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Laranzu posted:1660ti Hulu in chrome. It streamed the entirety of a movie perfectly fine after the lock too so it's not reproducible easily. It could have been the ryzen master profile, too. I'm not familiar with those.
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Burno posted:Forgive me for bringing this back up - its a couple pages back, but I did just get the newest ABBA bios and decided to try the 1.6.2 DRAM Calculator settings and I was able to tighten timings even further with lower voltage. It does seem like the CAD Bus resistances play a major part in that, so the timings and voltage seem to work, even though it might seem crazy. Adding a bit: in the meanwhile I tried the settings from 1.6.2 on ABB and they didn't work as written, RAM just wouldn't POST. I installed ABBA yesterday but couldn't yet find the time to mess around with the settings. I'm pretty sure the end result will, of course, depend on the individual stick of memory.
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TorakFade posted:Even then, some light usually bleeds out of the back, and if the back's against a white wall it can be quite visible in the dark. Less so under a desk.. really, it's no big deal, but if you want no lights at all you should be able to just turn them off and a hardware switch would be much better than having to install software (and not even that expensive for manufacturers I believe). Fair. I'm also pretty light-tolerant, apparently? People complain about sleeping in our guest room because all the lights from the computer case and router are too much for them, but I'm just glad to have them when I get up to pee - don't want to step in the cat box on the way 
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peepsalot posted:Does anyone know if/how all this BIOS boost fuckery AMD has been up to for Zen 2 affects Zen+ (2700X) in any way? Should I take a chance on ABBA? Supposedly AMD reverted the reduction in throttle temp so it should work fine but ymmv. For Zen/Zen+ users I don’t really see a compelling version to move off the last stable BIOS into Zen2 territory.
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It's very back and forth by the sound of it, with a compounding issue that AMD are trying to handle a situation where they're getting crap over misleading clocks in their marketing so who knows what corners they'll cut trying to appease people. I'm on my last decent Zen+ version. It's like GPU drivers; if everything's working and running fine, there's no reason to upgrade. Also all your settings get reset.
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peepsalot posted:Should I take a chance on ABBA? If you change your mind, i'm the first in line. Honey, I'm still free.
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Khorne posted:It's most likely memory. If you have XMP set, just up DRAM voltage around .03V higher than XMP sets it. That's probably around 1.38V for most 3200 kits. It's the micron E die Crucial Ballistics Sport LT 2x16gb kit. I bumped it to 1.38v.
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TSMC is having capacity problems with their 7nm process. I guess this could make it difficult for AMD to produce as many Zen 2 and rDNA chips as the need?
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peepsalot posted:Does anyone know if/how all this BIOS boost fuckery AMD has been up to for Zen 2 affects Zen+ (2700X) in any way? Should I take a chance on ABBA? The first few bios revisions after Ryzen 2 showed a performance regression for Ryzen and Ryzen +, haven’t heard much about how ABBA is for them. If everything is stable for you I’d just stay put.
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well, I finally got that computer with the Ryzen 3800 in it and, compared to the Phenom II, this thing is so wildly fast, I can't even believe it 
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Still testing it out, so nothing definitive: But I think my Nvidia crashing issues might have been due to some weird Edge bug; the latest Canary build (bleeding-edge dev version) released today so far hasn't crashed. I'll update the thread as soon as I know more. And the Netflix app, weirdly, seems to crash only when Edge is running as well. Haven't gotten it to crash in conjunction with Chrome. Probably best to switch back to Chrome for the moment, until Edge is further in development and more stable. Of course, it's also possible I just got lucky so far. Lambert fucked around with this message at 01:08 on Sep 19, 2019 |
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Victory Position posted:well, I finally got that computer with the Ryzen 3800 in it and, compared to the Phenom II, this thing is so wildly fast, I can't even believe it Oh it's not just the speed but rather all the poo poo you can load the CPU with and still have it feel fast.
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Problem: Now my laptop with a Skylake i7-6600U (15 W TDP) feels even more slow as molasses.
