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Yiggy posted:I bet Japan is one. Shinzo Abe has been such a lickspittle and at a few junctures been the guy Trump looked to for his token support on the world stage. Also a good motive, Trump could very easily tell Japan that he's not going to help protect them from North Korea unless they play ball. All the while he buddies up with 'rocket man' launching more and more longer range missiles right over Japan. edit: Japanese tax 
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I call BS. Linsdey Graham has no friends. Edit: Beaten, but it always bears repeating.
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:There were unbelievable facts in the Mueller report and it didn't even move the needle. I think it helps that this scenario is fairly simple and straightforward, with only a couple moving parts and a very clear timeline of what happened and when. Everything surrounding the meetings and communications during the campaign, and the obstruction afterwards, adds up to a pretty complicated web of stuff that's hard to explain succinctly. Here, it's simple, in the open, with both sides of the conversation admitting it happened, in language that's clear enough that anyone denying it was a quid pro quo sounds like a lunatic. It's much easier to explain, and most normal people can see that extortion for the purpose of getting a foreign country to do a hit job on a possible opposing candidate is bad without needing a whole lot of background.
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Zophar posted:There's just no way to credibly claim there's nothing there when the President literally does the crime in a clearly obvious way. But up until the full report came out, they were doing exactly that.
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Fraction Jackson posted:I think it helps that this scenario is fairly simple and straightforward, with only a couple moving parts and a very clear timeline of what happened and when. Everything surrounding the meetings and communications during the campaign, and the obstruction afterwards, adds up to a pretty complicated web of stuff that's hard to explain succinctly. also, the story dropped in the course of 24 hours instead of two years the fact that the crime can be summarized in a headline is extremely important though, yeah
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Sub Par posted:But up until the full report came out, they were doing exactly that. They weren't doing it credibly
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Fraction Jackson posted:I think it helps that this scenario is fairly simple and straightforward, with only a couple moving parts and a very clear timeline of what happened and when. Everything surrounding the meetings and communications during the campaign, and the obstruction afterwards, adds up to a pretty complicated web of stuff that's hard to explain succinctly. Plus I think the speed at which all of this came out helped. We first heard of a mysterious whistleblower, what, a week ago? Ten days?
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The silence from Republicans who’ve seen the report is deafening. I can’t be the only one to notice right?
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Fraction Jackson posted:I think it helps that this scenario is fairly simple and straightforward, with only a couple moving parts and a very clear timeline of what happened and when. Everything surrounding the meetings and communications during the campaign, and the obstruction afterwards, adds up to a pretty complicated web of stuff that's hard to explain succinctly.
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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:They're going to land on "Biden was actually doing a corruption though, Trump did the right thing" within 48 hours and it's probably going to stick. I don't think so, Tim
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Plus I think the speed at which all of this came out helped. We first heard of a mysterious whistleblower, what, a week ago? Ten days?
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Majorian posted:Biden's got a pretty long history of corruption. That said, there doesn't seem to be much of that from him in this particular case. I'm not a particular fan of Biden. Hell I thought he was a lovely pick for Obama's VP to begin with and should have been jettisoned in 2012 in favor of someone younger and I sure as hell don't want him to win the nomination as he's way too conservative not to mention that he's obviously sun setting and his brain is mush. But do you have anything to back up that allegation other than right wing hit pieces and wild conjecture?
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:The silence from Republicans who’ve seen the report is deafening. I can’t be the only one to notice right? Nope. It's very telling. But I guarantee you there's a bunch of frantic Republicans in some rooms on Capitol Hill right now trying to figure out what the hell to do and how to be on the same page and deflect to Hillary or something.
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Nope. It's very telling. But I guarantee you there's a bunch of frantic Republicans in some rooms on Capitol Hill right now trying to figure out what the hell to do and how to be on the same page and deflect to Hillary or something. Hopefully they cc Dems on the talking points email again.
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theflyingorc posted:I don't think so, Tim
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sexpig by night posted:they've been exclusively doing it on Fox because they know Fox's literal intended purpose is to convince republican voters impeachment is bad. It's why it was founded and it's finally getting to do it. It was founded during the impeachment of Clinton to convince republican voters impeachment was bad? Do you have more information on this?
