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angerbot: Mar 23, 2004; plob

I am wholeheartedly expecting all Canadians to not be really really racist with this situation and Halloween coming up.

# ? Sep 20, 2019 00:54

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RealityWarCriminal: Aug 10, 2016

It's not brownface, it's my Justin trudeau costume

# ? Sep 20, 2019 00:55

Simiain: Dec 13, 2005; "BAM! The ole fork in the eye!!"

Argas posted:

Okay there regular canpol poster tagesschau

Piping up for the first time in this thread to ask: What the gently caress is this poo poo?

Also:

Are you as garbage a human being as the above makes it seem you are?

# ? Sep 20, 2019 01:26

flakeloaf: Feb 26, 2003; Still better than android clock

PT6A posted:

In case you need something to distract you from wondering how often Trudeau wears blackface, consider this: those naturopath flakes who let their kid die a horrible death of meningitis have been found not guilty in their retrial.

This stupid country...

The judge retconned the diagnosis to something incurable, and then correctly acquitted them based on that newly-minted fact.

quote:

Back then, the official cause of death was bacterial meningitis.

However, in his written decision, Clackson wrote that he accepted the opinion of Alberta's former chief medical officer, Dr. Anny Sauvageau, who told court she does not believe Ezekiel actually died from bacterial meningitis.

"In this case, we know there is no specific treatment that is effective for viral meningitis," Clackson wrote.

"It follows that the Crown did not prove medical attention would have saved [Ezekiel's] life or that if he had viral meningitis and it was life-threatening [which is not established in the evidence], medical attention even could have saved his life."

You can't neglect someone to death if they have a condition that can't be treated, not that this doesn't still make them both giant morons.

# ? Sep 20, 2019 01:30

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

"more than anything, the Justin Trudeau Brownface Scandal proves that anti-racism is not only wrong, but counterproductive"

# ? Sep 20, 2019 01:30

Postess with the Mostest: Apr 4, 2007; Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

flakeloaf posted:

The judge retconned the diagnosis to something incurable, and then correctly acquitted them based on that newly-minted fact.

You can't neglect someone to death if they have a condition that can't be treated, not that this doesn't still make them both giant morons.

Well yeah if the jehovas get away with it why shouldn't these guys

# ? Sep 20, 2019 01:40

mediaphage: Mar 22, 2007; Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

iPolitics has an article about how Trudeau never told the party about any of this. The comment below:

some dude posted:

In 2001 there was little or no "correctness" such as there is now. Kids would often break out the shoe polish and go "blackface" trick or treating. Then, tears when the polish came off at night. Trudeau was in keeping with the times when that photo was taken!"

At first I thought it might be a troll. I mean, 2001. But the dude commented on all the articles...

some dude posted:

In 2001 there was little or no "correctness" such as there is now. Kids would often break out the shoe polish and go "blackface" trick or treating. Then, tears when the polish came off at night. Trudeau was in keeping with the times when that photo was taken!"

some dude posted:

On Trudeau's makeup for a Haloween party in 2001. In 2001 there was not the sensitivity towards proper speech and "racism" in the whole. IT was a very different time in history. Kid's would dress up as Hobos using shoe polish for "blackface" After trick and treat and stolen gates it was home for an hour or more of tears as Mom scrubbed the shoe polish off. No one thought of it as racism, it was a comedy

some dude posted:

In 2001 there was a lot less sensitivity and frankly a lot less bias than there is today, Kids used to dress up in "blackface" using shoe polish to appear as Hobos. More attention was paid to the scarf that was chosen than to the colour. Indian kids and Chinese kids alongside white kids would go trick and treating together. There was never any intent to bias or make negative statements about any person, race or anything else, unlike our media today. It was simply a chance to step out of character! Another favourite was cowboys and Indians. Everybody wanted to be an Indian!