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Lambert posted:Problem: Now my laptop with a Skylake i7-6600U (15 W TDP) feels even more slow as molasses. I have a dell 7470 with i7-5600U. Its blazing fast compared to the T5500 core2duo laptop it replaced. So just go use a 13 year old PC for a bit. Serious answer though, I had tried playing age of empires 2 after it was in sleep mode for a while. Game crawled. Rebooted it, and it went perfectly smooth. Might try that if you usually just close the lid on it.
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It's a pretty thin 13" Asus Zenbook, so I think it's just thermally limited even at the low TDP it has. Shouldn't be dusty, because I opened it up about half a year ago to clean it. Also, after many hours of testing (previously, crashes would happen about every 30 minutes), I'm now calling it: Edge Insider was the culprit. Whenever Edge was open, crashes would happen with Netflix playback. The latest Canary build seems to fix the issue, but I'm going back to Chrome until final release anyways. Too many bugs.
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Khorne posted:It's most likely memory. If you have XMP set, just up DRAM voltage around .03V higher than XMP sets it. That's probably around 1.38V for most 3200 kits. Two days. No crashes. Think it was the XMP voltage.
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Combat Pretzel posted:So apparently 3rd gen Threadrippers start at 24 cores. yes please Where is that info from?
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taqueso posted:yes please Direct from AMD. Also, delayed to November. https://pcper.com/2019/09/3950x-delayed-november-3rd-gen-threadripper/
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Base model at 24 cores? Hell yeah. The 3950X is already more expensive than the 2920X launch price, hopefully the 32C/64T model won't be more than $1,200. I'm extremely horny for this release 
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I know we keep expecting ASRock to make a Mini-ITX TR4 board, but what if and hear me out, ASRock makes a Mini-STX TR4 motherboard with an integrated GPU?
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EmpyreanFlux posted:I know we keep expecting ASRock to make a Mini-ITX TR4 board, but what if and hear me out, ASRock makes a Mini-STX TR4 motherboard with an integrated GPU? Couldn't we all save a lot of time and money if they just put ram slots and a CPU socket on the GPU? 
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EmpyreanFlux posted:I know we keep expecting ASRock to make a Mini-ITX TR4 board, but what if and hear me out, ASRock makes a Mini-STX TR4 motherboard with an integrated GPU? I saw a mini-DTX board for Ryzen from Asus the other day. At this point, anything seems possible.
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https://twitter.com/TUM_APISAK/status/1174892806453649413 Microsoft Surface event is October 2nd.
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I hear they fixed the power consumption woes on 2xxxU series chips too. These chips idle way lower than Raven Ridge did. Guess the desktop chips weren't the only ones to feel the benefits of a more refined boost algorithm. Can't wait until AMD gets mobile onto 7nm, even with no Navi it's gonna be pretty great. I never thought about the power advantages of going monolithic for ULV chips, those off-chiplet serdes links are expensive in terms of power. If AMD stays monolithic (like raven ridge/picasso) then that keeps power even lower compared to desktop Zen2. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 03:46 on Sep 21, 2019 |
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At the same time, it's still using Vega. I think they should have really pushed to get RDNA into these things for the PPW boost and decreased dependence on memory bandwidth, unless they're like... gonna slap a stack of HBM in there somewhere. Please dear god, I just want something that's not loving HD 620/630 anymore! Like, I refuse to spend any amount of money on anything that has 620/630 silicon in it. Intel, HURRY THE gently caress UP.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Please dear god, I just want something that's not loving HD 620/630 anymore! Like, I refuse to spend any amount of money on anything that has 620/630 silicon in it. Intel, HURRY THE gently caress UP.
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Budzilla posted:Has Intel ever delivered good integrated graphics?
