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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/13/why-do-north-korean-defector-testimonies-so-often-fall-apart Whataboutism again dude, that's a North Korean not even the same Uighur as the one you are insinuating as being coached
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Sep 23, 2019 03:40
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Lady Galaga posted:Whataboutism again dude, that's a North Korean not even the same Uighur as the one you are insinuating as being coached so you are saying only north koreans can be coached? sounds pretty racist
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Sep 23, 2019 03:41
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I'm not the one bringing up a 4 year old article on North Korean defectors when pressed for sources about a Uighur allegedly being coached in describing her torture lol
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Sep 23, 2019 03:44
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Lady Galaga posted:I'm not the one bringing up a 4 year old article on North Korean defectors when pressed for sources about a Uighur allegedly being coached in describing her torture lol "we lied about north korea, but we're really not lying about xinjiang, promise"
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Sep 23, 2019 03:48
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You literally just said they were prisoners though?
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Sep 23, 2019 03:49
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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:"we lied about north korea, but we're really not lying about xinjiang, promise" white liberals are so conditioned into having minorities treated like poo poo in prisons they can't even bring themselves to realize under socialism concentration camps prisoners might not be tortured
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Sep 23, 2019 03:50
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What you can't see in the background of these photos is that its just a really big game of pin the tail on the donkey
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Sep 23, 2019 03:55
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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:"we lied about north korea, but we're really not lying about xinjiang, promise" Yeah I guess it's perfectly okay and normal to immediately victim blame the tortured Uighur lady just because some North Korean made up claims due to financial incentives four years ago when you put it like that. It's not like it's reprehensible, even if the claims weren't true. That kind of emotional sympathy must really endear you to your female friends!
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Sep 23, 2019 04:00
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So how long until Pevan Stan does another racism and gets banned again? Or maybe stanning for NK or soemthing?
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Sep 23, 2019 04:07
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What Xinjiang apologists actually believe:quote:"If not for the [Chinese] government, I would someday become a terrorist," said one detainee while wiping tears from his eyes. https://abcnews.go.com/International/nightline-granted-rare-tour-chinese-vocational-centers-muslim/story?id=65248173
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Sep 23, 2019 04:38
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Terrorist conversion therapy is a new take, when is Pence going to tour these?
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Sep 23, 2019 04:43
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I thought they were being genocided. https://webcache.googleusercontent....n&ct=clnk&gl=us Anyway, the highly right wing Jamestown Foundation did a good writeup on the situation of American-backed IS terrorists returning from Syria, but amusingly deleted it from their production site for some reason. quote:While it is known that a large number of Chinese Uighurs have travelled to Syria to fight, how many of them are still alive and will be returning to China is as of yet unknown. Many returnees may be arrested and imprisoned during their return; however there is still the potential for individuals to sneak back into Xinjiang via Central Asia. As they return, they may bring a newly Islamized narrative and motivation which will challenge the predominantly separatist ideology of traditional Uighur attacks. To be clear, China does not face a threat of thousands of fighters returning to wage an open battle. Rather, the risk of foreign fighters returning is in the potential for a small few to slip through the security cracks and re-enter their communities, or to exit detention programs without disengaging from violence. Once returned, they can become powerful force multipliers who may introduce leadership, technical and tactical knowledge, resources, and radicalization methods to the community [8]. http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...in-xinjiang/The Jamestown Foundation has also taken down all its articles contradicting the emotionally charged narrative that the western media is pushing, like this one.
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Sep 23, 2019 04:51
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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:I thought they were being genocided. cultural genocide destruction of a culture’s heritage, values, and practices, usually by another, dominant cultural group. CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:amusingly deleted it from their production site for some reason. ya the whole site is down, don't let your paranoia work u up. In short: Dreddout posted:Take your meds
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Sep 23, 2019 04:56
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I can't believe you're going back to the "uighyr terrorist race" well
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Sep 23, 2019 04:59
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Lady Galaga posted:cultural genocide is it really cultural genocide when for all we know they are free to practice their culture within the concentration camps?
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Sep 23, 2019 05:01
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Typo posted:is it really cultural genocide when for all we know they are free to practice their culture within the concentration camps? Reading this in a 1940s newsman voice
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Sep 23, 2019 05:06
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Lady Galaga posted:cultural genocide So who is alleging this other than the noted stalwart defenders of islam checks notes white countries in the global north currently engaged in bombing muslims worldwide. Interesting how the western narrative of muslim countries supporting China gets spun as these countries abandoning their own people. 1984 is real.
