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who knew starting a new USPOL thread would cause all this
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Calling it now there's a video/evidence of trump committing literal, hangable treason I literally do not know what else would have almost every republican moc who has seen the reports completely walk back their initial statements of support for trump
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Sep 26, 2019 04:11
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Chris Stewart is a mormon former military decorum nerd who while he will never meaningfully go against the president so long as he gets his deregulation and FedSoc judges, probably loathes him personally. For whatever that's worth (which may be nothing).
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Sep 26, 2019 04:12
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:Oh I know he's a Republican and he'll never vote to impeach. Doesn't make him any less of a coward. oh i agree he is. i just meant he was HOUSE rep. the house GOP is always more crazy than the senate(different ways) i could see defections in the senate, not the house.
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Sep 26, 2019 04:12
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Really wondering what the GOP counter to this will be. Continue to go after Biden?
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Sep 26, 2019 04:12
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The Glumslinger posted:Seriously, if this poo poo pans out "..., Manafort exhorted the White House to press Ukrainian officials to investigate and discredit individuals, both in the US and in Ukraine, who he believed had published damning information about his political consulting work in the Ukrain..." *looks at Leschenko trying to push in the knife with leaks from Ukrainian end of explicit pressure* Hmm. Hope the journalist unity thing will come to play here...
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Sep 26, 2019 04:13
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SpaceCadetBob posted:Its going to leak the moment we go to bed so you better keep f5ing just in case. technically that means we should all take the bullet and go to sleep RIGHT NOW, for the marginal betterment of the world
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Sep 26, 2019 04:13
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I'm wondering if Stewart gave bad info now, of other reps can't find it
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Sep 26, 2019 04:13
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Rigel posted:lol, how can it get less structured? Reiterating: How will we know
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Sep 26, 2019 04:14
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Kill Bristol posted:Chris Stewart is a mormon former military decorum nerd who while he will never meaningfully go against the president so long as he gets his deregulation and FedSoc judges, probably loathes him personally. For whatever that's worth (which may be nothing). He also seems to think the whistle blower complaint is not impressive or damaging enough to impeach.
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Sep 26, 2019 04:15
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Sep 26, 2019 04:15
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The timing of this couldn’t be more perfect. The one week a year where Trump is constantly engaged face to face with foreign leaders from around the world, and he has to deal with people who he knows were talking behind his back, and will resume talking behind his back when he leaves the room about this embarrassing and potentially administration ending scandal. For a man who cares so much about keeping up appearances and looking strong, he is having the worst week of his presidency unfold while playing host to the world’s leaders. As a guy who has always wanted to fit in among high society and finally forced his way into the club, there are probably few things Trump hates more than being shamed in front of the kinds of people he so desperately wanted to impress.
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Sep 26, 2019 04:15
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nine-gear crow posted:Brian Williams, currently five minutes away from airtime: I'm Bearded Riker and Reading Rainbow's LeVar Burton, endlessly laughing in the background.
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Sep 26, 2019 04:15
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PainterofCrap posted:How will we know One if by land, two if by sea?
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Sep 26, 2019 04:15
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Rigel posted:lol, how can it get less structured? "...may so enrage the president...."
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Sep 26, 2019 04:16
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Herstory Begins Now posted:
This did not technically happen. Republicans have refrained from commenting on the report except three senators quoted saying what amounts to "deeply troubling". Silence from most republicans does speak volumes.
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Sep 26, 2019 04:16
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:I'm Bearded Riker and Reading Rainbow's LeVar Burton, endlessly laughing in the background. HEY! I'm bearded Riker and you can be La Forge.
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Sep 26, 2019 04:17
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Rigel posted:lol, how can it get less structured? Also this was always one of the real prizes of the house impeaching, and based on this press conference today I'd say it's going to pay off quite well.
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Sep 26, 2019 04:19
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Ham posted:Silence from most republicans does speak volumes. tomorrow morning will be more interesting. If they have their talking points in order and continue to defend Trump, that means after digesting what they saw behind closed doors, they think they can ride this one out. If they continue to say nothing aside from the usual crazyass bootlickers, then its really bad.
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Sep 26, 2019 04:19
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:Reminder that anyone who has a grudge against Trump is going to see this as the opportunity to strike. Politics and sausage can happen fast when someone decides it's time to make them.
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Sep 26, 2019 04:19
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Turns out the whistleblower was someone named Benjamin Ghazi.
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Sep 26, 2019 04:20
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CNN is reporting a lawmaker stating the complaint indicates multiple Trump aides were involved in pressuring Zelensky. The complaint is not limited to conduct regarding the storage of call transcripts or the call itself.
