USPOL Fall: Biden the hand that feeds you

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Pissed Ape Sexist: Apr 19, 2008

Holy poo poo, evilweasel's back. Neat.

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nine-gear crow: Aug 10, 2013

And here. We. Go.

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evilweasel: Aug 24, 2002

Pissed Ape Sexist posted:

Holy poo poo, evilweasel's back. Neat.

i can't resist actual impeachment

# ? Sep 24, 2019 22:05

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evilweasel posted:

as a result, boris is favored if he can call an early election, because he may have eliminated his spoiler while corbyn didn't eliminate his. that may change if he's forced past 10/31 and forced to extend.

Excellent summary, thanks!

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Pissed Ape Sexist posted:

Holy poo poo, evilweasel's back. Neat.

He�s Gandalf back to herald the turn of the tide.

# ? Sep 24, 2019 22:06

fishing with the fam: Feb 29, 2008; Durr

Official. Impeachment. Inquiry.

Holy poo poo. Pelosi actually said it.

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Nazzadan: Jun 22, 2016

Well, there we go

# ? Sep 24, 2019 22:06

Tormented: Jan 22, 2004; "And the goat shall bear upon itself all their iniquities unto a solitary place..."

Impeachment is on. Its happening.

# ? Sep 24, 2019 22:06

1stGear: Jan 16, 2010; Here's to the new us.

Its official. She's establishing an impeachment inquiry.

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skylined!: Apr 6, 2012; THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

So confirmed, all six committees moving forward with current investigations but with heightened impeachment powers.

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mdemone: Mar 14, 2001

evilweasel posted:

i can't resist actual impeachment

You know what, nothing might matter, but by god something is happening

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Solkanar512: Dec 28, 2006; by the sex ghost

Impeachment inquiry!

# ? Sep 24, 2019 22:06

RandomBlue: Dec 30, 2012; hay guys!; Biscuit Hider

Wow this is a try-hard bullshit speech.

e: Though of course I'm glad she's finally starting an actual impeachment inquiry.

# ? Sep 24, 2019 22:06

Solaris 2.0: May 14, 2008

evilweasel posted:

no

basically, think of Parliament like the House of Representatives. every district votes, the plurality winner takes the whole seat. it's not proportional representation.

about half of the UK is "leave" and about half is "remain", no need to get more precise than that.

labor is not a remain party. they have substantial amounts of "leave" voters and corbyn will not campaign on a "remain" platform. similarly, the tories were not a "leave" party - they had lots of "remain" voters.

beyond labor, there are some assorted left-wing parties, most notably the Liberal Democrats (formerly a strong third party, but then they sold their soul to join with the tories in a coalition government) who are the only party with a formal "remain" platform. on the right, there's the brexit party, a hard "leave" party. now, you can easily form a coalition when elected: if there's a majority of leftist seats they control parliament even if no one leftist party has a majority.

but that is not the case in the actual election. in a labor v. tories election, the real issue is how many seats that should go "left" or "right" get flipped via the spoiler effect (e.g. 10 conservative votes, 8 labor votes, 4 libdem votes goes to the conservatives despite a "left" majority; or 10 labor, 8 conservatives, 4 brexit). so even if Boris only has a solid 45% of the vote, and the other parties have 55% (numbers picked out of a hat) he has a very good chance of winning, IF he can eliminate the spoiler on his side.

that is what his plan basically has been: he's moved hard towards the brexit party to try to marginalize them and collect all of their votes, while playing on Labor's inability to come out as a hard "remain" party and thereby steal the conservative votes that he places at risk by going hard leave (corbyn being so far left also assists him there, making it easier to hold onto tory remainers). corbyn can't eliminate his spoilers without coming out as a remain party, and he's been more wishy-washy on that than may was.

as a result, boris is favored if he can call an early election, because he may have eliminated his spoiler while corbyn didn't eliminate his. that may change if he's forced past 10/31 and forced to extend.

loving Hell somehow the UK is more of a cluster gently caress than our lovely national government and that is saying something, this day of impeachment.

I hope they get through Brexit OK, I have a few friends in London from my time studying abroad. :smith:

*EDIT*

lol that reporter question "DURRRRRRRR WHAT DOES THIS ACCOMPLISH IF THE SENATE DOESN'T CONVICT??"

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The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

Kind stumbling a bit towards the end, but its official now

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FizFashizzle: Mar 30, 2005

Pissed Ape Sexist posted:

Holy poo poo, evilweasel's back. Neat.

He's been a fervent advocate for hand job rights for months now.

# ? Sep 24, 2019 22:07

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The times finally found wherever Pelosi has been hiding.