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Sep 23, 2019 05:19
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Lol 90% of earth's population lives north of the equator
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Sep 23, 2019 05:20
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drat Myanmar and Saudi Arabia came to China's defense, this must be totally above board
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Sep 23, 2019 05:24
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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:So who is alleging this other than the noted stalwart defenders of islam checks notes white countries in the global north currently engaged in bombing muslims worldwide. Lady Galaga posted:Whataboutism Lady Galaga posted:whataboutism Lady Galaga posted:Whatbout Amerikca Lady Galaga posted:whatbaoutAmekriakak
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Sep 23, 2019 05:24
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lolling at hongers being too afraid to touch a pro-HKPF white person: https://twitter.com/CarlZha/status/1175982521307107329?s=20
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Sep 23, 2019 05:26
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"whataboutism" means nothing more than im mad you pointed out my hypocritical selective outrage and exposed the underlying prejudice
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Sep 23, 2019 05:28
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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:lolling at hongers being too afraid to touch a pro-HKPF white person: Posted by notable white women toucher, pevan stan Stocking posted:"whataboutism" means nothing more than im mad you pointed out my hypocritical selective outrage and exposed the underlying prejudice lol no, it means "I have run out of meaningful things to say about my shallow take of supporting the party line, please look at these US imperialists instead", except now back to deflecting with Carl Zha tweets again
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Sep 23, 2019 05:30
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like the point of saying "whata bout america" or whatever isnt to say that it happens everywhere so its ok or to divert from the topic at hand but to explore the fact that someone who'se acting all worked up about one thing but don't give a gently caress about another similar or worse thing is either doing so because they have some ulterior unstated motive of they just stupid, often both
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Sep 23, 2019 05:33
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drat the perfect way to shut down troubling conversations
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Sep 23, 2019 05:36
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Lady Galaga posted:Posted by notable white women toucher, pevan stan lmao Lady Galaga posted:lol no, it means "I have run out of meaningful things to say about my shallow take of supporting the party line, please look at these US imperialists instead", except now back to deflecting with Carl Zha tweets again
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Sep 23, 2019 05:37
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yeah "whataboutism" isn't even tu quoque, just some cold war-era meme that got resurrected circa 2017
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Sep 23, 2019 05:39
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literally hiding behind brown people lmao b-but they said it was fine!!! my muslim friends agree with me that they're all secretly terrorists! this justifies my reeducation camps!!!
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Sep 23, 2019 05:39
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Aeolius posted:yeah "whataboutism" isn't even tu quoque, just some cold war-era meme that got resurrected circa 2017 yeah it says a lot that white liberal whataboutism means they have to criticizes socialism for having concentration camps and make false accusations about the conditions in them to deflect from conditions minorities suffer in their own prisons
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Sep 23, 2019 05:43
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Grapplejack posted:literally hiding behind brown people lmao Everything the west accuses china of doing it does itself. This "I am rubber you are glue" bullshit is just going to get worse as America continues to decline and has to resort to increasing levels of projection in order to keep liberals occupied with a foreign boogeyman. I am shocked that RFA hasn't accused China of setting up concentration camps for undocumented immigrants yet.
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Sep 23, 2019 05:44
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Spergin Morlock posted:Lol 90% of earth's population lives north of the equator That's not what the term global north means moron
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Sep 23, 2019 05:48
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Aeolius posted:and another thing: a simple way to improve your posture and vertebral health is to sit as if you had a tail — upper body relaxed, but pelvis rotated to untuck the rump. also, fold your laundry for once, instead of just living out of a bag. even if no one else will know, you will, and little acts of self-respect like that can mean a lot. if you think about it, you pretty much owe yourself that much
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Sep 23, 2019 05:48
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Sep 23, 2019 05:48
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Dreddout posted:That's not what the term global north means moron lol
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Sep 23, 2019 05:51
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Stocking posted:like the point of saying "whata bout america" or whatever isnt to say that it happens everywhere so its ok or to divert from the topic at hand but to explore the fact that someone who'se acting all worked up about one thing but don't give a gently caress about another similar or worse thing is either doing so because they have some ulterior unstated motive of they just stupid, often both sincx posted:The fundamental reason why hypocrisy (which is "whataboutism" boils down to) isn't generally a valid argument is that two wrongs don't make a right. More importantly we're in the China thread. I don't get how people can keep going "well what about America!?!" when we're in the China thread. Why do they keep wanting to change the topic of off China in the China thread?
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Sep 23, 2019 05:57
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https://twitter.com/GretaThunberg/status/1128344612186279937?s=20 lolling at this blatant regime change bullshit. the hong kong police have let protestors smash shops and burn down subway stations, but a demonstration about global warming is surely a bridge too far. Bloodnose posted:We're in the China thread. We're in the China thread is the new discendo vox style "read the OP"
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Sep 23, 2019 05:57
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I mean I know the answer to why they keep trying to change the subject is there were just 90+ posts of literally genocide apologia and the only way they can handle that "hey look over there" but seriously let me remind the world that Peven Stan, Typo, and Horseshoe Theory looked at Holocaust trains to concentration camps and said "heh yeah but what about ICE." Here: ICE is bad. Abolish ICE. There we're done with that. Now back here in the China thread, a religious minority is being shackled and sent off to camps by the millions. That is bad.
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Sep 23, 2019 06:02
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Bloodnose posted:Now back here in the China thread, a religious minority is being shackled and sent off to camps by the millions. That is bad. Just because your employer decrees it to be true doesn't mean that it is true. This isn't the cultural revolution- repeating mantras and aggressively policing the groupthink in the thread just makes western liberals look desperate. Despite all the sturm and drang, why hasn't trump commented on the alleged millions in camps? Surely he could use that as a wedge in trade negotiations?
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Sep 23, 2019 06:05
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Bloodnose posted:I mean I know the answer to why they keep trying to change the subject is there were just 90+ posts of literally genocide apologia and the only way they can handle that "hey look over there" but seriously let me remind the world that Peven Stan, Typo, and Horseshoe Theory looked at Holocaust trains to concentration camps and said "heh yeah but what about ICE." i've heard that their rights are respected tho
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Sep 23, 2019 06:06
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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:Just because your employer decrees it to be true doesn't mean that it is true. This isn't the cultural revolution- repeating mantras and aggressively policing the groupthink in the thread just makes western liberals look desperate. Despite all the sturm and drang, why hasn't trump commented on the alleged millions in camps? Surely he could use that as a wedge in trade negotiations? he doesn't want to draw attention to his own growing concentration camp system op
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Sep 23, 2019 06:06
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