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Slots really nicely into the mega-grindy Historic Brawl Cauldron/Bolas' Citadel/Command the Dreadhoard deck I'll play one time, think "Jesus Christ did that game actually take 40 minutes?" then never play again.
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Huxley posted:Slots really nicely into the mega-grindy Historic Brawl Cauldron/Bolas' Citadel/Command the Dreadhoard deck I'll play one time, think "Jesus Christ did that game actually take 40 minutes?" then never play again. if teferi is allowed to be a brawl commander, this cup should also be allowed to be a brawl commander
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Sep 16, 2019 22:11
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Add Phage to make it real momir. And Akron Legionnaire
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Sep 16, 2019 22:21
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InterrupterJones posted:drat, it’s a good time to want to play Yuriko EDH I guess Does Yuriko make good use of it? ...I'm kinda interested.
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Sep 16, 2019 22:22
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Osmosisch posted:
I loving love you, man.
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Sep 16, 2019 22:31
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odd that it gets cheaper as it gets better
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Sep 16, 2019 22:52
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evilweasel posted:odd that it gets cheaper as it gets better Probably because the more you activate it, the worse it gets. It's just another curve topper for black but I'm not sure it's better than command/citadel. It does work well with self-mill and discard though.
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Sep 16, 2019 22:58
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moush posted:Probably because the more you activate it, the worse it gets. It's just another curve topper for black but I'm not sure it's better than command/citadel. It does work well with self-mill and discard though. i mean it's cheaper to cast the better it is. if you've got five creatures in your yard, you cast it for two mana and can use it five times before its useless. if you've got one, it costs you ten setup mana and then three additional mana to perform one resurrection before it becomes useless
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Sep 16, 2019 23:01
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Framboise posted:Does Yuriko make good use of it? Anything that costs 10+ mana and is either blue or black can find a spot in Yuriko. The ability itself is interesting but probably slots into more of a graveyard strategy like Sidisi or Jarad.
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Sep 16, 2019 23:06
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evilweasel posted:i mean it's cheaper to cast the better it is. if you've got five creatures in your yard, you cast it for two mana and can use it five times before its useless. if you've got one, it costs you ten setup mana and then three additional mana to perform one resurrection before it becomes useless N.b.: you can continue stocking your graveyard through methods other than creatures dying, so it needn't become completely useless.
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Sep 16, 2019 23:09
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No Wave posted:I dont think they had to make cauldron quite that bad but what do I know. Well it is the prerelease period where every card is terrible except the borderline broken ones,which are "alright." Welcome to the thread!
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Sep 16, 2019 23:14
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InterrupterJones posted:Anything that costs 10+ mana and is either blue or black can find a spot in Yuriko. The ability itself is interesting but probably slots into more of a graveyard strategy like Sidisi or Jarad. Nah. This isn't good in any of those. It's junk.
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Sep 16, 2019 23:19
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I don't think the cauldron is good in a format with usurper Kaya and ashiok, dream render. The future, however, holds untold potential.
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Sep 16, 2019 23:19
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It incredibly easy to get it to cost two mana so I imagine it shows up somewhere though where I don't know
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Sep 16, 2019 23:27
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AnEdgelord posted:It incredibly easy to get it to cost two mana so I imagine it shows up somewhere though where I don't know in the bulk pile
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Sep 16, 2019 23:35
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Kild posted:in the bulk pile 
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Sep 16, 2019 23:39
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You can put it in your sideboard and grab it with karn, then use it as a 12/12 beater for 2.
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Sep 16, 2019 23:51
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the karn beating the poo poo out of you with a cast iron pot meta is real
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Sep 16, 2019 23:55
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Y'all are crazy if you don't think that's a playable card. It's contextual certainly, there has to be a creature-heavy black midrange deck or something similar, but the power level is obviously there
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Sep 16, 2019 23:58
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gonna need a mickey mouse edit on that broom
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Sep 16, 2019 23:59
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Oh yeah, bet they wish they hadn't blown their Disney cross-promotion with Sorcerer's Apprentice already. gently caress, Disney and Hasbro deserve each other.
