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STR posted:I mean it's basically the SA version of this.. this is my new favorite story, thanks.
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Dr. Memory posted:Lordymama it's got popups. I'm in love. Wrong thread
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Colostomy Bag posted:Uh, driving a Northstar is basically the end of times. Fair. L-whatever the hell the FWD LSx was, then. fake edit: that VVV Boaz MacPhereson posted:Somehow, you managed to misspell LS4. I did, in a moment of weakness. Colostomy Bag posted:Just wanted to say thanks for pointing out crap engines. The 307 is of course another one but didn't really know much about the 260. The 260 was an oddball. Still an Olds V8, but with tiny bores to get the dinky displacement. The 307 was just the 350 Olds with smaller bore as well, but not *as* small as the 260. Wikipedia claims the 260 was almost as economical as the 3.8 Buick, but smoother and more durable. The biggest plus it had was that the 5-speed was available behind it in some models. I almost scored an '80 (I think it was) Cutlass with 260/5-speed somewhere in the '90s, but it was already gone by the time I spotted it in the Auto Trader. The biggest failings of the 260 and 307 wasn't really the engines themselves, but that they were created solely for low-power emissions laden uses, and thus were low-compression mildly-cammed milquetoast engines. And the 260 was used in the malaise-era A-bodies, mostly, which were notably heavy. Did not leave a good impression. The 307 at least got a high-output version in the Hurst/Olds and 442 (180 HP,) the 200-4R overdrive automatic rather than the TH200 3-speed, and was in the lighter G-bodies (and also B-bodies, though.) Also roller lifters, forgot about those. xzzy posted:If I had that car I would get '6000SUX' for the license plate. I like you. I like the Quicksilver, but I get that, totally.
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Someone mentioned Trabants.
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xzzy posted:If I had that car I would get '6000SUX' for the license plate.
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Dr. Memory posted:Lordymama it's got popups. I'm in love.  I love this. I usually don't like a lot of chrome on cars, but man that front end looks cool. I would daily this with pride. Cyberpunk supervillian car indeed.xzzy posted:If I had that car I would get '6000SUX' for the license plate. lol
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Sep 25, 2019 02:18
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I'd buy that for a dollar!
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TotalLossBrain posted:Someone mentioned Trabants. Wrong thread.
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Olympic Mathlete posted:Wrong thread. Right thread at that price.
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Sep 25, 2019 08:04
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Nah 13 euros 20 cents is about right.
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Sep 25, 2019 13:34
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Darchangel posted:The 260 was an oddball. Still an Olds V8, but with tiny bores to get the dinky displacement. The 307 was just the 350 Olds with smaller bore as well, but not *as* small as the 260. Also, GM was throwing 307s in every Cadillac that wasn't a transverse-FWD box back in the 80s. I wasn't lucky enough to get the "VIN 9" high-output 307 in the '88 Brougham I briefly had -- just the lo-po 140 HP version. It had all the performance of a soft fart, even after a tune-up and a rebuilt carb. It was the only car that I couldn't get at least a one-wheel peel out of. At the same time I had a '90 Town Car with the 150 HP 5.0 V8, which felt downright athletic compared to the 307. And yes, fuel injected vs. carbed. But still....
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For most of us old fucks the 307 will reign supreme as the ultimate disaster. Well behind, the Olds 350 diesel, or the Vega where the intake would fall off, or the V8-6-4, eh nevermind.
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I’ve been visiting Cars in Barns recently and despite the site looking like it hasn’t been updated since 1996 I find it fascinating and also sort of infuriating. I can’t believe around the turn of the century there were all of these Superbirds, Challengers, early C3 Vettes, etc. just sitting around. Also in one of the posts some guy bought a ‘Cuda for like $500.00 which seems insane to me now.
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I don’t get why you would leave a desirable car outside to rot, unless you lived in an extremely arid climate. Either put it away or sell the drat thing.
