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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Never had meat waved in my face but if you so much as order a vegetarian option at an omnivorous restaurant there’s a good chance an acquaintance will need to either start cracking not-at-all tired jokes or even better, try to debate you about how actually vegetarians are dumb and you are a hypocrite because you also use soap or whatever. You need to hang around less lovely people. If I ever order veg or vegan nobody says anything, because we are adults. People eat less meat for lots of reasons, dietary restrictions, moral reasons, weight control, religious observances. If you are around people that feel the need to debate your choices about food (meat eater or vegetarian), you need to  Because gently caress that hassle.
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Indolent Bastard posted:You need to hang around less lovely people. If I ever order veg or vegan nobody says anything, because we are adults. People eat less meat for lots of reasons, dietary restrictions, moral reasons, weight control, religious observances. If you are around people that feel the need to debate your choices about food (meat eater or vegetarian), you need to Yeah, my biggest reaction to a vegetarian reminding me that they don't eat meat has been "oh, that's right, sorry"
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i just have way more empathy for vegetarians/vegans since i respect the fact that they actually changed their behavior based on their principles, and arent just coming up with excuses not to change (like most of the people who get pissy at them speaking up)
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like yeah there's no objective net positive in the world from eating meat, in fact yeah we can all definitively say that eating meat is pretty clearly causing harm to the planet. does that mean im going to stop eating meat? no because of various reasons (that arent really even that good) does that mean i need to rationalize my behavior by attacking the people who made a decision and are doing less harm than me? also no, because projecting your insecurities on to other people is what loving children do
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Sep 18, 2019 18:51
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but gently caress it, if you've decided to have weird baggage about vegans/vegetarians than fine whatever, im just some random goon on a dead gay comedy forum who cant change that
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Sep 18, 2019 18:57
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I invited people over for a bbq and one of the guys informed me he was a vegetarian. So I got vegetarian baked beans instead of the normal kind and got a few other things without meat. He also brought vegan ribs that turned out to actually be really good and everyone had a great meal. There was also meat, but he just didn't eat it. There was no drama and everyone had a great time, because we're adults who don't care what others eat, but are happy to accommodate.
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Kanine posted:but gently caress it, if you've decided to have weird baggage about vegans/vegetarians than fine whatever, im just some random goon on a dead gay comedy forum who cant change that Like I don’t really have a dog in this fight, I’ve known wonderful people and lovely people on both sides of that conversation, but you are the one triple-posting about it... My current pet peeve are speed limits. I get it, but it’s a wide open highway and it’s bone dry outside, why aren’t we going 85
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MightyJoe36 posted:I've never seen or heard of anyone doing that to a vegetarian/vegan, internet anecdotes notwithstanding. I have had personal experience with preachy and militant vegans (one even vehemently refused my Thanksgiving invitation because I dared to serve meat). They also tend to be pretty preachy about anything they feel they are in the right about. Two of them were also antivaxxers. Vegetarians are just clearly right: meat is the murder of innocent animals and bad in every way. There's really no arguing with it, they are correct and others are in denial. I eat meat like once a week, down from once a day when I was a kid, but it's hard to cut that final bit when there's things like serrano ham and omi beef out there and you grew up with meat. But life is not easy and we're alienated from the way meat is produced in such a way that makes it difficult to recognize it for what it is and what it does, same as with smoking or any other addiction really. The way I see it the best way to get people to stop eating so much meat is to get them off lovely meat first, since it's the kind that's produced in bulk and under the worst circumstances. Things like tasteless bits of supermarket chicken, processed sausages, things that taste bad. Get people to develop a taste for more natural types of meat first and they might reject the cheap bulk poo poo and eat meat less overall since the cheap stuff is not worth it when you know what it's supposed to taste like.
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Sep 18, 2019 21:10
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MightyJoe36 posted:I've never seen or heard of anyone doing that to a vegetarian/vegan, internet anecdotes notwithstanding. I have had personal experience with preachy and militant vegans (one even vehemently refused my Thanksgiving invitation because I dared to serve meat). They also tend to be pretty preachy about anything they feel they are in the right about. Two of them were also antivaxxers. I only know two vegans as far as I know and they switched because of health concerns. Doctors supposedly couldn't help even after extensive testing, but their crystal lady (I don't know what this kind of person is typically called, but she deals with power crystal bullshit) recommended going vegan and try alkaline water. So they spent thousands of dollars on an alkaline water setup for their tap water and went vegan and the dude is in much better health now. Weird how cutting out 99% of fast food results in better health! Unfortunately this alkaline water crap sent them down a weird road and now they're also antivaxxers. Big time Trump supporters too. These were two of our closest friends for a long time but now we can barely hang out without getting into pretty heated arguments. My wife and I eat meat, get vaccinations/boosters as necessary, do not buy into psuedoscience bullshit, and are mostly liberal in our politics. It's kind of heart breaking but I imagine it's not that uncommon for groups of friends to grow apart as they get older and start having opinions on things instead of just getting shitfaced together every weekend.