Honestly in a perfect world I'm not sure what the right answer would be. It's easy to say resignation, but is that better than finishing a term and working to improve and educate the public on issues of race? (see: governor of VA). I don't necessarily think so. And now, I mean, whatever people have to tell themselves to prevent Scheer, I guess. But I'd like to see more "this is terrible, I'm going to hold my nose and vote for him" and less "It was so long ago lol, different times."

# ? Sep 20, 2019 01:50

Wistful of Dollars: Aug 25, 2009

I'm still amazed this didn't come out during the previous election.

# ? Sep 20, 2019 01:56

mediaphage: Mar 22, 2007; Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

Wistful of Dollars posted:

I'm still amazed this didn't come out during the previous election.

Especially because the Canadaland dude mentioned he'd never bothered searching through Trudeau's online past because he figured it'd all been found already. He found one of the undiscovered pictures just randomly online in an archived newsletter from the school Trudeau taught at. Anyone could have found it if they'd looked.

# ? Sep 20, 2019 01:57

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

angerbeet posted:

I am wholeheartedly expecting all Canadians to not be really really racist with this situation and Halloween coming up.

I'm going as the Prime Minister for Halloween, no matter who wins I'll be racist.

# ? Sep 20, 2019 02:01

mediaphage: Mar 22, 2007; Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

infernal machines posted:

I'm going as the Prime Minister for Halloween, no matter who wins I'll be racist.

Is liz a racist too?

That's right, Green majority 2019, all nuclear reactors shutting down overnight plunges Canada into darkness.

# ? Sep 20, 2019 02:03

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

I guess E-May drag would be an entirely different kind of problematic

# ? Sep 20, 2019 02:06

prom candy: Dec 16, 2005; Only I may dance

Unbelievable the number of people trying to claim that doing blackface in 2001 was totally normal and that people only stopped doing it in 2015 when cancel culture was invented.

# ? Sep 20, 2019 02:31

ThanosWasRight: May 12, 2019; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Lol so how many times did he show up blackface now? Is it up to 6? 8? 9?

Wait did he ever stop doing it ? Is he still doing it in private?

gently caress...is he doing it right now?

# ? Sep 20, 2019 02:34

Helsing: Aug 23, 2003; DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU JOE BIDEN

ThanosWasRight posted:

Lol so how many times did he show up blackface now? Is it up to 6? 8? 9?

Wait did he ever stop doing it ? Is he still doing it in private?

gently caress...is he doing it right now?

# ? Sep 20, 2019 02:36

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Somewhere the Prime Minister is hiding in a bathroom, smearing himself with shoe polish

# ? Sep 20, 2019 02:39

Randalor: Sep 4, 2011

Turns out he's been doing it this whole time and just putting pasty white facepaint over top of it when in public.

# ? Sep 20, 2019 02:40

less than three: Aug 9, 2007; Fallen Rib

Received the first e-mail from the NDP in infinity that's not asking for money. Jagmeet's response is good.

quote:

The last 24 hours have sparked a difficult, but necessary, conversation in our country. A discussion on racism and the pain felt by Canadians who know what it feels like to be mocked and discriminated against for who they are.

When I first saw the images circulating of the Prime Minister it was jarring. And, just as many of us were digesting the first, we saw another � and then another.

I�ve spoken to friends and Canadians who have been affected by these images and the pain it has unearthed for them. They are hurting.

That is why today isn�t about Justin Trudeau. Today is about them.

There are millions of people in Canada � kids, young people, newcomers to our country � who have been bullied, hurt, attacked, and insulted because of who they are. These photos bring that into focus.

I faced racism growing up. And I dealt with it by fighting back � sometimes with my fists. But not everyone is able to do that. Many feel powerless � intimidated into a sense of not belonging.

I want to say to the people who�ve felt that pain � you are loved, you have value, you have worth � and we can and will do better for you.