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Oh, yes, the 307 was definitely disappointing, but so was most everything of the era, thanks to the manufacturers loving around and scrambling last minute to meet emissions requirements that they knew were coming. Thankfully, that forced them into fuel injection and better engine design, eventually bringing about some really good to great performance while still having decent economy. Only took, what, 30 years?
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Frond posted:I don’t get why you would leave a desirable car outside to rot, unless you lived in an extremely arid climate. Either put it away or sell the drat thing. "I'm gonna work on it someday." A day that never comes. Also, a deep-down fear of someone else profiting from your inaction.
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Man I wish cargolaw.com hadn’t quit updating
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Frond posted:I’ve been visiting Cars in Barns recently and despite the site looking like it hasn’t been updated since 1996 I find it fascinating and also sort of infuriating. I can’t believe around the turn of the century there were all of these Superbirds, Challengers, early C3 Vettes, etc. just sitting around. Also in one of the posts some guy bought a ‘Cuda for like $500.00 which seems insane to me now. When gas got expensive, and everyone was concerned about mileage, and emissions, and started a family, the '70s musclecars fall out of favor. No one could afford gas for them, and those that could wanted something else. There wasn't an internet to hype interest where there was none, and there you go. At one time, they were ubiquitous, and the greater populace never really thought they'd be something of value in the future. It's easy to see in retrospect, but it happens all the time. I mean, once upon a time, a '55 Chevy coupe was just another 20-year-old car, and there were lots of them, right? Look how many what we now consider classics were mangled in racing, demolition derbies, etc. because they were just "old, common cars" at the time. EDIT: Balliver Shagnasty posted:"I'm gonna work on it someday." Some of that, too.
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Balliver Shagnasty posted:"I'm gonna work on it someday." Where I live, eventually there would be nothing left.
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Darchangel posted:When gas got expensive, and everyone was concerned about mileage, and emissions, and started a family, the '70s musclecars fall out of favor. No one could afford gas for them, and those that could wanted something else. There wasn't an internet to hype interest where there was none, and there you go. At one time, they were ubiquitous, and the greater populace never really thought they'd be something of value in the future. Makes sense. Also it showed me how much better modern car’s (like mid-80s onward) reliability was. Some of the cars on there were parked after less than a decade of use due to serious mechanical problems.
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It's always fun to think of what will be future classics. Some of the cars boomers go crazy for were once just regular rear end family sedans with big motors, the kind of thing nobody gave a single poo poo about when they first came out but remember favorably now. I can't wait to see people going crazy for mid 90s Accords or something thirty years from now. Me in 2050: "Holy poo poo a mint condition 1998 Neon R/T! I mean it's no SRT-4 but who can afford one of those anymore?"
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Darchangel posted:When gas got expensive, and everyone was concerned about mileage, and emissions, and started a family, the '70s musclecars fall out of favor. No one could afford gas for them, and those that could wanted something else. There wasn't an internet to hype interest where there was none, and there you go. At one time, they were ubiquitous, and the greater populace never really thought they'd be something of value in the future. This. A combination of factors. Different time. And loading on a lot of different factors. 67 Camaro for 3K? 440 Road Runner for 3K at a gas station/service place? That you could walk up to after hours and pop the hood? '66 Barracuda in green with white interior with the rear console on a used car lot in mint condition. Yeah, think 1990.
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 The boys at Grease Monkey went a little high on my friends truck.
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Surprised those didn’t blow off the rim tbh
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:Surprised those didn’t blow off the rim tbh Based on the cluster, I'm picturing someone who lied about their experience seeing (80psi max) on the sidewall of a 10 ply tire and taking it as gospel. I hope he drove over a piece of paper to see how many 16ths of an inch of contact the center of the tread had with the road.
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Apparently my friend said just put in what's on the Tire which is 80. I think it's supposed to be 40.
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Colostomy Bag posted:This. A combination of factors. Yeah, I remember that poo poo. What sucks is that my brain still wants to take those prices as gospel, and freaks out when it sees actual current prices.
