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Amethyst posted:They will obviously form a coalition with labor if necessary Do not discount the Lib Dem's ability to gently caress up monumentally
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thatfatkid posted:Tldr the woke angry about climate change 16yo is being used as a mascot for the capitalist class to profit off of the climate crisis. Yeah nah gently caress off.
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Sep 25, 2019 08:46
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Amethyst posted:They will obviously form a coalition with labor if necessary Assuming they have the chance, since vote splitting is a real problem in a FPTP system.
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Sep 25, 2019 08:49
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Assuming they have the chance, since vote splitting is a real problem in a FPTP system. Blame lib dems for that, they’re the splitters.
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Sep 25, 2019 08:56
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Yeah nah gently caress off. he’s right you idiot, notice that he didn’t say anything about her being a bad faith actor (because it’s irrelevant)
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Sep 25, 2019 09:04
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Jonah Galtberg posted:he’s right you idiot, notice that he didn’t say anything about her being a bad faith actor (because it’s irrelevant) He’s not right. He’s jumping at shadows and forming a narrative that disempowers any effective modern mass leftist movement. Oh no! Public relations strategy! SOCIAL MEDIA! neoliberalism!! Go tell those kids at protest marches they are marionettes on puppet strings. They’ll laugh at you because you are an outmoded fool.
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Amethyst posted:He’s not right. He’s jumping at shadows and forming a narrative that disempowers any effective modern mass leftist movement. I wouldn’t tell kids at protest marches they’re being used, I would tell them about the ways in which capitalism is fundamentally incapable of addressing a problem like climate change and that nothing can be gained by expecting the class that is both responsible for the problem and is the most insulated from its effects to do anything about it. We’re already being prepared for ecofascism, the rich would rather rule over the post-apocalypse than give up their stranglehold on power to prevent most of the world from dying
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Sep 25, 2019 09:17
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Amethyst posted:Blame lib dems for that, they’re the splitters. Remain voters want to vote for a party that supports Remain. Corbyn's current position is to negotiate a deal and then hold a referendum on which he'll remain neutral and uhhh is it a surprise people aren't leaping to vote for that? Corbyn is great on so many issues but Brexit is the only game in town.
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Sep 25, 2019 09:20
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Jonah Galtberg posted:I wouldn’t tell kids at protest marches they’re being used, I would tell them about the ways in which capitalism is fundamentally incapable of addressing a problem like climate change and that nothing can be gained by expecting the class that is both responsible for the problem and is the most insulated from its effects to do anything about it. We’re already being prepared for ecofascism, the rich would rather rule over the post-apocalypse than give up their stranglehold on power to prevent most of the world from dying Is your assertion here that we are hosed so why try? Better to just sit and await death?
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Sep 25, 2019 09:28
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thatfatkid posted:Tldr the woke angry about climate change 16yo is being used as a mascot for the capitalist class to profit off of the climate crisis. thats so trite i thought theres no way that could be your point. did you really need to read that to know this? if it exists people will try and make money from it. if its popular, business will glom onto it. if a business is doing something its because they expect to make money from it. this applies to everything. ive just saved you countless hours of reading screeds in the future youre welcome.
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Sep 25, 2019 09:29
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Remain voters want to vote for a party that supports Remain. But playing the middle ground worked so well for Labor with Adani, why wouldn't Labour do it for an issue that directly effects the entire UK? Just like with Shorten, posters in the UKMT have been arguing "no but the polls are wrong and also the leader's personal popularity doesn't matter because the whole country doesn't vote for him, just his electorate". It's uncanny.
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Sep 25, 2019 09:30
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seven thousand words to say coles doesnt actually care about farmers affected by droughts they just want your money
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Sep 25, 2019 09:31
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im having my freaking mind blown over here!
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Sep 25, 2019 09:34
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It's easy to win elections just do a tax cut and punch hell out of the bottom 10% of your citizens.
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https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/sep/25/andrew-forrest-launches-us300m-war-on-plastic-to-tackle-ocean-pollutionquote:Mining billionaire Andrew “Twiggy” Forrest is launching a business-driven initiative to try to tackle the hundreds of millions of tonnes of plastic waste produced every year around the globe.