Today I want to ask Canadians not to lose faith in our great country. The last 24 hours have been difficult and so will the coming days. But, remember this � you belong, and together we can fight for a Canada that rejects racism and discrimination. Together, we can fight for a Canada where we are celebrated for who we are, and where we take care of each other.

So I ask, please talk to those around you, check in on your loved ones and all those affected by this. We are stronger together, and united in our opposition to discrimination and hate.

Thank you for fighting for the Canada we all know is possible,

Jagmeet

Jagmeet Singh
Leader
Canada�s NDP

# ? Sep 20, 2019 02:46

BGrifter: Mar 16, 2007; Winner of Something Awful PS5 thread's Posting Excellence Award June 2022

Congratulations!

infernal machines posted:

Somewhere the Prime Minister is hiding in a bathroom, smearing himself with shoe polish

Justin Trudeau can�t stop this scandal, but maybe CAPTAIN PLANET can!

# ? Sep 20, 2019 02:48

The Cheshire Cat: Jun 10, 2008; Fun Shoe

prom candy posted:

Unbelievable the number of people trying to claim that doing blackface in 2001 was totally normal and that people only stopped doing it in 2015 when cancel culture was invented.

It is kind of amazing how many people seem to think that 2001 was 50 years ago. Hell I'm pretty sure even 50 years ago people were already pretty aware that blackface was super racist.

# ? Sep 20, 2019 02:49

James Baud: May 24, 2015; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

You guys are nuts re: blackface being obviously unacceptable in Canada twenty years ago. There was no real awareness because by and large, no black people in most of the country to raise the issue in the first place. Less US media influence before the internet, too. Probably the Obama presidency is when most people first heard it, because Zwarte Piet was still rigorously defended in Canadian places that *had* appreciable black populations less than ten years ago, nevermind the 90% of Canadian cities that don't. (Though most of that lacks dutch people too).

The cultural appropriation stuff re: other costumes is even more recent.

# ? Sep 20, 2019 02:58

vincentpricesboner: Sep 3, 2006; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

If somehow Singh ends up doing Orange Crush 2.0 on the momentum of being anti-racism and anti-bullying I will be ecstatic.

# ? Sep 20, 2019 02:59

ThanosWasRight: May 12, 2019; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

I think this just continues to cement and exemplify something that I have been saying for a while.

White people can't be trusted. It is impossible to live with white people safely. White people are inherently racists. Even the most "liberal" and "progressive" and "socialist" and "POC friendly" white people are at best blind about, and at worst actively, racist.

There can not be a integrated society between minorities and white people that in anyway protects minorities, as long as white people are left in power. It is not possible nor achievable. Trying to integrate white people and minorities can only serve to put minorities in danger. White people will always choose to protect themselves over minorities. They are incapable of doing anything else and the results in every single white majority, english speaking country on earth display this be it Canada, America, Australia or the UK.

# ? Sep 20, 2019 03:02

Chuka Umana: Apr 30, 2019; by sebmojo

ThanosWasRight posted:

I think this just continues to cement and exemplify something that I have been saying for a while.

White people can't be trusted. It is impossible to live with white people safely. White people are inherently racists. Even the most "liberal" and "progressive" and "socialist" and "POC friendly" white people are at best blind about, and at worst actively, racist.

There can not be a integrated society between minorities and white people that in anyway protects minorities, as long as white people are left in power. It is not possible nor achievable. Trying to integrate white people and minorities can only serve to put minorities in danger. White people will always choose to protect themselves over minorities. They are incapable of doing anything else and the results in every single white majority, english speaking country on earth display this be it Canada, America, Australia or the UK.

If you think Trudeau is the most "liberal" and "progressive" of white people you need to study history more.

# ? Sep 20, 2019 03:05

vincentpricesboner: Sep 3, 2006; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

ThanosWasRight posted:

I think this just continues to cement and exemplify something that I have been saying for a while.

White people can't be trusted. It is impossible to live with white people safely. White people are inherently racists. Even the most "liberal" and "progressive" and "socialist" and "POC friendly" white people are at best blind about, and at worst actively, racist.