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Darchangel posted:When gas got expensive, and everyone was concerned about mileage, and emissions, and started a family, the '70s musclecars fall out of favor. No one could afford gas for them, and those that could wanted something else. There wasn't an internet to hype interest where there was none, and there you go. At one time, they were ubiquitous, and the greater populace never really thought they'd be something of value in the future. Yeah, that's basically what my Dad said to me when I was ogling '50s cars as a kid. He remembered when they were new and couldn't fathom why anyone would be interested in them. Now I'm the same way when I see people going nuts about '80s cars. They were poo poo when they were new, I don't get why anyone cares about them now. We seem to be most fascinated by the cars built in the decade before we were born. I don't really know why.
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Deteriorata posted:We seem to be most fascinated by the cars built in the decade before we were born. I don't really know why. I think older cars are just one of the many ways we vicariously experience a decade we weren't born in. 1970s cars fascinated me for the same reason, where I couldn't really give a poo poo about most 1980s iron, since I grew up riding around in those cars. Dave Inc. posted:I can't wait to see people going crazy for ftfy
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StormDrain posted:
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Deteriorata posted:Yeah, that's basically what my Dad said to me when I was ogling '50s cars as a kid. He remembered when they were new and couldn't fathom why anyone would be interested in them. Now I'm the same way when I see people going nuts about '80s cars. They were poo poo when they were new, I don't get why anyone cares about them now. That's because 50's cars were and still are cool while cars built in the 80s are literally the worst generation of cars, especially malaise era American ones. The Countach and Testerossa might be the only nice cars built in that decade.
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mustard_tiger posted:That's because 50's cars were and still are cool while cars built in the 80s are literally the worst generation of cars, especially malaise era American ones. The Countach and Testerossa might be the only nice cars built in that decade. No Countach or Testarossa, but couldn't help but think of this poster: 
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Balliver Shagnasty posted:No Countach or Testarossa, but couldn't help but think of this poster: "gently caress college, selling cocaine is where the money is!"
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Balliver Shagnasty posted:No Countach or Testarossa, but couldn't help but think of this poster: I remember that poster, and several other variants. We like cars from the decade before we were born because that means they are *everywhere* as used, common cars when we were at our most impressionable. It's a nostalgia thing - for a lot of us, they trigger memories of carefree, happy days. That simple.
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Being a kid of the 80's I remember people lusting after late 60's and early 70's muscle cars, like seeing a 69 Charger was the poo poo then even. A buddy of mine had a 340 Duster with a manual and we'd do donuts in parking lots, another one had a Cutlass with the 350 rocket, everyone wanted a Mopar or a GM coupe. My aunt had a 440 Challenger and it was a big deal then. Now it's crazy, I can't remember that last time I've seen any of those in the wild.
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Wasabi the J posted:All I'm getting out of that poster is: All i can think is "if they had access to all the cars to get pictures, why didn't they take them at varying angles to account for perspective?
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Powershift posted:All i can think is "if they had access to all the cars to get pictures, why didn't they take them at varying angles to account for perspective? "Why didn't he build a garage deep enough to get his cars all the way in?"
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Darchangel posted:I remember that poster, and several other variants. I dunno, I was born in '78 and I always loved the supercars from the late 80's because I thought they looked cool. It was certainly cool that they were the fastest cars around at the time, but they aren't anymore and I don't romanticize them past "those cars still look really cool" because of the exteriors. The interiors are garbage by comparison. They don't even have usb ports!
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80's BMWs are the best ones, sorry.
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Applebees Appetizer posted:Being a kid of the 80's I remember people lusting after late 60's and early 70's muscle cars, like seeing a 69 Charger was the poo poo then even. A buddy of mine had a 340 Duster with a manual and we'd do donuts in parking lots, another one had a Cutlass with the 350 rocket, everyone wanted a Mopar or a GM coupe. My aunt had a 440 Challenger and it was a big deal then. Now it's crazy, I can't remember that last time I've seen any of those in the wild. Eh, I view it as complicated. Different strokes for different folks type thing. Did I lust over a Countach poster or a Testarossa poster? Probably. And a 959. Along with Farrah Fawcett.
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