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GoutPatrol posted:Yes and how are we going to "un-skew" these polls? Ignoring them, debating policy, campaigning as hard as we can for the people we believe in, getting the word out, and then seeing how much the only real polls (the primaries and caucuses) turn out.
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GoutPatrol posted:Yes and how are we going to "un-skew" these polls? just ignore them lol bernie is the only candidate that's not poo poo, there's no one else to support no matter how good or bad his numbers are
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Sep 22, 2019 14:18
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Well here we are, Bernie stans claiming that numbers and science are fake news. Who does that sound like?
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Sep 22, 2019 14:29
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GoutPatrol posted:Yes and how are we going to "un-skew" these polls? How many phone calls from numbers you don’t recognize do you answer a day?
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Sep 22, 2019 14:49
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GreyjoyBastard posted:so no, i still don't think Delaney's two years at TFA a particularly big reason to hate Elizabeth Warren Mods please namechange Greyjoy to "deaf by a thousand cuts"
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Sep 22, 2019 15:31
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RottenK posted:just ignore them lol Lol the people in this thread are literally giving themselves mental illness by staring at propaganda polls
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Sep 22, 2019 15:55
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We literally had a pollster apologize for releasing a poll that was good for Bernie but sure political polling is definitely not a joke.
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Sep 22, 2019 16:05
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gently caress a poll, Bernie is going to win and the world will be a better place for it.
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Sep 22, 2019 16:51
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She spoke to representatives of the LGBTQ community and the prison community and changed her mind! That's a good thing!
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warren poaching republican voters from kamala harris is okay with me
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Oh Snapple! posted:We literally had a pollster apologize for releasing a poll that was good for Bernie but sure political polling is definitely not a joke. that poll showed a three way tie (Bernie/Warren at 20, Biden at 19, with Biden losing 13 points from their previous poll and warren and sanders gaining 5 and 6 points respectively) , you're really taking this victim complex to a new level by making it proof that Bernie was specifically targeted (also they didn't apologize they released a statement saying 'We think this is probably an outlier, but we feel like we have to publish our results, because it's even worse practices to not release polls or change your weighting when you get an outlier result once') eke out fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Sep 22, 2019 |
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eke out posted:that poll showed a three way tie (Bernie/Warren at 20, Biden at 19, with Biden losing 13 points from their previous poll and warren and sanders gaining 5 and 6 points respectively) , you're really taking this victim complex to a new level by making it proof that Bernie was specifically targeted Just lmao if you don’t think there’s a coordinated attack against bernie
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eke out posted:that poll showed a three way tie (Bernie/Warren at 20, Biden at 19, with Biden losing 13 points from their previous poll and warren and sanders gaining 5 and 6 points respectively) , you're really taking this victim complex to a new level by making it proof that Bernie was specifically targeted "Victim complex" gently caress off. They wouldn't have said poo poo if only Warren had gotten that bump and you know it.
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Sep 22, 2019 17:29
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The polls definitely aren't fake, that's why Hillary Clinton won Michigan in 2016's primary and general election, just as the polls decreed
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Sep 22, 2019 17:35
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VitalSigns posted:The polls definitely aren't fake, that's why Hillary Clinton won Michigan in 2016's primary and general election, just as the polls decreed Also Iowa in 2008 by 30 to 40%
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Sep 22, 2019 17:38
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Remember when Lizzo posted positively about Bernie and succdems shamed her into deleting it? We gonna obliterate these ghouls. https://twitter.com/leslieleeiii/status/1175422761205993472 We need to keep bringing it up. The only people eyerolling about it are white chuds and trust fund brats also hoteps. Nonsense fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Sep 22, 2019 |
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Sep 22, 2019 17:39
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Again, why do we allow polls to be posted here? It's just alt-centrist bullshit made by white liberal racists that told us hillary was going to win and convince us good leftist things aren't possible
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Sep 22, 2019 17:48
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Errr why would we not allow polls of the democratic primary race to be posted in the democratic primary race thread? Just calm down and remember that Sanders' strategy is to turn out the voters who are deliberately under-sampled by these polls.