There can not be a integrated society between minorities and white people that in anyway protects minorities, as long as white people are left in power. It is not possible nor achievable. Trying to integrate white people and minorities can only serve to put minorities in danger. White people will always choose to protect themselves over minorities. They are incapable of doing anything else and the results in every single white majority, english speaking country on earth display this be it Canada, America, Australia or the UK.

CM is that you?

# ? Sep 20, 2019 03:05

Chuka Umana: Apr 30, 2019; by sebmojo

I guess it's the more compassionate side in me that still believes in "no matter how far wrong you go...you can always turn around."

Why do you think Amazing Grace has such popularity among black American churches? It shows that even someone as wretched as an Atlantic slave trader, who was complicit in one of the worst atrocities of human history, can be granted forgiveness in the eyes of God.

# ? Sep 20, 2019 03:09

jet sanchEz: Oct 24, 2001; Lousy Manipulative Dog

James Baud posted:

You guys are nuts re: blackface being obviously unacceptable in Canada twenty years ago. There was no real awareness because by and large, no black people in most of the country to raise the issue in the first place. Less US media influence before the internet, too. Probably the Obama presidency is when most people first heard it, because Zwarte Piet was still rigorously defended in Canadian places that *had* appreciable black populations less than ten years ago, nevermind the 90% of Canadian cities that don't. (Though most of that lacks dutch people too).

The cultural appropriation stuff re: other costumes is even more recent.

This is a great lol.

How old are you and where were you living in 2001?

No black people in Canada in 2001?

Lol

# ? Sep 20, 2019 03:10

Entorwellian: Jun 30, 2006; ~~Northern Flicker~~
Anna's Hummingbird

Sorry, but the people have spoken.

prom candy posted:

Unbelievable the number of people trying to claim that doing blackface in 2001 was totally normal and that people only stopped doing it in 2015 when cancel culture was invented.

It wasn�t normal but I don�t ever remember it being a thing 20 years ago either. I remember that society and my school was more on the call with calling out and educating us on aboriginal stereotypes (I.e. headdress, tomahawk)than blackface being a thing back then.

Like I just remember Dan Ackroyd doing it in the movie �Trading places�and it wasn�t really brought out in the media until people started making fun of Barack Obama with it.

Trudeau is still an idiot though

# ? Sep 20, 2019 03:10

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

prom candy posted:

Unbelievable the number of people trying to claim that doing blackface in 2001 was totally normal and that people only stopped doing it in 2015 when cancel culture was invented.

there's more information exchange across culture now (people are more woke in general) but if you even cursorily study african-american history you're gonna know about minstrelry and blackface. And a high school teacher in Vancouver in 2001 ought to have at least cursorily studied it, imo

Juul-Whip fucked around with this message at 03:28 on Sep 20, 2019

# ? Sep 20, 2019 03:17

Mr. Apollo: Nov 8, 2000

James Baud posted:

You guys are nuts re: blackface being obviously unacceptable in Canada twenty years ago. There was no real awareness because by and large, no black people in most of the country to raise the issue in the first place. Less US media influence before the internet, too. Probably the Obama presidency is when most people first heard it, because Zwarte Piet was still rigorously defended in Canadian places that *had* appreciable black populations less than ten years ago, nevermind the 90% of Canadian cities that don't. (Though most of that lacks dutch people too).

The cultural appropriation stuff re: other costumes is even more recent.

Ace Ventura 2 was 1995. There�s no way in hell that would get made today.

# ? Sep 20, 2019 03:19

Gucci Loafers: May 20, 2006; Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?

ThanosWasRight posted:

I think this just continues to cement and exemplify something that I have been saying for a while.

White people can't be trusted. It is impossible to live with white people safely. White people are inherently racists. Even the most "liberal" and "progressive" and "socialist" and "POC friendly" white people are at best blind about, and at worst actively, racist.

