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RBA Starblade posted:Arkham Origins was one of the most broken games I'd ever played at launch and that's saying a lot I'm almost 100% positive you're confusing Origins and Knight here. Arkham Knight was the one that was so broken it had to be removed from retailers and was still pretty broken for awhile after they supposedly fixed it.
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Regrettable posted:I'm almost 100% positive you're confusing Origins and Knight here. Arkham Knight was the one that was so broken it had to be removed from retailers and was still pretty broken for awhile after they supposedly fixed it. Which is the one about Batman starting out and fighting Bane, that one Levels just stopped loading after a while so I got to fight Firefly on a grey texture
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Sep 20, 2019 17:51
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RBA Starblade posted:Which is the one about Batman starting out and fighting Bane, that one Well, looks like I was wrong. That sounds like the bug where it would only load the lowest quality LoD textures. If so, it was pretty simple to fix. Arkham Knight, on the other hand, was completely unplayable at launch because of constant stuttering and freezing and continued to have some issues with stuttering and freezing even after they supposedly fixed it. It does run much better now, though.
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Sep 20, 2019 17:59
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aba posted:I think that Origins has the best take on the Batman as the world's greatest detective. In all the others he's just another protagonist punching his way through. Agreed. RBA Starblade posted:Arkham Origins was one of the most broken games I'd ever played at launch and that's saying a lot RBA Starblade posted:Which is the one about Batman starting out and fighting Bane, that one I played it maybe 3 or 4 months after launch and never had any technical issues other than sometimes the Executioner gloves would continue to electrocute guys after you knocked them out so their bodies would just flail around on the ground repeatedly. As far as I'm concerned, that actually made the game better. Also the Deathstroke fight was great.
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I think Origins did stealth and story better than City, and I liked the new enemy types. Origins' biggest problem is that they mucked up the melee combat. Though the shock gloves end up alleviating that and also everything else in the game because they're kinda overpowered.
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Sep 21, 2019 03:50
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Discendo Vox posted:If this includes Origins or Blackgate, be aware that: ... they were assassins creed clones, my gamer.
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Sep 21, 2019 05:59
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Asylum is one of the best Metroidvanias of that generation.
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Larry Parrish posted:... they were assassins creed clones, my gamer. That would be a real trick considering all of one Assassin's Creed (which itself was a pretty different beasts from the later ones) came out before Arkham Asylum did and AC started ripping off AA not long afterwards.
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Sep 21, 2019 19:41
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Larry Parrish posted:... they were assassins creed clones, my gamer. I think you'll find that both were just Jak 2 clones.
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Sep 21, 2019 23:28
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Larry Parrish posted:... they were assassins creed clones, my gamer. I love you man but you're dead wrong lol. The games got better in some ways and worse in others as the series went on but if you've never played Asylum you should, it feels like more of a Metroid Prime game than it does Assassin's Creed. And while the combat system has been beaten to death in a ton of games now it was pretty cool at the time
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Sep 22, 2019 06:19
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I had never heard of a metroidvania when I played it, but asylum is a metroidvania.
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Sep 22, 2019 06:23
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goferchan posted:I love you man but you're dead wrong lol. The games got better in some ways and worse in others as the series went on but if you've never played Asylum you should, it feels like more of a Metroid Prime game than it does Assassin's Creed. And while the combat system has been beaten to death in a ton of games now it was pretty cool at the time look maybe I'm wrong but all I know is I played an hour or two of asylum and while it felt a lot less bootleg than an ubisoft games iconic half finished garbage style, the sub witcher 3 tier combat and the collectibles were unforgivable. i dunno I didn't play it till like 2015.
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Sep 22, 2019 07:38
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lol arkham combat is not worse than witcher 3
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Arkham Asylum feels like a game designed from start to finish. Arkham City and Assassin Creed games feels like they created an open world first that was then sprinkled with content.
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Larry Parrish posted:look maybe I'm wrong but all I know is I played an hour or two of asylum and while it felt a lot less bootleg than an ubisoft games iconic half finished garbage style, the sub witcher 3 tier combat and the collectibles were unforgivable. i dunno I didn't play it till like 2015. what the hell are you smoking Mierenneuker posted:Arkham Asylum feels like a game designed from start to finish. Arkham City and Assassin Creed games feels like they created an open world first that was then sprinkled with content. Yeah going from a tightly designed metroidvania into an empty boring open world was a terrible direction for the series
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Larry Parrish posted:look maybe I'm wrong but all I know is I played an hour or two of asylum and while it felt a lot less bootleg than an ubisoft games iconic half finished garbage style, the sub witcher 3 tier combat and the collectibles were unforgivable. i dunno I didn't play it till like 2015. did you just stand around waiting until the enemy attacked and then hit the counter button? nah man you gotta take it to them, build up the combo use the gadgets. You're Batman, it's not about winning, it's about doing it with style
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I got the rare urge to play some real videogame rear end video games and installed Arkham Knight. It started out real strong, especially with the intro that holds frame on the face of a corpse for several minutes, real avant garde arthouse poo poo. I was too busy contemplating my mortality while staring into the abyss to realize I was supposed to mash some buttons. Then it turned into an FPS. Then it turned into a bloated collectathon but it was fun for a bit at least. I don't play AAA games very often so the spectacle's not lost on me, it's just incredibly unfocused and the game keeps trying to derail me onto new quests when I'm in the middle of another one.
