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Paradoxish posted:This is a problem that can't be solved by consumer action. Just to be clear: nobody said that it is.
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theflyingorc posted:I think what McConnell will PROBABLY do is slam the vote through in 20 minutes, dismissing it as partisan nonsense. He tries to not do things that draw attention to himself, and I think that not hearing impeachment will catch public attention much more than not hearing judges. I think it's more likely that he just says "there aren't the votes to convict" and sits on it. Why make his members take the vote?
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eke out posted:What? No, opening an impeachment inquiry absolutely does give them additional authority, they no longer have to show that their subpoenas have a legitimate legislative purpose and several other hurdles in the way disappear (e.g.: 6(e) grand jury secrecy). Thanks for the clarification. After more looking I found a good explanation of the differences here: https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-powers-does-formal-impeachment-inquiry-give-house It's worth a look if you're interested.
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FizFashizzle posted:it's going great jesus christ thats pathetic. just get glasses.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:jesus christ thats pathetic. just get glasses.  I mean he just looks so good without them...
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He wears them on AirforceOne and at home. He just doesn't like to be seen in them in public.
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eke out posted:yeah this is very obviously a demonstration of the "trump needs glasses and refuses to get them" theory Muslim Ban! Trumpy needs glasses... Muslim Ban! Trumpy needs glasses...
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Now he's attacking abortion as a right and saying we'll never support the UN arms control treaty, again like said this is poo poo meant to be strong and powerful but he's just kinda lazily monotoning it.
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Paradoxish posted:We'll never pull that off, but even slightly more realistic plans for aggressive action will mean a world that's going to be drastically different by 2030. This is a problem that can't be solved by consumer action. With the current state of politics, the US will never invest in carbon sequestering technology either, thanks to the Middle American death cults that exalt guns, greed and profit. We unfortunately need to start public works today, but I can’t see anything happening at all with the way the Republicans need to block any public good unless they personally profit from it. My only vain hope is that we bring back earmarks and pork-barrel poo poo to bribe Oklahoma and Texas to let us install wind and solar energy, and to bribe a few politicians to look the other way as we create research grants for carbon sequestering tech. Basically this but fistfuls of cash instead of keys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5iACzPvf1o
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mcmagic posted:I think it's more likely that he just says "there aren't the votes to convict" and sits on it. Why make his members take the vote? But again, I don't have evidence to argue that you're wrong, it's definitely just what I suspect.
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AhhYes posted:Thanks for the clarification. yeah, this is a good piece that summarizes it. in short: yes, impeachment inquiry Good
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theflyingorc posted:Biden is the least important part of the whole thing. It's the "openly doing the exact loving thing the Mueller report supposedly cleared him of" that they're not happy about. nah. the Biden part is important. not because it's Biden in particular. but because it's Trump finally violating the only norm that any of them -actually- give a poo poo about. none of the things that have horrified you have any meaning whatsoever for the mummified corpses in the party elite. the few of them who have any idea what the outcomes of their policies actually are? 100% on-board with a policy of "cage the mexicans and toss them in shallow graves," as they showed you back over the summer. the Kavanaugh thing? they went to school with a dozen exactly like him, and they look back on their beach weeks with fondness. kids these days don't know how to have a good time. taxes? they could give a gently caress about taxes, they'll carry on not paying them same as Trump. but going after your idiot nephew's sinecure with Blue Cross Blue Shield? that's telling members of congress like they are subject to political action. like normal people. what was that fun line of Dr. King's, about the white moderate, and the way he reacts the second he stands to lose the slightest loving thing.
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hahahah the loving idiot brought up cancel culture at the UN. stephen miller's such a wimpy disphit.
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FizFashizzle posted:
you can't polish poo poo. hell same. https://twitter.com/HayesBrown/status/1176505661112426498 also gently caress this rear end in a top hat. https://twitter.com/HayesBrown/status/1176507916083499009 lol Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 15:55 on Sep 24, 2019 |
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https://twitter.com/HowardMortman/status/1176506557762363392 What hole did they pull Tiffany out of?
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sexpig by night posted:lol I had to check out fox and they're 100% on "THIS WAS A POWERFUL, MIGHTY, SPEECH SETTING OUT WHAT TRUMP DOCTRINE IS!" What a bunch of pussies.  lol
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Kavros posted:Sometimes it's a bad joke. The straw ban was for coastal communities because dipshits can't put their trash into a loving can and it ends up in the storm sewers and then the ocean. The only planted agenda is Republicans extrapolating it across the country as government overreach.