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All this talk of eating vegetarian reminded me of one of my peeves: I really hate the poo poo people will give you for being male and ordering a salad as a meal. It's like it activates this really lovely nexus of misogyny, toxic masculinity, and homophobia in some people's minds, and they just can't help but judge your sexual orientation because they see you eating greens. Edit: For clarity Chip McFuck has a new favorite as of 21:47 on Sep 18, 2019 |
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Sep 18, 2019 21:40
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I once tried vegetarian but he was far too lean so wasn't very satisfying to bite into.
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Chip McFuck posted:All this talk of eating vegetarian reminded me of one of my peeves: I really hate the poo poo people will give you for being male and ordering a salad as a meal. It's like it activates this really lovely nexus of misogyny, toxic masculinity, and homophobia in some people's minds, and they just can't help but judge your sexual orientation because they see you eating greens. I have experienced this, which is super weird because I have barbecue and beer and all that poo poo that's supposedly masculine, but the moment I want some roughage so I can physically manage to take a poo poo I'm gay? Okay, enjoy your hour-long beef shits, real men.
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Sep 18, 2019 22:01
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I hate when you've accidentally created a supernaturally-strong vacuum at the bottom of a garbage can by trying to take out the garbage-filled bag. It seems the only option is to basically flail about trying to get it out (by yourself or with some equally-unlucky sod), wondering why nobody has invented some sort of small device that would push a puff of air back into the drat thing. Like how there's canned air for blowing dust off PCs and poo poo.
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I hate when I try to look up a business and click their website (especially a restaurant) and their operating hours are not front and loving center. Look, you idiot businesspeople, what are people probably looking up your lovely website for? If you're a restaurant: menu and operating hours. What can I eat, and when can I eat it. FRONT and CENTER. Don't make me dig through your lovely website to find what time you open and especially don't make me call you to find out. If I wanted to ask a real human this information, I wouldn't have turned to Google first. And speaking of Google, yeah Google often has your operating hours front and center on the results but I don't know how accurate that is.
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Brawnfire posted:I have experienced this, which is super weird because I have barbecue and beer and all that poo poo that's supposedly masculine, but the moment I want some roughage so I can physically manage to take a poo poo I'm gay? Okay, enjoy your hour-long beef shits, real men. That reminds me, there was about a year where I was fully vegan except once a week me and buddy would get shitfaced at a bar after our longest college lab and I'd eat either a burger or a bunch of wings. 1. Man those weekly meat shits after a diet of mostly plants were a real good remind to eat a vegetable or take your metamucil, drat. 2. It was amazing how annoyed my friends would get at my choice to do that. Like, I don't see anyone claiming that you must either cycle everywhere or buy a coal-rolling truck, no in betweens or you're a hypocrite, but by god we gotta make sure all the vegans are perfect.
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MisterBibs posted:I hate when you've accidentally created a supernaturally-strong vacuum at the bottom of a garbage can by trying to take out the garbage-filled bag. It seems the only option is to basically flail about trying to get it out (by yourself or with some equally-unlucky sod), wondering why nobody has invented some sort of small device that would push a puff of air back into the drat thing. Like how there's canned air for blowing dust off PCs and poo poo. Why aren't there just a few small holes at the bottom of garbage bins?
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Kanine posted:vegetarians/vegans have to deal with a relatively strong, regular background noise of people being assholes to them about their personal choices. so it balances out with any statistical outliers of vegetarians/vegans being outwardly pushy about their beliefs. Right on the money. I actually kind of admire people who stick to their principals. Speaking of which, do vegans/vegetarians also have cheat days like the rest of us?
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Midig posted:Speaking of which, do vegans/vegetarians also have cheat days like the rest of us? When I go to the chinese buffet I will have one (1) chicken ball as a treat. But, I also am a vegetarian for environmental rather than ethical reasons, so I figure takigg a tiny dent out of meat that's already been bought and cooked isn't the greatest crime I could commit
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Shibawanko posted:Why aren't there just a few small holes at the bottom of garbage bins? So they don't leak garbage juice on your floor?
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Midig posted:Right on the money. I actually kind of admire people who stick to their principals. Speaking of which, do vegans/vegetarians also have cheat days like the rest of us? I'm vegan and only really cheat when moving/traveling. After hauling a furniture down a few flights of stairs and driving for ten hours, I'm not really in the mood to refuse a slice of pizza or something. Or, if you're in another country and theres a language barrier at a restaurant, it's a lot easier to order to point to something on the menu than it is to try and ascertain if there is any animal products in it. Chip McFuck has a new favorite as of 23:30 on Sep 18, 2019 |
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Sep 18, 2019 22:42
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Shibawanko posted:Why aren't there just a few small holes at the bottom of garbage bins? I've seen them on some bins, but gently caress if it actually helps at all. 
