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I started playing again after a pretty long break. It is a pretty chill game still and there seems to be a bit less salt
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The most shameful of Zeratuls.
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Sep 17, 2019 19:20
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There's probably less salt because no one good plays it anymore. Less people raging at objectively awful teammates.
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Sep 17, 2019 19:34
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If someone is raging in QM they probably aren't very good.
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Sep 17, 2019 19:55
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My suggestions in game are probably seen as salt. I just want people to go to objective or lane instead of dicking around until we lose.
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Sep 17, 2019 20:18
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I always beeline to the obj and stand around waiting for the timer to go down. Then I frantically type gg obj?? After I get ganked.
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Sep 17, 2019 20:29
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I do follow the "whatever it is your team is doing, do it together" idea but sometimes you can just tell they don't know what to do. Some people aren't willing to follow but don't have any ideas. Its frustrating.
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Sep 18, 2019 14:53
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One of the issues is that typically people in this game are such confrontational jerks any sort of advice comes off as an attack because that's what you have been conditioned to expect. You really have to be careful since it's possible to set anyone off when they have just been screamed at by some guy that went on to throw because that person wasn't playing right in a previous game. I don't think there's really a solution since blizzard games really attract this sort of negativity outside of just being overwhelmingly cheerful at the start of matches (this has actually worked for me and gotten some people to come back mid melt down). Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 15:16 on Sep 18, 2019 |
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Sep 18, 2019 15:13
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One of my favorite beginning lines that I've read in chat was "Good luck, have fun until we start losing and yelling at each other."
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Sep 18, 2019 15:40
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Grimdude posted:There's probably less salt because no one good plays it anymore. Less people raging at objectively awful teammates. Yeah, after a bunch more games I'm going to say everyone is QM is garbage. I am too, but as long as I'm able to pull off a few cool or funny tricks each game I'll keep playing. And some of the poo poo that happens just makes me laugh out loud, like the game where three and then later four hapless enemies got deleted by our team's Zarya/Feenix beam combo.
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It's funny because while I most enjoy playing exciting Assassins or Bruisers like Nova or Artanis, I've come to terms with the fact that I have a much better time playing heroes like Azmodan or Stitches where I have enough range or health to be independent enough to have fun regardless of how competent my team is.
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Sep 19, 2019 02:34
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I loved pre nerf Nova and to a lesser extent Stitches because I could heavily punish people who were out of position, but they kind of destroyed her. The hell is the point of a hero with less utility and escapes who does the same burst damage and worst sustain than other assassins? Stealth still doesn't work in high level play either but that is a whole other discussion.
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Aaod posted:I loved pre nerf Nova and to a lesser extent Stitches because I could heavily punish people who were out of position, but they kind of destroyed her. The hell is the point of a hero with less utility and escapes who does the same burst damage and worst sustain than other assassins? Stealth still doesn't work in high level play either but that is a whole other discussion. Oh yeah, the Stealth element is virtually useless. All it does is provide a minor shield against auto-target attacks. You can still set up ambushes and spec for a fairly decent burst-damage with armor-piercing rounds, but you really need the support of your team to do it without rolling the dice on whether you'll get discovered and destroyed.
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Sep 20, 2019 13:08
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You can just hold still for a second and be totally invis? Seems useful but I never play nova
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Sep 20, 2019 18:27
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Nova's old OitC build was like cleave kerrigan and slam build stitches, huge winrates at average ranks and not really a thing at higher levels. (I loved all three of these builds). Their nova rework gave her way more tools but (eventually) toned down her damage to the point where she's no longer fun, and the snipe stack mechanic plain sucks. The stealth changes werent the problem in her case. No Wave fucked around with this message at 19:58 on Sep 20, 2019 |
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Sep 20, 2019 18:52
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appropriatemetaphor posted:You can just hold still for a second and be totally invis? Seems useful but I never play nova Oh for sure, but people know to look for that and use vision-granting or check bushes and the like. It works when it works, and gets you killed when it doesn't, so it's not super reliable.
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Sep 20, 2019 19:53
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Medivh is better for scouting in basically every situation since he’s hard invulnerable.