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:The silence from Republicans who’ve seen the report is deafening. I can’t be the only one to notice right? Not only the elected officials, but even the Fox news mouth piece is beaten down they've had on Graham and Collins already and very specifically neither of them mentioned the whistleblower report to leave a plausible out
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:There were unbelievable facts in the Mueller report and it didn't even move the needle. The biggest problem with Mueller's report I think is that it only really gave Dems the options of: - move for impeachment on obstruction of justice, - deny the report's findings re: Trump actively and directly engaging in collusion and try again to pin collusion. Ultimately, impeachment is reliant on public opinion and I don't think either of the above would have resonated with people as much as what's ongoing with Ukraine and Trump literally, on record, shaking down another head of state using taxpayer funds for BUTHEREMAILS.
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Fox News was founded before Clinton Impeachment. I only know this because I specifically remember watching Fox News when they announced Princess Diana died.
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Nope. It's very telling. But I guarantee you there's a bunch of frantic Republicans in some rooms on Capitol Hill right now trying to figure out what the hell to do and how to be on the same page and deflect to Hillary or something. I’d also like to point out that anyone suggesting the election is being relitigated is ignoring the fact that: this was about trump thinking a non existent Ukrainian CEO of an American company might have dirt on Hillary Clinton’s emails
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Hmm, Leschenko. For context, he is the same person who published the Manafort/Yanukovich ledger. He also tends to be treated extremely well by Western journalists because he is an ex-journalist himself.
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Catalyst-proof posted:I’d also like to point out that anyone suggesting the election is being relitigated is ignoring the fact that: this was about trump thinking a non existent Ukrainian CEO of an American company might have dirt on Hillary Clinton’s emails Facts to chuds are like light to cockroaches: both make them scurry back into the dark holes that they crawled out of.
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They had about 2 years to muddy the waters on the Mueller Report. They've had almost no time to get ahead of this, especially since Trump is just whole sale admitting his crimes and giving out the evidence to everyone who wants to see this. Hard to muddy a pool of blood with the shark still tearing up bodies in it.
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Stereotype posted:Trump also has dementia and is going to get worse every single day. It's the durn Democrats, they want to obstruct our guns and legalize crime
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evilweasel posted:the first rule is actually you don't send all of your talking points to the other side Yes but like most things to do with the Trump presidency, it was an unwritten rule everyone just assumed everyone else knew to follow that they realized they’re going to have to spell it out in small words for the future.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:The silence from Republicans who’ve seen the report is deafening. I can’t be the only one to notice right? I’ve noticed that as well. Sasse was the only comment I saw and it was not helpful to Trump.
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Nope. It's very telling. But I guarantee you there's a bunch of frantic Republicans in some rooms on Capitol Hill right now trying to figure out what the hell to do and how to be on the same page and deflect to Hillary or something. “I’ve got it! Do you guys remember ‘Mad Libs’?!”
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Is this -- am I feeling hope? It's been so long.
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Facts to chuds are like light to cockroaches: both make them scurry back into the dark holes that they crawled out of. Meh, mostly they just ignore them and claim that no, actually it's dark. Facts are like organic "natural" insect repellent to cockroaches.
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Taerkar posted:Do you not? Why are you assuming that there is any? Im just not sure. I wouldnt put it past trump administration to just use this as a way to create dirt out of whole cloth
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Mahoning posted:“I’ve got it! Do you guys remember ‘Mad Libs’?!” "And it works, because the LIBS are MAD! Get it?? They'll be SO owned!!"
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NmareBfly posted:Is this -- am I feeling hope? It's been so long. Seize that feeling and hold it tight
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What is this feeling that I vaguely recall from eons ago? Is this... Happiness? Haha efb
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*sniff* I never thought I'd live long enough to see the Great Mattering. It's so beautiful.
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FizFashizzle posted:This is that other thing that was referenced Um holy poo poo He is really going to get impeached lmao
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