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fox news was founded in '96 but all the stuff leading up to it (the rise of conservative AM radio, takeover of the legal profession, etc) was birthed from nixon's resignation.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:this is not how i would have predicted the Mattering would happen but lol They got Capone on income tax evasion, so...
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Groovelord Neato posted:fox news was founded in '96 but all the stuff leading up to it (the rise of conservative AM radio, takeover of the legal profession, etc) was birthed from nixon's resignation. Throw Roger Ailes himself in there. (and then throw his body into a drainage ditch or someplace equally unpleasant, please)
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This isn't quite the Great Mattering yet, but it is the climb to the top of the rollercoaster. 
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Ham posted:I wonder how Q-Anons are reacting to all of this. Is this the last gasp of the deep state before the indictments finally make it out? NUH UH! Fake news! -fox news comment feed all day today and every day
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I don't even know what to do with myself poo poo is HAPPENING whaaaaaaat
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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:They're going to land on "Biden was actually doing a corruption though, Trump did the right thing" within 48 hours and it's probably going to stick. They're already trying it, but whether it sticks or not is a completely different thing. Unlike usual, it doesn't seem like they're able to sneak the spin through without pushback. People like Chuck Todd aren't buying it they way they usually do. Even FOX seems way off-balance. I don't think the pressure will ever get to where a Senate trial could ever result in conviction, but the fact that this is such an open-and-shut case seems to be allowing a lot of damage to be done before they can get their defense straight, and I don't think anyone other than the true believers really want to defend Trump on this one. They have to, but they'd rather not. And I think that has an effect as well.
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It’s like that scene in the Matrix, only instead of turning into Agent Smith, they all turn into John McCain.
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Is there anything that's stopping McConnell from squashing impeachment hearings?
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Willo567 posted:Is there anything that's stopping McConnell from squashing impeachment hearings? Other than it sinking any hope republicans have in 2020, no.
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Willo567 posted:Is there anything that's stopping McConnell from squashing impeachment hearings? Shame 
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Willo567 posted:Is there anything that's stopping McConnell from squashing impeachment hearings? The fact that they're in the House and not the Senate?
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Fraction Jackson posted:They're already trying it, but whether it sticks or not is a completely different thing. Unlike usual, it doesn't seem like they're able to sneak the spin through without pushback. People like Chuck Todd aren't buying it they way they usually do. Even FOX seems way off-balance. I want o say this has happened before, and they usually stabilize once the talking points are issued. But we know they already issued the talking points this time and they’re not working. This whole day is just wild.
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Willo567 posted:Is there anything that's stopping McConnell from squashing impeachment hearings? He's senate, the investigation is taking place in the house.
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Willo567 posted:Is there anything that's stopping McConnell from squashing impeachment hearings? His total lack of authority in the House
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My mom saved the newspaper front page from when Nixon got impeached. I hope I get the chance to save one for Donald fuckin' Trump.
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Willo567 posted:Is there anything that's stopping McConnell from squashing impeachment hearings? The senate has nothing to do with impeachment. He could potentially prevent the senate from holding the trial, after the impeachment is over, but that would involve an actual up-or-down vote on overturning the current rules on how the senate conducts impeachment trials, rather than just quietly not scheduling anything
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Arist posted:His total lack of authority in the House They probably mean if he's impeached and its moves on to trial.
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There are lots of rules that sternly suggest that the Senate must perform the hearings; even that they must hear the full evidence, without interruption, under penalty of arrest. So in other words, the rulebook says a dog can't play basketball.
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cheetah7071 posted:The senate has nothing to do with impeachment. He could potentially prevent the senate from holding the trial, after the impeachment is over, but that would involve an actual up-or-down vote on overturning the current rules on how the senate conducts impeachment trials, rather than just quietly not scheduling anything I thought that was provisioned in the Constitution, not Senate rules? e. Guess I'm wrong.
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Pollyanna posted:This isn't quite the Great Mattering yet, but it is the climb to the top of the rollercoaster. "It's not the end of the world, but you can see it from here"
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Uncleanly Cleric posted:I thought that was provisioned in the Constitution, not Senate rules? This is what the constitution has to say on the matter: quote:The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. so theoretically the senate could just choose not the exercise that power. That is against current senate rules but nothing more than that, I think
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Jesus Christ. I really hate to burst the bubble here but if you think anything is going to happen with this I have magic beans to sell you. Impeachment will never come to a vote in the house.
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Still stunned at how differently this day could have gone if Trump didn't give out that transcript without counsel. Wild to think that he's gone through so much trouble to remove oversight on the Executive and call his own shots and the first thing he does with that freedom is fall into a hole.
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CelestialScribe posted:Jesus Christ. I really hate to burst the bubble Nah, you enjoy it.
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cheetah7071 posted:The senate has nothing to do with impeachment. They hold the trial after the house votes to impeach with the chief justice of the SC presiding. Removal of office requires 2/3s of the senate. The house impeachs, but without the senate enforcing removal it does nothing (directly, as it were, it still Matters).
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Spun Dog posted:Nah, you enjoy it. Also he knows nothing about our system of government, ignore.
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cr0y posted:Is this squid go pro? No this is 
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Dick Trauma posted:My mom saved the newspaper front page from when Nixon got impeached. I hope I get the chance to save one for Donald fuckin' Trump. I think I still have that and the Agnew one somewhere. NYT.
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Mendrian posted:There are lots of rules that sternly suggest that the Senate must perform the hearings; even that they must hear the full evidence, without interruption, under penalty of arrest. maybe I'm missing the joke but no rules like you describe exist and even if they did, a majority could throw them out in a heartbeat 1) a procedure that at least looks like a trial if you squint 2) with the chief justice at least sitting in the chair in the middle of things 3) and a vote
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Zophar posted:Still stunned at how differently this day could have gone if Trump didn't give out that transcript without counsel. Wild to think that he's gone through so much trouble to remove oversight on the Executive and call his own shots and the first thing he does with that freedom is fall into a hole. His counsel is Rudy, so who’s to say he didn’t consult him.
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Because Barr works for Trump. Barr's been pretty clear about that from the start through his actions with the DOJ.
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CelestialScribe posted:Jesus Christ. I really hate to burst the bubble here but if you think anything is going to happen with this I have magic beans to sell you. I can see a strong argument for Trump not getting removed, but why would you be so certain as to impeachment? Pelosi has put all the eggs in this basket.
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CelestialScribe posted:Jesus Christ. I really hate to burst the bubble here but if you think anything is going to happen with this I have magic beans to sell you. 
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Pollyanna posted:This isn't quite the Great Mattering yet, but it is the climb to the top of the rollercoaster. I want to get off Mr. Trump's Wild Ride
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I just remembered that Trump wields the pardon. It could get Barr, and others, off the hook here.
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CommieGIR posted:Because Barr works for Trump. Barr's been pretty clear about that from the start through his actions with the DOJ. Yeah I know.
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Ham posted:I can see a strong argument for Trump not getting removed, but why would you be so certain as to impeachment? Pelosi has put all the eggs in this basket. celestialscribe has a long history of being hilariously wrong about elections in this thread, so i assume this is no different
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