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Sep 26, 2019 04:21
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Ham posted:This did not technically happen. Republicans have refrained from commenting on the report except three senators quoted saying what amounts to "deeply troubling". Consider the difference between how gop acted after getting to see the mueller report vs after the whistleblower report
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Sep 26, 2019 04:21
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Ham posted:This did not technically happen. Republicans have refrained from commenting on the report except three senators quoted saying what amounts to "deeply troubling". yeah. i think they are worried. graham and some of the stupider ones are defending in vague ways but the rest are quiet or quietly mad.
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Sep 26, 2019 04:22
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the only way this could have gone better is if at a conference someone shouted "THIS IDIOT'S loving A PUMPKIN" and the podium fell down to reveal trump furiously porking a gourd
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Sep 26, 2019 04:23
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:I'm Bearded Riker and Reading Rainbow's LeVar Burton, endlessly laughing in the background. Also I was wrong, BriWi has the night off tonight. That was Steve Kornacki getting ready for air tonight 
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Sep 26, 2019 04:24
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also trump is 100% gonna leak the whistleblower's name and any dirt he can find by the weekend.
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Sep 26, 2019 04:24
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FizFashizzle posted:Imagine if he just stroked out Send this over to the schadenfreude thread. I really don’t want to get my hopes up, but perhaps this is the mattering I keep hearing about.
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Sep 26, 2019 04:24
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https://twitter.com/brianschatz/status/1177059622106095616?s=21
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Sep 26, 2019 04:24
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sexpig by night posted:the only way this could have gone better is if at a conference someone shouted "THIS IDIOT'S loving A PUMPKIN" and the podium fell down to reveal trump furiously porking a gourd tbh I bet they would have taken pumpkin fuckin over this
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Sep 26, 2019 04:24
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Dapper_Swindler posted:yeah. i think they are worried. graham and some of the stupider ones are defending in vague ways but the rest are quiet or quietly mad. Worried might be an understatement.
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Sep 26, 2019 04:25
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Consider the difference between how gop acted after getting to see the mueller report vs after the whistleblower report I agree - just stating they didn't technically walk back support. Rigel posted:tomorrow morning will be more interesting. If they have their talking points in order and continue to defend Trump, that means after digesting what they saw behind closed doors, they think they can ride this one out. If they continue to say nothing aside from the usual crazyass bootlickers, then its really bad. Agreed, but in the very least, this has them shook.
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Sep 26, 2019 04:25
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Consider the difference between how gop acted after getting to see the mueller report vs after the whistleblower report Yeah Republicans kept tripping over themselves to leak out how the Mueller Report was a whole load of nothing and that the President was vindicated.
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Sep 26, 2019 04:25
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sexpig by night posted:also trump is 100% gonna leak the whistleblower's name and any dirt he can find by the weekend. gently caress me if it really does turn out to be John Bolton 
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Sep 26, 2019 04:25
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nine-gear crow posted:gently caress me if it really does turn out to be John Bolton that's my 'maximum chaos world' bet my more reasonable one is 'just some rando dingus who heard about this and had the free time to compile stories and poo poo to make a case'
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Sep 26, 2019 04:26
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https://twitter.com/ShimonPro/status/1177061878805270530
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Sep 26, 2019 04:27
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Ho! I am having midnight ramblings and want the smart folk to tell me if I'm saying things that make sense. I think the situation is unfolding in a way which backs up one specific reading: Barr was willing to go to extraordinary and probably illegal lengths to attempt to block this whistleblower report from legally mandatory issue to the House committees – intervening directly and in ways that would create dramatic new degrees of evidence of his wrongdoing and complicity in obstructing justice. He was likely not even sure that it was going to work, but he still evidently felt compelled to try. It suggests that he knew that the report contained information that could sink the presidency. It also suggests it contains evidence of his own criminal involvement, which would come out as part of the whistleblower investigation, and meant that he essentially had nothing to lose. His only remaining option was apparently a hail mary attempt to assert that the whistleblower report fell entirely and solely under DoJ discretion and was at his liberty to release or contain. It was a very risky move, and not exactly one that seemed to have much capacity to survive challenge by the House IC (nor a flurry of continued whistleblower activity to alert everyone as to what happened). The desperation contained within this act is a substantive indicator to what this loving report might really be.
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Sep 26, 2019 04:27
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So we have the declassified complaint and the DNI testimony to look forward to tomorrow morning?
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Sep 26, 2019 04:28
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sexpig by night posted:also trump is 100% gonna leak the whistleblower's name and any dirt he can find by the weekend. I'm not saying no one will leak the name to him, but the way the process works, he shouldn't know who it is. Thats kind of the point. But yeah, if he somehow finds out who it is, he will begin rage-tweeting.
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Kavros posted:Ho! I am having midnight ramblings and want the smart folk to tell me if I'm saying things that make sense. I think the situation is unfolding in a way which backs up one specific reading: Sounds very plausible. I hope Santa brings me something nice in the morning.
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