There can not be a integrated society between minorities and white people that in anyway protects minorities, as long as white people are left in power. It is not possible nor achievable. Trying to integrate white people and minorities can only serve to put minorities in danger. White people will always choose to protect themselves over minorities. They are incapable of doing anything else and the results in every single white majority, english speaking country on earth display this be it Canada, America, Australia or the UK.

Even Malcom X came around.

# ? Sep 20, 2019 03:21

JawKnee: Mar 24, 2007; You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

I'm gonna vote NDP so hard and it's gonna feel real good to not give anything to the liberal bootlickers itt

# ? Sep 20, 2019 03:26

mediaphage: Mar 22, 2007; Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

His riding seems behind him.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-what-voters-in-justin-trudeaus-riding-think-about-the-blackface/

Ok obvs I guess they could have left out all the people that hated him but I'm guessing they didn't.

# ? Sep 20, 2019 03:27

Chuka Umana: Apr 30, 2019; by sebmojo

mediaphage posted:

His riding seems behind him.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-what-voters-in-justin-trudeaus-riding-think-about-the-blackface/

Ok obvs I guess they could have left out all the people that hated him but I'm guessing they didn't.

I think goons are going to be surprised at how little this will actually affect the vote.

# ? Sep 20, 2019 03:29

mediaphage: Mar 22, 2007; Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

Chuka Umana posted:

I think goons are going to be surprised at how little this will actually affect the vote.

I'm not so sure. I don't think people really care that much when it's this removed in time; certainly not enough to rabidly change their votes. I do think it's exactly stuff like this that will keep some people home, though, and it's enough to make me wonder what other stupid poo poo about which he's thinking and hoping there're no pictures.

# ? Sep 20, 2019 03:34

SilverMike: Sep 17, 2007; TBD

Chuka Umana posted:

I think goons are going to be surprised at how little this will actually affect the vote.

It might have in his initial run, but now? Not a chance. Anyone who likes what the Liberals have been doing will have their own justifications for why Justin Blackface is perfectly ok and the rest of us will continue calling him a trash fire.

# ? Sep 20, 2019 03:35

Precambrian Video Games: Aug 19, 2002

I do not remember blackface being a popular pastime in Toronto in the 90s, even though black people existed then. Cultural appropriation though, sure thing. At Cub scouts we made 'native' costumes and dreamcatchers in an extremely misguided attempt at education. I'm pretty sure actual first nations people were not involved, nor did anyone happen to mention residential schools.

# ? Sep 20, 2019 03:35

half cocaine: Jul 22, 2019

There are two elementary schools in Vancouver named after Lord Roberts and Lord Kitchener, inventors of the concentration camp.

# ? Sep 20, 2019 03:39

apatheticman: May 13, 2003; Wedge Regret

eXXon posted:

I do not remember blackface being a popular pastime in Toronto in the 90s, even though black people existed then. Cultural appropriation though, sure thing. At Cub scouts we made 'native' costumes and dreamcatchers in an extremely misguided attempt at education. I'm pretty sure actual first nations people were not involved, nor did anyone happen to mention residential schools.

I mean if it didnt take down Drake...

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DariusLikewise posted:

At the end of the day Canada resettled 15,000 people in a county they did not recognize, that speaks two languages they do not understand and gave them no tools or education to help them along with any of it.

At the end of the day the Liberal governments treatment of Syrian refugees was horrific because they claimed to be helping these people while knowingly setting them up for failure. That failure is not only harmful to the 15000 people settled here but in the long run is going to inevitably give ammunition to opponents of refugee resettlement. It's almost as if the Liberals, entirely aware of what socioeconomic conditions lead to an increase in racism in our country as well as what socioeconomic conditions lead to a decrease in racism in our society, chose the former because it will in the long run make them more money, and they don't give a poo poo about anyone but the wealthy.

# ? Sep 20, 2019 03:43

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