sep 15, 2019 19:52
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Sounds like another instance of Never Give a Number First
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I’d take 4x9 with a 10% paycut in a heartbeat. I’ve only been at my current position for 3 months or so. Wonder at what point it would be ok to start putting feelers out.
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Carbon dioxide posted:When I got my first job as a developer and I was discussing terms with my new manager, when she asked how many hours I wanted to work per week and I said "40", she said: "wait what, there's still people who want to work 40 hours? I thought every dev nowadays only works 36 or 32 hours." wait whaaa? Are you in the US? shrike82 posted:i'm surprised by how few people think about commutes when picking jobs especially if we're talking about daily commutes of more than a hour Exactly, this is why I'm willing to come in here and moan about my coworkers and other things - I have a 5 minute "commute" to the office and I own a home. So it's like... yeah, just suck it up for a while I guess.
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I work 32 hours at the moment, I love it. Worked 4 x 9 before but that became a slog after awhile.
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My Rhythmic Crotch posted:wait whaaa? Are you in the US? Netherlands. Also, it isn't quite true. I met many devs since who work 40 hours. It's quite normal to switch over to 32 hours once you become a parent though. The guys call this a 'daddy day'.
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Carbon dioxide posted:Netherlands. Also, it isn't quite true. I met many devs since who work 40 hours. A term which I really hate, like when a woman works less to take care of her kids it is considered normal and when a guy does it, it needs to be made into some sort of noble achievement.
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Keetron posted:A term which I really hate, like when a woman works less to take care of her kids it is considered normal and when a guy does it, it needs to be made into some sort of noble achievement. Spending less of your short time on earth working is a noble achievement no matter how you figure out how to do it IMO
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I actually timed my commute this morning. 5 minutes and 14 seconds from apartment door to sitting at my work desk. I live in an apartment across the street from my building and walk to work. This weekend, I moved to a new apartment on the first floor and that actually shaved off a minute from my commute waiting and riding the elevator. I do not look forward to moving in the future because nothing will be as good as this. 
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poemdexter posted:I actually timed my commute this morning. 5 minutes and 14 seconds from apartment door to sitting at my work desk. I live in an apartment across the street from my building and walk to work. This weekend, I moved to a new apartment on the first floor and that actually shaved off a minute from my commute waiting and riding the elevator. I do not look forward to moving in the future because nothing will be as good as this. There’s something to be said for a long commute isolating home from work and vice versa. If you can pop back and forth trivially, it’s easier to ignore other boundaries.
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JawnV6 posted:There’s something to be said for a long commute isolating home from work and vice versa. If you can pop back and forth trivially, it’s easier to ignore other boundaries. Not for me, nah. I do a full format when I walk out the door. I rarely crack my work laptop open while at home and can never remember what I was working on more than like... 2 days ago. That's also why I take meticulous notes.
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JawnV6 posted:There’s something to be said for a long commute isolating home from work and vice versa. If you can pop back and forth trivially, it’s easier to ignore other boundaries. I work from home 5 days a week - you can set boundaries, it just takes practice.
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Okay? Good for y'all? Have any tips or just vague handwaving "practice" is all you'll consider sharing?
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My Rhythmic Crotch posted:Not for me, nah. I do a full format when I walk out the door. I rarely crack my work laptop open while at home and can never remember what I was working on more than like... 2 days ago. That's also why I take meticulous notes. Look at this one remembering two days back
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JawnV6 posted:There’s something to be said for a long commute isolating home from work and vice versa. If you can pop back and forth trivially, it’s easier to ignore other boundaries. I lived a 7 minute drive or bike ride from my previous job. Only time I would "pop back and forth" would be if I happened to want to run to the office after hours to print something since I didn't have a printer at home. I went to work when it was time to go to work, and when I left the office I immediately stopped caring about work stuff. On the other hand, a long commute means that my job is eating up even more of my free time. I am already losing 9 hours of my day to my job(8 hours working, 30-60 minute lunch depending on the place, short commute), I do not want to lose even more time that I could use to do things I actually enjoy. My 25 minute commute at my current job is about as long as I could put up with, and even then I am working with my company to let me work at a remote location we have that is 5 minutes from my house.
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