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I cut the entire bottom out of my bin and flipped it over so it's basically just a frame for holding bags and it's way easier. Instead of lifting the bag out, I can just lift the bin up and away from the bag.
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Sep 18, 2019 22:56
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Chip McFuck posted:All this talk of eating vegetarian reminded me of one of my peeves: I really hate the poo poo people will give you for being male and ordering a salad as a meal. It's like it activates this really lovely nexus of misogyny, toxic masculinity, and homophobia in some people's minds, and they just can't help but judge your sexual orientation because they see you eating greens. Counterpoint: salad is not a meal unless it's one of those "salads" that's really just a pile of protein on top of a couple of lettuce leaves (which is usually the best thing to order if you're trying to lose weight). Greens may seem to fill you up now, but the snack you eat two hours later more than negates any health benefits from your lunch.
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lavaca posted:Counterpoint: salad is not a meal unless it's one of those "salads" that's really just a pile of protein on top of a couple of lettuce leaves (which is usually the best thing to order if you're trying to lose weight). Greens may seem to fill you up now, but the snack you eat two hours later more than negates any health benefits from your lunch. crazy fact: people eat multiple meals in a day and some wild folks understand things like portion control and "waiting until dinner instead of gorging as soon as they feel slightly hungry." others even eat small, macro-appropriate snacks to stave off annoying hunger, and then eat a smaller meal later! source: i lift successfully, eat a leafy salad with next-to-no protein BUT WITH a huge splash of fatty dressing almost every day for lunch, but get 140g of protein a day, while vegetarian. and somehow make gains even at my manlet height without getting fat.
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Sep 19, 2019 05:51
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The word "salad" is meaningless. Grated cabbage? Salad. Pasta? Salad. Sausages and onions? Salad. Assorted fruits? Salad. Mayonnaise and marshmallows? Salad. Cheese and jelly? Salad. Everything's a salad.
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Sure, but when people are referring to "A Salad" you usually know that involved a plate of leafy greens plus other stuff.
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it pissed me off when someone obviously hates fat people but tries to cloak it behind "oh i just care about their health bloo hoo"
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DontMockMySmock posted:So they don't leak garbage juice on your floor? They don't need to be at the very bottom, just a few cm up would be enough to prevent the stupid vacuum garbage bag stuff
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Sep 19, 2019 07:31
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when i get loving fruit flies in the tomatoes i bought the day before yesterday gently caress this
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Sep 19, 2019 07:33
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Kanine posted:when i get loving fruit flies in the tomatoes i bought the day before yesterday gently caress this I loving feel you. I tried for like twenty minutes today while I was doing dishes to will myself to kill them telepathically but no dice I made a trap instead but it probably won’t work
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:crazy fact: people eat multiple meals in a day and some wild folks understand things like portion control and "waiting until dinner instead of gorging as soon as they feel slightly hungry." You are a tiny minority. As evidence, I submit any corporate lunch room in America.
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sephiRoth IRA posted:I loving feel you. I tried for like twenty minutes today while I was doing dishes to will myself to kill them telepathically but no dice what usually works for me is just mixing vinegar with a little bit of dish soap and leaving that out in a cup
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Shibawanko posted:Vegetarians are just clearly right: meat is the murder of innocent animals and bad in every way. There's really no arguing with it, they are correct and others are in denial. Sounds like a King of the Hill episode.
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Online retailers that make you register an account and go to checkout to find out their delivery costs. gently caress you.
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Sunswipe posted:Online retailers that make you register an account and go to checkout to find out their delivery costs. gently caress you. (Which also leads them to sending you like half a dozen HEY YOU FORGOT ABOUT YOUR PRODUCT! HEY DID YOU FORGET ABOUT US? HEY IF YOU STOP IGNORING US WE'LL GIVE YOU A TRIVIAL DISCOUNT! emails. And auto-sign you up to every email-advertisement subscription they have.)
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Sep 19, 2019 12:56
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I hate people who smoke in public places in general but I ESPECIALLY hate people who smoke at bus stops. I don't want to inhale your poo poo while I wait for the bus, gently caress off
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Sep 19, 2019 13:13
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I hate when people smoke when it's damp out like in the rain or on a humid day, because the smoke just gets caught in the moisture and sticks around all day.
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Sep 19, 2019 13:19
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Shibawanko posted:Why aren't there just a few small holes at the bottom of garbage bins? My roommate and I use a laundry hamper in the kitchen similar to this:  Except ours has a hinged lid, just put a 30 gallon trash bag in that bitch and call it good. The only downside is that occasionally when there's a lot of bulky poo poo it'll catch on the holes.
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Butt Detective posted:I hate people who smoke in public places in general but I ESPECIALLY hate people who smoke at bus stops. I don't want to inhale your poo poo while I wait for the bus, gently caress off On the bright side, the bus is guaranteed to come the instant one of those people lights up their cigarette.
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