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Ironically I was able to play li-Ming somewhat similar old Nova by building her to be less teleport oriented, but it just isn't as fun or satisfying.
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Bogart posted:Medivh is better for scouting in basically every situation since he’s hard invulnerable. Medivh can go gently caress himself through his own portals. What a dumb hero that's only counter strategy is hoping the Medivh player is bad. Or I guess his teammates could also be bad enough to make him lose. And this is a GM complaint I've heard too, there really isn't counter play to him. I pretty much never see games where he loses other than sheer buffoonery.
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Blizz: just chain CC on him lol (nevermind that every single hero is weak to chain CC) edit: also the new whitemane is dumb as gently caress, AA build should not outshine beam build in terms of healing output but here we are Kith fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Sep 21, 2019 |
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Sep 21, 2019 17:46
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Isnt AA build riskier?
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Grimdude posted:Medivh can go gently caress himself through his own portals. What a dumb hero that's only counter strategy is hoping the Medivh player is bad. Or I guess his teammates could also be bad enough to make him lose. And this is a GM complaint I've heard too, there really isn't counter play to him. I pretty much never see games where he loses other than sheer buffoonery. diablo
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Sep 22, 2019 02:11
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Yeah seems like a build will have the same trouble as running Tyrande, your healing will suck if your team constantly runs away and leaves.you as Frontline.
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Sep 22, 2019 02:20
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Why is junkrat getting reworked? He seemed fine.
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Paranoid Peanut posted:Why is junkrat getting reworked? He seemed fine. Junkrat was fine but his talent diversity was abysmal. Who did anything but buff Frag Launcher?
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Sep 22, 2019 15:39
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Paranoid Peanut posted:Why is junkrat getting reworked? He seemed fine. Level 1: Put Some English On It, no contest. Level 4: Taste For Explosions for 90% of the playerbase or Gotta Trap 'Em All! for the 10% that's weird. Level 7: Tricky Shuffles for about 50% of the playerbase. Trap Talents were taken for Gotta Trap 'Em All! users. Level 10: RIP Tire if you're competent and Rocket Ride if you're in a Brawl. Level 13: Ripper Air if you wanted to never get caught and Chattering Teeth if you needed the extra zoning. Level 16: Endless Nades if you're competent. Level 20: The only tier with genuine pick diversity. Junkrat didn't exactly have best build syndrome like some heroes do, but most of the unmentioned talents from my little list there were almost completely unused.
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Me and my friend used to go Chromie + Junkrat and I'd always go Gotta Trap Em All and it'd make the other team's life hell
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Chattering Teeth is a slam pick for the sound effect alone.
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Bogart posted:Medivh is better for scouting in basically every situation since he’s hard invulnerable. Medivh is the best Assassin, full stop.
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Sep 23, 2019 23:49
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I'll agree that Diablo is obviously busted. Way easier to play than Medivh too.
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Sep 24, 2019 19:50
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I will stand by Rocket Ride as a fun and useful ability.
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Sep 24, 2019 22:32
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Rocket Ride is fun and good and if I wanted to riptire I’d play overwatch.
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Sep 24, 2019 22:34
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its not just that rocket ride is bad, its that rip tire is preposterously strong.
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Sep 24, 2019 22:44
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Just have fun and do what you want. Also mute the chat.
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Sep 25, 2019 00:55
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RIP Puckish Scamp, you were too good and pure for this world. New Junkrat owns. New Whitemane rapidly waffles between awful and utterly busted. She did not need and should not have AA talents.
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Sep 25, 2019 01:17
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Doing the rocket ride over and over again was a lot of fun.
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Sep 25, 2019 06:22
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Wait they removed the rocket ride spam? It was one of my favorite ways to finish off games
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Sep 25, 2019 11:10
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My fav Blizzard thing is their slavish devotion to remove ALL OF THE FUN THINGS
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Sep 25, 2019 11:53
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Just saying that the event skins own. I wish I was a Hammer main now because her skin is A++.
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I heard they broke Whitemane like they did with Tyrande. Now they both suck at healing AND damage. I used to really like Tyrande too, even before her W was broken for a while.
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