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Budzilla posted:Has Intel ever delivered good integrated graphics? Like, Iris graphics, but those involved embedding DRAM into the chip, are loving expensive AF, and Intel has just been sitting around with their thumbs up their asses milking the poo poo out of their old silicon. You know, like goddamn everything else they did for the past five years. Have some wholly unscientific, but still demonstrative benchmark results pulled from PCWorld's database comparing old and current Intel iGPUs to Ice Lake.  chart source: https://www.pcworld.com/article/3429657/intel-gen-11-graphics-improvement-in-10th-gen-ice-lake-cpu.html Except we're almost at the end of September, and I ain't seen poo poo yet. Like I am angry. I intended to get my brother a new laptop before he had to go back to teaching, but there ain't poo poo out there in the thin-and-light market that's worth my time. Like, if there were an Ice Lake refresh of the LG Gram, and I don't have to wait until January for that, I'd be all over that poo poo for him. SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Sep 21, 2019 |
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SwissArmyDruid posted:At the same time, it's still using Vega. I think they should have really pushed to get RDNA into these things for the PPW boost and decreased dependence on memory bandwidth, unless they're like... gonna slap a stack of HBM in there somewhere. It's real weird, the only obvious reason to use Vega would be because they don't want to backport RDNA because they're putting the gpu on the IO die but chiplet designs don't seem to scale well once you get down to ~15W.
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Arzachel posted:It's real weird, the only obvious reason to use Vega would be because they don't want to backport RDNA because they're putting the gpu on the IO die but chiplet designs don't seem to scale well once you get down to ~15W. It's unclear if they will move to IO die on mobile or not when the zen2 mobile chips drop next year. I'm surprised Microsoft went with it. I thought this would be a surface change when zen2 hit. The vega IGPU trades blows with the ice lake IGPU. For desktop tasks they're both great, and for gaming it depends on the game which comes out ahead.I haven't seen productivity benchmarks. It's a big achievement for Intel to catch up and even slightly surpass AMD's igpu. Ice Lake's CPU performs better. Not much to say there. Zen+ getting beat by an architecture with better IPC than zen2 isn't surprising. The 3xxx series mobile chips are way cheaper than ice lake and perform close enough. That might be why microsoft went with them. Judging by ice lake laptop prices, it's a massive difference in price for negligible performance difference. For RDNA, AMD struggled to get it out the door on desktop. We'll see what happens with the 4XXX series. There were some rumors it will still be Vega. Khorne fucked around with this message at 13:41 on Sep 21, 2019 |
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Like I am angry. I intended to get my brother a new laptop before he had to go back to teaching, but there ain't poo poo out there in the thin-and-light market that's worth my time. There are plenty of amazing thin and lights, I dunno what you're waiting for. Ice Lake is gonna be a decent speed bump but the IGP is still worse than an MX150. If you're waiting for an ultrabook that can do current games at 1080p, you're gonna be waiting forever. Get your bro a laptop, be a bro.
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:There are plenty of amazing thin and lights, I dunno what you're waiting for. Ice Lake is gonna be a decent speed bump but the IGP is still worse than an MX150. If you're waiting for an ultrabook that can do current games at 1080p, you're gonna be waiting forever. Get your bro a laptop, be a bro. Won't be waiting that long at all; the 3.2 pound blade stealth with a 1650 should be out in a few months.
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:There are plenty of amazing thin and lights, I dunno what you're waiting for. Ice Lake is gonna be a decent speed bump but the IGP is still worse than an MX150. If you're waiting for an ultrabook that can do current games at 1080p, you're gonna be waiting forever. Get your bro a laptop, be a bro. Especially because comments like that get made whenever news of a new processor or GPU or whatever comes out. Technology is always getting better. If you need something, buy something. If you don't need something, don't buy something.
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VorpalFish posted:Won't be waiting that long at all; the 3.2 pound blade stealth with a 1650 should be out in a few months. Well let's hold out for the thermals on that one, but I'm cautiously optimistic. edit: tbh I'm not sure I understand the market segment that wants to play Control at 20 fps on a 13" display and is willing to spend two grand to do it, but it'll be super cool if they pull it off. Dr. Fishopolis fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Sep 21, 2019 |
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:Well let's hold out for the thermals on that one, but I'm cautiously optimistic. I'm the market segment; I'm willing to do medium settings, but the blade 14 I have now is big enough that it annoys me. I want something that I can game on, use comfortably in bed, bring with me wherever and whenever without thinking about it and I'm willing to pay what that combination of portability and power costs. It's a niche market for sure, but it does exist. Edit: since this is the amd thread, I was also hoping for a hypothetical 14cu navi / zen2 based apu with hbm that could fill the ultralight gaming niche as well, but it doesn't seem likely that that's going to exist 
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