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SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:thats so trite i thought theres no way that could be your point. did you really need to read that to know this? if it exists people will try and make money from it. if its popular, business will glom onto it. if a business is doing something its because they expect to make money from it. this applies to everything. ive just saved you countless hours of reading screeds in the future youre welcome. lol calm down m8 Amethyst posted:He’s not right. He’s jumping at shadows and forming a narrative that disempowers any effective modern mass leftist movement. do you always break down into hysterics when someone doesn't agree with you about current events? thatfatkid fucked around with this message at 09:41 on Sep 25, 2019 |
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Sep 25, 2019 09:39
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Who gives a gently caress if someone makes money off stopping climate change lmao
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Jonah Galtberg posted:I wouldn’t tell kids at protest marches they’re being used, I would tell them about the ways in which capitalism is fundamentally incapable of addressing a problem like climate change and that nothing can be gained by expecting the class that is both responsible for the problem and is the most insulated from its effects to do anything about it. We’re already being prepared for ecofascism, the rich would rather rule over the post-apocalypse than give up their stranglehold on power to prevent most of the world from dying Unless you’re going to give the school kids assault rifles and point them at the CBD and parliament I’m really not sure what solution you’re suggesting
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abigserve posted:Is your assertion here that we are hosed so why try? Better to just sit and await death? No, that is not my assertion
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thatfatkid posted:lol calm down m8 You’re the one who posted this bad debord fan fiction. The least you can do is attempt to defend it.
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*global movement against climate change inaction mobilizes millions of people world wide* *Idiots itt* "lol this sucks"
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Don Dongington posted:*global movement against climate change inaction mobilizes millions of people world wide* nobody is saying that millions of people shouldn't be mobilising but solid effort
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Tankie
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Jonah Galtberg posted:he’s right you idiot, notice that he didn’t say anything about her being a bad faith actor (because it’s irrelevant) The worthless heap of poo poo article from what looks like some rear end in a top hat with a blog said Greta / those supporting her are without any worthwhile citationsc are acting in bad faith - this is EXACTLY the kind of poo poo the right wing do to muddy the waters and to try to discredit people. Come on, are you being naive or just not cynical enough? He's a bad faith poster, throwing up a bad faith article. You can quite rightly tell people like that to gently caress off and dismiss their bullshit without further comment. Especially when the fuckers who are actively destroying the planet have claimed far FAR more money than any hypothetical profit some rando will make from helping fix that problem.
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Lid posted:Tankie when you have a one word vocabulary
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Jonah Galtberg posted:when you have a one word vocabulary when you get called out for trying to swing a climate change protest as either a bad or at least misguided thing
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Jonah Galtberg posted:when you have a one word vocabulary honk honk
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This is certainly a timely tweet!
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Bernstrike posted:this is from 2005 lmao
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abigserve posted:when you get called out for trying to swing a climate change protest as either a bad or at least misguided thing can’t believe that someone who doesn’t think capitalism can solve climate change would consider a protest that isn’t calling for the end of capitalism to be insufficient
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lol sorry, that just got retweeted today and i didn't even look at the date (to save face) it would be interesting to know how much hillsong has received from the government from 2013-2018 and then from 2018 onward, so we could compare them and get an idea of the trends
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faith in humanity shattered by the revelation that betoota advocate take cash for comment
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Jonah Galtberg posted:can’t believe that someone who doesn’t think capitalism can solve climate change would consider a protest that isn’t calling for the end of capitalism to be insufficient your solution to climate change is to restart all of society. Gotcha. Nice excuse you got there for not contributing and you get the bonus of being able to look down your nose at people too, double points. JBP posted:Who gives a gently caress if someone makes money off stopping climate change lmao
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abigserve posted:your solution to climate change is to restart all of society. socialism is the next and final step in society's advancement, not a restart  if I thought capitalism was capable of solving climate change then of course I wouldn't give a gently caress about someone making money off of it (aside from all the other reasons it should be done away with)
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if things continue on their current path i think we really will get some beautiful and harmonious communes springing up in time from the ashes, hopefully some of us will be alive to join them
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Jonah Galtberg posted:socialism is the next and final step in society's advancement, not a restart How are you dummies still spouting nonsense about the march of history after all this time?
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