# ? Sep 24, 2019 22:07

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RZA Encryption posted:

I just want to say: I would absolutely love it if:

the impeachment inquiry wears him down enough to either rage quit or not seek re-election

Biden loses the nomination anyway

Well yeah that's best case scenario so it definitely won't happen due to own goals

# ? Sep 24, 2019 22:07

Space Cadet Omoly: Jan 15, 2014; ~Groovy~

Oh poo poo, it's real. I know hope is for suckers, but it feels good to see something happening :unsmith:

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CuddleCryptid: Jan 11, 2013; Things could be going better

"What does this accomplish if the Senate won't convict?" is the best question the pool can come up with?

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ThanosWasRight: May 12, 2019; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Just me or was she having some issues with her teeth?

Does she wear dentures?

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ManBoyChef: Aug 1, 2019; Deadbeat Dad

RZA Encryption posted:

I just want to say: I would absolutely love it if:

the impeachment inquiry wears him down enough to either rage quit or not seek re-election

Biden loses the nomination anyway

This is exactly what I was thinking. Unfortunately I have a feeling that the next choice is going to be warren though and she isnt enough change to really make our lives better. There are a lot of moderate boomers and gen xers out there. hopefully we get the millenials like me out

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RandomBlue: Dec 30, 2012; hay guys!; Biscuit Hider

That was super short. 7 minutes in heaven with Nancy Pelosi.

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Nazzadan: Jun 22, 2016

It kinda felt like she's really only on board this time because he's loving with whistleblowers which is a pet project of hers, but oh well at least we're here now.

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Pollyanna: Mar 5, 2005; Milk's on them.

Huh. The House actually tried for impeachment a little.

Next up is collecting evidence and then a vote, right?

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Shimrra Jamaane posted:

So who will be the first TV pundit to ask the question �was this actually a good day for President Trump?�

Laura Ingram on the right and Nate Silver on the left

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1stGear: Jan 16, 2010; Here's to the new us.

RandomBlue posted:

That was super short. 7 minutes in heaven with Nancy Pelosi.

I'm guessing she's gonna be pretty busy for the next few weeks.

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skylined!: Apr 6, 2012; THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

Xarthor posted:

Laura Ingram on the right and Nate Silver on the left

Please do not claim silverbacks for the Left. He's a libertarian at best.

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evilweasel: Aug 24, 2002

RZA Encryption posted:

I just want to say: I would absolutely love it if:

the impeachment inquiry wears him down enough to either rage quit or not seek re-election

Biden loses the nomination anyway

i think biden was sliding into a 50-50 race with warren but i think this whole thing is the best news he's had in months

ain't nothing like the president committing crimes to try to torpedo your campaign to burnish your credentials as the man trump is terrified to run against

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Pissed Ape Sexist: Apr 19, 2008

FizFashizzle posted:

He's been a fervent advocate for hand job rights for months now.

Always nice to welcome back some experienced thought leaders with applicable expertise

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Willo567: Feb 5, 2015; Cheating helped me fail the test and stay on the show.

https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1176172980688187392

Get hosed old man.

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mdemone: Mar 14, 2001

CuddleCryptid posted:

"What does this accomplish if the Senate won't convict?" is the best question the pool can come up with?

It's a planted question because it absolutely matters that Dems come out saying "we have to shine the light on crimes even if the senate won't convict"

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funeral home DJ: Apr 21, 2003; Pillbug

�If you can keep it� better be your mantra through this thing Pelosi because we�re gonna need a spine here.

Pollyanna posted:

Huh. The House actually tried for impeachment a little.

Next up is collecting evidence and then a vote, right?

Yep. This can take a while, but hopefully they�ll be dropping juicy facts and figures for us throughout the proceedings. Just enough to get the public enraged and more republicans to retire.

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mdemone: Mar 14, 2001

Willo567 posted:

https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1176172980688187392

Get hosed old man.

The only good part about bootlickers is eventually they become just another stomped face.

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evilweasel: Aug 24, 2002

FizFashizzle posted:

He's been a fervent advocate for hand job rights for months now.

should a billionaire really be criticized for his urge to keep in touch with the working class

# ? Sep 24, 2019 22:11

There Bias Two: Jan 13, 2009; I'm not a good person

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1176604222709751809
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1176605037700759558

He's at it.

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Chris Wallace on Fox News saying "There's some meat on the bones, here."

:wow:

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BigBallChunkyTime: Nov 25, 2011; Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.; Illegal Hen

it'shappening.gif

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The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

evilweasel posted:

i think biden was sliding into a 50-50 race with warren but i think this whole thing is the best news he's had in months

ain't nothing like the president committing crimes to try to torpedo your campaign to burnish your credentials as the man trump is terrified to run against

Yeah, I don't know if he has anyone smart enough running his campaign to go with it, but the angle of "Trump is so afraid of me that he had to commit massive amounts of crimes to try to undercut me" isn't a terrible sales pitch.

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