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Sep 17, 2019 00:01
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Hm, yes, a card with graveyard-based cost reduction that lets you cheat out creatures, two things that have never once been good in card game Magic: the Gathering. Surely this card will be awful and completely unplayable.  Anyway, here's the Drown in the Loch enabler. And his broom.   e:f;b
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Sep 17, 2019 00:01
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The Cauldron isn't a four-of, but it is enough value in the late game that it will likely see play in some midrange creature strategy.
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Sep 17, 2019 00:03
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AlternateNu posted:The Cauldron isn't a four-of, but it is enough value in the late game that it will likely see play in some midrange creature strategy. why would they play that instead of command the dreadhorde?
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Sep 17, 2019 00:20
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Overwhelmed apprentice is a really cool and good card
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Sep 17, 2019 00:22
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little munchkin posted:why would they play that instead of command the dreadhorde? life points, dodging unmoored ego, using in addition to Command, etc etc
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Sep 17, 2019 00:29
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What do you mean by "dodges unmoored ego" ?
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Sep 17, 2019 00:36
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little munchkin posted:why would they play that instead of command the dreadhorde? The big three reasons are saving life points; it can be used a turn or two earlier; and it can piecemeal your threats against control decks so they all don't die to a single sweeper.
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Sep 17, 2019 00:42
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salt shakeup posted:What do you mean by "dodges unmoored ego" ? The Cauldron of Eternity and Command the Dreadhorde have different card names.
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Sep 17, 2019 00:43
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I suppose it is true that your opponent can’t unmoored ego your dreadhordes if you’re playing this instead
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Sep 17, 2019 00:45
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salt shakeup posted:What do you mean by "dodges unmoored ego" ? People will forget the "The" and then you can be like gotcha  (I don't know how these rules work)
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Sep 17, 2019 00:47
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GrandpaPants posted:People will forget the "The" and then you can be like gotcha as long as you're able to clearly and uniquely identify the card in question, you're good. You could even say something like "the 12 mana artifact that gets cheaper for dead creatures and lets you bring things back" and you're probably fine also I assume Command is going to be worse post-rotation since you will no longer be able to get back Wildgrowth Walker and a pile of explore dudes but I don't actually play standard
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Sep 17, 2019 00:51
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It dodges Unmoored Ego by being a second card in your deck that doesn't fall apart if they Unmoored Ego your Command, are you guys for real?
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:It dodges Unmoored Ego by being a second card in your deck that doesn't fall apart if they Unmoored Ego your Command, are you guys for real? People really want new cards to be good to the point of silliness.
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Sep 17, 2019 01:07
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Toshimo posted:Nah. This isn't good in any of those. It's junk. Sorry, did I say “good”? What I meant was “fun to use in a super trash janky deck to play against your super trash janky commander friends.” Forgot to qualify my statement when talking about commander.
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Sickening posted:People really want new cards to be good to the point of silliness. Decks diversifying analogous cards to play around hate pieces - a thing that is most definitely not done in every format.
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Sep 17, 2019 01:24
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If historic is a real format then this is going to be in it with Stitcher's Supplier so thats something
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the cauldron is bad, guys. i don't know why we're having this conversation. yes, it is castable for BB most of the time. most of the time, it's a sorcery that reads "2BBB, pay two life, reanimate a dude." That is a slow-rear end card. Yes, you will usually be able to activate it a few times, but you have to kind of build your deck around it, and reanimation decks tend to win by reanimating a huge gently caress-off threat that ends the game FAST. you could play a black-based reanimator deck that plays a variety of enablers to fill your yard, then play this... or you could play something like the Drakuseth Reanimator decks that exist now. which can go off much more explosively (since their reanimates cost 5 regardless of how diligently you've stocked your yard, and one of them even grants haste), and also don't require you to play lots of creatures. if the cauldron does anything interesting in any format-- possible, but unlikely-- it'll be as a 12CMC card that can be cast for BB. that's what's interesting about the card, the rest of it is trinket text.
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:It dodges Unmoored Ego by being a second card in your deck that doesn't fall apart if they Unmoored Ego your Command, are you guys for real? Kind of a spurious point to make so I was checking I didn't miss something. Magic is hard.
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