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Chilichimp posted:Nate Silver is huffing his own farts. There has never been a time in which he has not huffed his own farts. He would die if he stopped. It is his species' oxygen.
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Mellow Seas posted:Just throwing this out there: given that we hear a lot of crap (mostly disingenuous) about Bernie’s “ceiling” and a bloc of however many Democrats who refuse to support him, does anybody think Sanders would be benefiting right now if he had stayed in the Democratic Party since 2015 rather than dropping out between Presidential cycles? I had no idea Sanders was Independent until people began concern trolling about how he's not a "real Democrat" in 2016. I imagine the average American has no clue he went back to Independent. buddhist nudist fucked around with this message at 20:35 on Sep 20, 2019 |
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DaveWoo posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/reidepstein/status/1175119005973196802 Biden is the front-runner and literally every other thing I've heard him say is telling people to vote for someone else lmao
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mandatory lesbian posted:Biden is the front-runner and literally every other thing I've heard him say is telling people to vote for someone else lmao It's basically performance art at this point
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The Glumslinger posted:Nate Cohn still believe Klobuchmentum What dark magic permeates this world which causes every Nate to believe in Klobuchar?
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Gyges posted:What dark magic permeates this world which causes every Nate to believe in Klobuchar? She's the Great Midwestern Hope
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Sep 20, 2019 21:08
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Gyges posted:What dark magic permeates this world which causes every Nate to believe in Klobuchar? The belief that punching left is synonymous with electability.
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Sep 20, 2019 21:14
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Gyges posted:What dark magic permeates this world which causes every Nate to believe in Klobuchar? He got that dark magic eating from a trashcan with a name we all know. quote:In a 2012 interview with Charlie Rose he stated, "I'd say I am somewhere in between being a libertarian and a liberal. So if I were to vote it would be kind of a Gary Johnson versus Mitt Romney decision, I suppose."[178]
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Trabisnikof posted:He got that dark magic eating from a trashcan with a name we all know. That's Shook Nate though, we're talking about the other one!
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King of Solomon posted:That's Shook Nate though, we're talking about the other one! Ooops then this'll do! quote:he majored in politics and was on the debate team that won the 2010 National Parliamentary Debate Association Championship.
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Sep 20, 2019 21:20
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Hahahaha Nate was loving NPDA champion. Lol. NPDA sucks.
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Gyges posted:What dark magic permeates this world which causes every Nate to believe in Klobuchar? When you're models come down boxes to check, after 2018 White, Midwest, Moderate, Female all score very well. They can't account for intangibles like Charisma or Able to Put Together A Campaign Edit: https://twitter.com/HeerJeet/status/1175154290949857280  BTW, what kind of poo poo are they trying to smear Biden with? I've never even heard any of the supposed details The Glumslinger fucked around with this message at 22:08 on Sep 20, 2019 |
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The Glumslinger posted:When you're models come down boxes to check, after 2018 White, Midwest, Moderate, Female all score very well. Was just about to post that Biden quote. For gently caress's sake, Joe, is that the best you can do?
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I unironically think this whole situation is gonna boost Biden's chances in the primary
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The Glumslinger posted:BTW, what kind of poo poo are they trying to smear Biden with? I've never even heard any of the supposed details https://twitter.com/markberman/status/1175131347716845573 So Biden's response is extra dumb because Trump hasn't actually accused him of anything.
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Trump: "I'm going to corruptly bribe Ukraine to open an investigation to hurt my political opponent." Biden: "Um, that's not very presidential."
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Majorian posted:The belief that punching left is synonymous with electability. Literally?
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:It's less that there's actual smearing going on and more that Trump reportedly tried to get Ukraine to dig up dirt on him and his son. But I mean, what are they trying to dig up? Like, do they even have any specific history with Ukraine? Why not just try with Turkey or UAE or some other country where Trump is friendly with the leader?
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Trabisnikof posted:I don’t know if that is actually backed up by the polling data. For example, this sharp decline in Republican Party approval occurs while Democratic Party approval remains flat. it's great how Republicans are totally hated yet they always win because Democrats are so dogshit most voters won't even cast a spite vote for them E: to answer the original question, the only people I've seen who give a poo poo that Sanders is Not Even A Democrat have terminal brainworms infestations, the type who accused anyone of having a problem with Franken grabbing boobs and asses of being a secret Republican. They're a lost cause and wouldn't vote for Sanders no matter what letter was next to his name, as long as the establishment told them to hate Medicare For All and unions they'd do it. VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 22:28 on Sep 20, 2019 |
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The Glumslinger posted:But I mean, what are they trying to dig up? Like, do they even have any specific history with Ukraine? Why not just try with Turkey or UAE or some other country where Trump is friendly with the leader? Bidens son was on the board or vice president or whatever of some company that was operating in Ukraine, I'm not sure Biden's son himself actually did anything but the company was supposedly using the fact that they had him at all to suggest that they could get deals through using the Biden connection. So yes, they have specific history with Ukraine.
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DaveWoo posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/reidepstein/status/1175119005973196802 A lot of people (rightly) give Warren poo poo for being a republican until she was 46, but, let's not forget that Biden wishes he were a republican now.
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reignonyourparade posted:Bidens son was on the board or vice president or whatever of some company that was operating in Ukraine, I'm not sure Biden's son himself actually did anything but the company was supposedly using the fact that they had him at all to suggest that they could get deals through using the Biden connection. Oil and gas, specifically.