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Groovelord Neato posted:why is don jr's girlfriend there? Most of the royal court attends world stage events.
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The party that is telling us how Antisemitic the Democrats are is at the UN decrying "globalists"
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hypocrisy is obviously meaningless but lol at a guy who's kept himself afloat via licensing his name to overseas developments whining about globalism.
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Ripoff posted:With the current state of politics, the US will never invest in carbon sequestering technology either, thanks to the Middle American death cults that exalt guns, greed and profit. We unfortunately need to start public works today, but I can’t see anything happening at all with the way the Republicans need to block any public good unless they personally profit from it. My only vain hope is that we bring back earmarks and pork-barrel poo poo to bribe Oklahoma and Texas to let us install wind and solar energy, and to bribe a few politicians to look the other way as we create research grants for carbon sequestering tech. It's too much to get into in this thread, but CCS is a pipe dream and unlikely to ever be even remotely economical at scale. Doesn't mean we won't have to make heavy use of it at some point, but it's going to be something that we'll do long after we've stopped emitting entirely. The reality of our situation is that we waited too goddamn long and we're now locked into either crash decarbonization or complete disaster.
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I'm interested in seeing polls. I wonder if this Ukraine stuff is changing anyone's mind. There is a part of the his rubes that will love him strong arming a foreign country for aid (which they don't believe in to begin with) to own the libs.
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fool_of_sound posted:The next best thing is 'stop eating beef', because beef ranching is worse that almost all other human agriculture combined. Yeah that’s true. But asking someone to stop eating beef is like asking someone to stop eating meat. The idea of such a massive change means most people won’t bother. Eat less meat is an easier message to sell though. Arglebargle III posted:True, I will stop driving my 50 million consumer cars and eating my 20 million head of cattle each year. Too bad even I with my superpowers cannot stop the other 71% of climate emissions. If only there was some entity capable of restraining people by formal codes backed by a monopoly on violence. You’re right. It’s pointless to do anything. Might as well not bother. 🤦♂️ theflyingorc posted:By your own numbers, if we managed to knock Agriculture down to effectively 0...we're still at 90% of emissions. If we all start walking everywhere instead of using personal vehicles, we're at like...70%. Which is a big difference, but also does not solve the problem. The long term trick is making it so that modern society's needs come from sources that don't spew carbon. I don’t know if you know this, but modern society is made up of people like you and me, and if enough people get together and do a Thing then society changes. mango sentinel posted:Individual consumers are incapable of stopping this, it requires government intervention to change. Shut up.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Women4Trump co founder Isn't this taking the Lord's name in vain?
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Boris Galerkin posted:Yeah that’s true. But asking someone to stop eating beef is like asking someone to stop eating meat. The idea of such a massive change means most people won’t bother.
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Beyond needs to figure out a better maillard reaction, I already tried the product as is cooked at home, and it's not great.
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Trees have been sequestering carbon for 300 million years. Go plant more of them
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ColdPie posted:Just to be clear: nobody said that it is. Yeah it’s not an either/or thing ffs. We can do poo poo like stop eating meat while at the same time demanding our politicians to enact policies. Stop being so negative and nothing matters because you’re just wrong. Something to think about : some years back Bernie was a “radical socialist” and “socialism” was evil and nobody wanted “socialism” and nobody talked about it. Today we have young progressive “socialists” making headlines, writing laws, inspiring others to follow their footsteps, “socialism” is no longer a taboo subject, and communities like this one is full of people that would identify as “socialist.” That didn’t start from the top. This came from a movement of people who got the message and pushed for it, normalizing it. This came from little people like us.
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We should make every positive consumer choice we can. We also need to take up the one sword that can save us, our own government, pointed at the throat of every company that can make a difference Nonsense posted:Beyond needs to figure out a better maillard reaction, I already tried the product as is cooked at home, and it's not great. Don't broil it, use olive oil. RuanGacho fucked around with this message at 16:23 on Sep 24, 2019 |
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I don't even know what the issue is. The United States exists to compel.
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So yeah, we're too the point where he's openly confessing his crimes in front of the world and Republicans still will give him cover. https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1176499836054622209?s=20
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theflyingorc posted:You seem to be doing an excellent job of missing the point. So tell me what’s the point? That banning straws, choosing to eat less meats, etc, doesn’t really do anything because there are companies out there that put out more pollution that dwarf what we can affect? That in order for something to be impactful, that it needs to be directed top-down from world governments? Yeah I got those points. Who controls the companies? People do. Who controls the governments? People do. Why should those companies and countries do anything if we the people don’t make it clear that this is what we want?
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