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Typo posted:Again, why do we allow polls to be posted here? It's just alt-centrist bullshit made by white liberal racists that told us hillary was going to win and convince us good leftist things aren't possible DNC Primary 2020: No Polls Allowed Unless They Show Bernie Ahead
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Heavy neutrino posted:Errr why would we not allow polls of the democratic primary race to be posted in the democratic primary race thread? because it's loving bullshit made to demoralize the left so we think we have to go for some racist liberal lady like warren or hillary or harris instead of good and cool leftist candidates like bernie who is the only alternative to fascist capitalism and the heat death of the planet
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Typo posted:Again, why do we allow polls to be posted here? It's just alt-centrist bullshit made by white liberal racists that told us hillary was going to win and convince us good leftist things aren't possible The same reason you and Calibanibal are allowed to post here.
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DaveWoo posted:DNC Primary 2020: No Polls Allowed Unless They Show Bernie Ahead this but unironically
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polls matter <- liberals after 2016
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the dark horse emerges! also I like the polls the second to last week of January cos that's probably the final result. Nonsense fucked around with this message at 18:01 on Sep 22, 2019 |
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Heavy neutrino posted:Errr why would we not allow polls of the democratic primary race to be posted in the democratic primary race thread?
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twodot posted:What is there to debate or discuss about a sequence of ten numbers? Like "Sanders is down 2 and Biden is up 3 and Yang is still at 0%, all of these results are inside the margin of error" there's nothing to say about any of that. the entire planet is literally going to be destroyed unless we elect the only non-capitalist candidate and the people in this loving thread are arguing number fuckerstain baseball scores for an election a year ahead of time
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Sep 22, 2019 18:01
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It does own that instead of actually criticizing Sanders his detractors are left to do lovely trolling where they fake post as leftists to try to make Sanders look bad by association.
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what a loving baby. https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1175812815430520832
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Groovelord Neato posted:what a loving baby. Drag this lolbertarian piece of poo poo
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Groovelord Neato posted:what a loving baby. wonder what he's going to say once bernie wins
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Trabisnikof posted:It does own that instead of actually criticizing Sanders his detractors are left to do lovely trolling where they fake post as leftists to try to make Sanders look bad by association. it's been a thousandfold improvement for some posters tbh. Like I could probably just quote typo's posts for the past couple months and just go "this but unironically"
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Typo posted:wonder what he's going to say once bernie wins He'll be charting Trump's path to reelection if Bernie wins the nomination and if Bernie wins the presidency it'll be all approval ratings all the time
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overmind2000 posted:He'll be charting Trump's path to reelection if Bernie wins the nomination and if Bernie wins the presidency it'll be all approval ratings all the time Ah that's right, the media will remember to hold the president accountable.
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overmind2000 posted:He'll be charting Trump's path to reelection if Bernie wins the nomination and if Bernie wins the presidency it'll be all approval ratings all the time "sorry i was too busy number fuckerstaining to look at the crowd size at bernie rallies"
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The issue isn't that polls mean nothing, but more that in the specific context of election polls there's an inherent, unavoidable flaw in that pollsters have to predict who is going to vote. Basically, polls are incapable of accurately predicting the result if voting patterns change (which is Sanders' whole strategy). Like, if you just polled a random group of 1000 people that would presumably give you an accurate sense of what the American people believe, but the issue is that these polls also have to guess who will vote in the primary (which, if you generously assume they're not purposefully biasing them in a way that prevent Sanders from doing well, still involves them operating on the assumption that the same people will vote who voted in the past).
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Wicked Them Beats posted:The polls are only accurate if they show Bernie winning. You're completely correct. See you in a week! (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Typo posted:Again, why do we allow polls to be posted here? It's just alt-centrist bullshit made by white liberal racists that told us hillary was going to win and convince us good leftist things aren't possible Because Main Painframe locks anybody out for a week who says the truth, for some unknown, unspecified (probably Liz supporter) reason
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Even if there weren't very good reasons to think the polls have immense sampling and publication biases, I still don't see what there is to actually discuss about a poll.
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twodot posted:Even if there weren't very good reasons to think the polls have immense sampling and publication biases, I still don't see what there is to actually discuss about a poll. Especially this far out. Although what’s left besides rehashing the same points over and over (not complaining, mind you; I get just as sucked in sometimes).
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