NoneMoreNegative posted:

Schadenboner posted:

Wait, is the Mythical Man Month ESR?

Soricidus posted:

this is true, but I feel like more people have taken rms seriously. despite the declining importance of gnu, it has at least produced a bunch of worthwhile software that’s still widely used, whereas esr was a one-hit wonder with a book nobody remembers anything about but the title.

plus rms generally managing to come across as harmlessly eccentric whereas esr was always creepy

Soricidus posted:

freedom from censorship does not mean freedom from consequences

hobbesmaster posted:

also that "eight megs and constantly swapping" thing

rotor posted:

(overreliance on key chording is what makes emacs a bad editor lol)

Broken Machine posted:

i wonder if he's going to keep staying in his broom closet at mit, now that he's just some random gross dude squatting there

Lutha Mahtin posted:

iirc he got that genius grant money decades ago and lives off the investment. this sounds believable to me because it's clear the guy doesn't care much for fine clothes, expensive toys, etc

Gazpacho posted:

gpl is horrible insofar as it comes wrapped in the ideology that demonizes any legal framework under which people who write software for the general public might get paid

Gazpacho posted:

I lifted my head from its grass pillow and eyed the bee as it crawled along the dark veins of my shaft, as if following a directional line like you get in a public hospital. I may have emitted a faint ‘hmm’ of intrigue, a natural reaction for I’d yet to see a fellow human, let alone flying insect, crawl along my penis.

It may have been the ‘hmm’ what spooked the bee. I have thought long and hard about this moment and, certainly, having reached the glans, the bee’s demeanour changed. Flaneur, enjoying a perambulation ’pon my johnson, instantly turned stinger. The cruellest metamorphosis. I remember distinctly the determined shudder of movement with which the bee planted its rear stinger, an insect twerk, within the soft purple flesh of my bell-end.

There was no moment of clarity, no flash of my sex life before my eyes — instead instant pain radiated like a gently caress tsunami from my very centre and across every nerve-end I possessed. Even my eyes, two of them, felt like they were burning. The bee died, its tiny form at one with my member. And my bollocks shrank as if in sympathy.

I am told that an off-duty bee keeper threw half a bottle of warm Dr Pepper across my privates, relieving the pain a little. A doctor was passing, as often they are at moments of disaster. He removed the spent bee from my penis with a pair of tweezers. Barely conscious, my head lolling, I was told to seek solace in paracetamol and to avoid masturbation for a good three days at the very least. It was this last piece of advice that saw my consciousness, in shock, break from the prison of pain. I thanked the good doctor and accepted the help of a bee-keeper, who assured me that she was female, in gingerly replacing my clothing. I tried not to look at the angry boil, reminiscent of a strawberry bubblegum bubble, that had already begun to swell upon my little chap’s purple crown.

rotor posted:

You should not write open source code at all. If you absolutely must, please license it under GPL3.

rotor posted:

the GPL is the only mainstream open source license that isn't just volunteer work for startups

If you want to sell software, sell software. GPL ain't stoppin' you. What's stopping you is all the other motherfuckers cloning your poo poo and giving it away free for any use at all.

rotor posted:

You should not write open source code at all. If you absolutely must, please license it under GPL3.

Lutha Mahtin posted:

If I am going to release some dumb-rear end hobby code of mine online, I am going to do it with something like the Affero GPL3. This has many advantages:
- Nobody will use my product. This ensures that I never have to listen to whiny, entitled users.
- Corollary to the first point, nobody will file bug reports. Thus I can spend my free time relaxing, with no embarrassing public bugs to my name
- It will scare away all the ESR lolbertarian types. Good fuckin' riddance.
- However, using this license might actually attract the RMS creepers. No problem boss, all I gotta do then is just copy and paste a basic "don't be creepy" Code of Conduct from some other project. Boom, problem solved.

hobbesmaster posted:

also that "eight megs and constantly swapping" thing

Lutha Mahtin posted:

you are aware this is the funy computer forum right

Gazpacho posted:

i suspect that the linus takedown was influenced by vendor politics surrounding the rotten way he behaved during the spectre episode

BobHoward posted:

i missed this background to the Linus thing, got any pointers to more? i didn’t pay much attention, thought that maybe he finally noticed how toxic he was on his own

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I’m just wondering if anybody cared for the man and his work. I do and basically owe my life to it, so I care for the man in his time of need.
I hope he understands and knows that I care.
Because I do and you should as well.
Even the iPhone has a free heart in Mach.
These idiot trolls must be stopped.

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I don't know the man. I don't know what is in his heart. He doesn't need, nor hopefully want, my support. I know of his advocacy, and I've read what he said in email recently that got him into trouble. I dislike the culture we've built that requires we tear down any sort of heterodoxy, no matter how mild. But I also know I shouldn't engage in public conversation or written discussion about child rape of any kind. it is folly. So I ask you, Burton: What is your objective? If it is merely to support RMS personally, message him. By posting here, it seems more to be provocative online and I therefore must question your motives. Certainly you must have been able to expect the standard array of responses to such a post... so were you looking for any one in particular that you can engage in? I can formulate a few. I just don't think it's worth any more time.

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I do not worship false idols but I am there for friends in need. Good luck on your search for humanism. I hope you are thrown into the fire someday to see how it feels.

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How is it we value free speech, but there are certain discussions you just cannot have, even in a rational and measured way, without risking making yourself completely unemployable. You should be able to have a questionable viewpoint in a discussion, without worrying about the lynch mob ending your career.
The consequences here are out of line. You can be reprimanded to take your discussions to a non company venue, in a situation like this, but fired is over the top.
Stallman said “it is morally absurd to define ‘rape’ in a way that depends on minor details such as which country it was in or whether the victim was 18 years old or 17.”
It's pretty clear with the age difference being what it is, this is exactly what statutory rape laws are for. But it is also incongruous that somehow if she was a year older it would be ok. It's also hosed up that if Minsky were 19, the consequences would be the same. Maybe there's a better law to be had here, but how would we ever know if you can't even have the discussion?
I'm appalled by how free speech is under attack lately by the outrage machine.

Lain Iwakura posted:

there needs to be a database for people who defend pedophilia online

Lain Iwakura posted:

there needs to be a database for people who defend pedophilia online

Hexyflexy posted:

Just BSD it, nobody cares, it's just there, some kid might find it interesting. And do something cool. Or not.

e: You don't get to pick if the kid does something cool or not, that's what pissed me off about the GPL 20 years ago.

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This has been said before, but free speech is beyond just government censorship and has a wider definition. Regardless of that, the idea that someone's livelihood is under threat due to their speech can be just as coercive as threatening a fine or jail for their speech. The idea that government chilling is someone kinder than private chilling is wrong.

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But my freedom of speech should trump your freedom to spin up angry Internet mobs that proceed to turn my words into lies that they use to rip my life apart.
Time will come there will be regulations aiming to fix that, because slander laws apparently aren't enough. And then people will come out and talk about freedom of speech, but the only answer will be, "you had it, and you misused it, and almost ripped the society apart".

Lain Iwakura posted:

psiox posted:

i don't really remember the context around linus' sabbatical but at least the dude is just garden variety vociferous/abrasive. or at least i'm not aware of him bumping it up to chud factor five