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Sep 22, 2019 09:48
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The best batman game is the LOTR one
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Sep 22, 2019 10:56
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I still maintain the next batman needs to rip off the nemesis system
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Sep 22, 2019 13:21
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Mazerunner posted:did you just stand around waiting until the enemy attacked and then hit the counter button? nah man you gotta take it to them, build up the combo use the gadgets. You're Batman, it's not about winning, it's about doing it with style It's about leaving people with permanent, crippling disabilities.
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Sep 22, 2019 13:35
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dogstile posted:I still maintain the next batman needs to rip off the nemesis system Batman with some random mook turning into a villain after your over the top bone breaking attacks would be so very very good.
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Sep 22, 2019 13:55
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Keep a "medical expenses" stat like Alpha Protocol does. Make Bruce pay every bill. Or, maybe make the nearest hospital increasingly hostile as the injured pile up, then it starts running low on supplies, and nurses and doctors go out to lead ex-patients on looting missions.
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Sep 22, 2019 14:45
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Everyone knows Bruce Wayne only put on the batsuit because his medical supply company was in the red for 3 years in a row
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Sep 22, 2019 16:24
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What would be the name of the physical therapist who is horrifically traumatized by all the Batman related injuries they have to deal with and then becomes Batman's new enemy?
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quote:Miyamoto communicated with Rare via fax during the final stages of GoldenEye 007 development[...]he felt the game was too tragic, with all the killing. He suggested that it might be nice if, at the end of the game, you got to shake hands with all your enemies in the hospital.
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I agree
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Cojawfee posted:What would be the name of the physical therapist who is horrifically traumatized by all the Batman related injuries they have to deal with and then becomes Batman's new enemy? Blunt Force
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FFT posted:Blunt Force Because of all the medicinal marijuana?
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Sep 23, 2019 09:09
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THE BAR posted:Because of all the medicinal marijuana? 
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Sep 23, 2019 09:11
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There better be a Batman story arc where Big Alcohol tricks Batman into destroying a successful marijuana legalization campaign that would also end the carceral state
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Sep 23, 2019 14:04
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Epics Batman giveaway has been expanded - originally it only included the basic version of Arkham Knight, but now they're including the full season pass as well. People who already claimed it should get the DLCs automatically.
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dogstile posted:I still maintain the next batman needs to rip off the nemesis system This but with Mad Max. It would be perfect, have them start modding their vehicles specifically in response to how you kicked their rear end, as well as the scars and phobias and whatnot. Just endless wasteland nemesis vehicle combat with lots of explosions and dudes in weird bondage poo poo. It would be glorious. 
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So I beat Arkham Asylum last night and moved on to Arkham Knight. It looks better, there are definite QoL improvements (like being able to grapple while gliding), and having other characters to play is an upgrade. But it does feel a bit aimless, oddly. And I'm still not a huge fan of the combo mechanic though it's satisfying when it works. "Oh, you missed for no reason? Start over." "Oh, the game didn't register you were going for a ground takedown? lol aim with your batarang, start over." To be fair, this was an issue in Asylum as well and I'm not sure there's a good solution on keyboard-adapted-from-console-gameplay. Going to have another go at it while more sober.
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FFT posted:So I beat Arkham Asylum last night and moved on to Arkham Knight. You should play City before Knight.
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Yeah, City is the sequel to Asylum and the best game in the series imo. Knight is the sequel to City.
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I wouldn't recommend playing all of those in a row, might as well pick one or two and run with it. City is perfectly skippable in favor of Origins or Knight.
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i think origins does a lot of things better than city but if i had to choose between them itd be city
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Skwirl posted:You should play City before Knight. My mistake, I did mean City.
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even if city was a direct copy paste with no QoL it would be better if for no other reason than the collectibles are less obnoxious. asylum had that really weird duality where you wanted to get the collectibles, especially riddler trophies, as early as humanly possible because the XP was super helpful, especially if you were playing on Hard. however, it was never exactly clear what precisely you needed to get a specific trophy, or if you were just bad at the game and missing the jump or whatever. in City you could arrive on the scene and see one of those moronic rube goldberg machines that Riddler sets up and immediately be like "oh, ok, i need some upgrade for this" and peace out without wasting five minutes trying some bullshit.
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It was really annoying in Asylum just barely missing a jump I know I need to make only to realize I get some item later that gets me there or some other path opens up.
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