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mediaphage posted:That does it, she’ll totally lose the nom over slang misuse Her recent media attention is very Abuela-ish. Chilichimp posted:She doesn't want to give Jake Tapper a "I promise to raise your taxes" soundbyte. The same thing Bernie is doing. Bernie always explains how it will cost less overall when he does that. It isn't smart to avoid going into detail when asked, and it isn't smart to avoid answering a direct question in the last debate about whether you'd get rid of private insurance, imply as much in your first debate, then release a health plan page that clearly states you won't cover mental health, but private insurance will. She is all over the place and for very deliberate reasons: exactly what pig stated. Judakel fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Sep 20, 2019 |
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Ague Proof posted:Literally? I mean, probably? I don't have any specific examples, but it doesn't seem too far-fetched.
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:It's less that there's actual smearing going on and more that Trump reportedly tried to get Ukraine to dig up dirt on him and his son. Is this what the whistleblower was whistle blowing?
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The Glumslinger posted:But I mean, what are they trying to dig up? Like, do they even have any specific history with Ukraine? Why not just try with Turkey or UAE or some other country where Trump is friendly with the leader? He thinks they're Russians and Russia hacked Hillary Clinton's past.
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HootTheOwl posted:Is this what the whistleblower was whistle blowing? Probably. It was said to deal with Ukraine.
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The Glumslinger posted:But I mean, what are they trying to dig up? Like, do they even have any specific history with Ukraine? Why not just try with Turkey or UAE or some other country where Trump is friendly with the leader? Hunter Biden was on the board of directors of the largest private gas company in Ukraine from 2014-2019. During that time, the Obama administration tasked Joe Biden with managing our foreign policy toward Ukraine, as well as our diplomatic relationship with them. This gave him plenty of opportunities to influence the Ukrainian government on issues that could potentially have had a significant impact on the finances of a company that was paying Hunter Biden millions of dollars a year at the time. This raised a number of eyebrows even then, but the White House dismissed it as an innocent coincidence, and the media decided not to treat it as a scandal. The two specific allegations are these: First, the Obama administration sent Vice President Joe Biden to Ukraine to discuss how the US could help Ukraine expand its domestic gas production and break its dependence on imports of Russian natural gas. While this was in line with administration policy at the time, this also held rather obvious potential benefits for Ukrainian gas companies like the one Hunter worked for. Second, Biden pressured the Ukrainian government to fire a top prosecutor tasked with investigating government corruption, by threatening to withdraw a billion dollars in US loan guarantees if they didn't get rid of him. It's one of his favorite foreign policy stories, actually. The official reason for the pressure was that this prosecutor was widely perceived both inside and outside Ukraine as overly conservative and anti-reform, dragging his feet on corruption investigations and preferring to issue wrist-slaps or excuses rather than big punishments. That's in line with the official position of the US and other Western governments at the time. However, the fired prosecutor and his supporters claimed that he had been working on an investigation into financial irregularities and bribes involving the company that employed Hunter, and that his successor had quietly swept the cases under the rug and buried them. That claim is disputed, but the right latched onto it pretty hard, and this is the case Giuliani wants investigated. In both accusations, there's no actual evidence of misconduct on the part of the Biden clan, and no actual evidence that Joe ever wielded his influence with the direct intention of benefiting his son's business connections. But the fact still remains that Hunter Biden had ties to major business interests in Ukraine at the same time that Joe Biden was actively intervening in Ukrainian politics and economic policy, and there was never any firewall between Joe and his relatives' business interests. It was easy to handwave away the conflict of interest back during the relatively scandal-free Obama administration, but since Trump's businesses have come under close scrutiny during his administration, the right is practically salivating at the opportunity to throw all those accusations right back in liberals' faces.
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Ogmius815 posted:Hahahaha Nate was loving NPDA champion. Lol. Does NDPA use the garbage debating style where you just throw out as many arguments as you can and it doesn’t matter how stupid they are?
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RasperFat posted:Does NDPA use the garbage debating style where you just throw out as many arguments as you can and it doesn’t matter how stupid they are? You’re probably thinking of policy, but NPDA dabbles in that sort of thing.
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mandatory lesbian posted:Biden is the front-runner and literally every other thing I've heard him say is telling people to vote for someone else lmao Ah good, we're at that stage of the 2016 speedrun when the Democratic candidate sneeringly informs people they don't need their vote. Phi230 posted:He, and many other libs in this thread, are not stupid they're just being hostile and disingenuous. Neither of those two things rule out them also being quite stupid.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Ah good, we're at that stage of the 2016 speedrun when the Democratic candidate sneeringly informs people they don't need their vote. Tbf Buttigieg already beat him to that.
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https://twitter.com/iske_paul/status/1174833679933280263 By the by, who feels like taking a guess what the 'death threats' and 'sick, hateful, twisted, vicious things' might be? Go ahead, depending on how jaded you are the answer might surprise you!
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https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1175192494734266369?s=19 also good effortpost Paineframe; I'd add that there were largely unsubstantiated afaik allegations of the corruption prosecutor being himself corrupt and that being part of why he routinely threw cases
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https://twitter.com/andrewyang/status/1175194233034162176?s=21 Yang just lost the 4chan vote
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https://twitter.com/Cantide1/status/1175194578758131712 https://twitter.com/JaronGubernick/status/1175195171929153538 Yang's base... I guess?
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goethe.cx posted:https://twitter.com/andrewyang/status/1175194233034162176?s=21 I don't get this. Parents already have all the power they need to block porn from kids. What exactly are you suggesting, Yang?
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The Memo is getting around the journo water cooler. https://twitter.com/DavidOAtkins/status/1175207747920379904 Nonsense fucked around with this message at 01:48 on Sep 21, 2019 |
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"Impeach him" I yell, once again, to the same audience with the same effect.quote:Regional Director, CA Dem Party. President of qualitative research firm. Yeah, a CA Dem, there's someone interested in change.
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mediaphage posted:I don't get this. Parents already have all the power they need to block porn from kids. What exactly are you suggesting, Yang? That they spend their Democracy Dollars to do it better
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