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I love swole Commissioner Gordon and Hugo Strange
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Sep 27, 2019 02:29
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RareAcumen posted:I love swole Commissioner Gordongantuan and Huge-o Strangle
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Sep 27, 2019 02:30
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RareAcumen posted:I love swole Commissioner Gordon and Hugo Strange Hugo Strange was in City, where there was a lot less of that 'musclebound default', so that was definitely deliberate. He's also super driven to beat Batman, and there's no way you're doing that without getting swole as hell.
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Sep 27, 2019 02:34
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Strange's design is just so good in general. He's a lot less grimy than most of the cast and you mostly see his face for his scenes which does really work. Like it manages to make him both intimidating and sell you (in a comic book way) how he could trick his way into being warden.
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Sep 27, 2019 02:41
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Cleretic posted:Hugo Strange was in City, where there was a lot less of that 'musclebound default', so that was definitely deliberate. He's also super driven to beat Batman, and there's no way you're doing that without getting swole as hell. I think in some versions of the character he straight up goes all-in on trying to directly copy Batman to understand him better/replace him/whatever. I just wish Strange had a bigger role in the game than he actually does. 
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Sep 27, 2019 02:57
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I think the voice actor made Strange, he sounds like Christopher Lee, and sells talking calmly and gravely about his stupid insane comic book villain plan.
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Sep 27, 2019 09:24
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Cleretic posted:Hugo Strange was in City, where there was a lot less of that 'musclebound default', so that was definitely deliberate. He's also super driven to beat Batman, and there's no way you're doing that without getting swole as hell. Oh I know, I'm just including him because he's hilariously buff and does absolutely nothing in the game, just like Gordon.
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Sep 27, 2019 10:47
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That's also something that's oddly endearing about Gears 5. Early on you meet Baird, who throughout the series has morphed from a slightly techy soldier to basically head scientist of the whole government. So at this point he's basically the stereotypical balding scientist in a lab coat trading insults with the AI he made, except he's also still a huge slab of beef because Gears gonna Gears. 
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Sep 27, 2019 10:51
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Not at all true. I think someone argued this with me before in this thread and yeah what you said. People just started conflating UE3 with meat slabs and that sharp lighting. But I love the idea of a game designer trying their darndest to make a cute videogame but all that comes out is just buff loving jigglipuff.
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Sep 27, 2019 11:17
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Mokinokaro posted:Strange's design is just so good in general. He's a lot less grimy than most of the cast and you mostly see his face for his scenes which does really work. No, Hugo Strange's plan is dumb as hell and wouldn't work in a city patrolled by an actual superhero (instead of a billionaire furry). Not to mention the eminent domain issues of cordoning off an entire area of city and kicking out all residents and businesses to establish your superprison. Imagine Arkham City in Metropolis. Two seconds after its opening, Superman has liberated all the prisoners, disarmed the TYGER guards, and put Hugo in a headlock giving him noogies.
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Sep 27, 2019 12:54
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Arkham City's plot was so loving stupid, and I'm still annoyed that I played all the way through to get that explanation as to how Strange had done all this.
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Sep 27, 2019 13:13
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In Untitled Goose Game you transition through one area by going through a person's house. The camera follows you from the outside as you honk, crash and smash through things then get kicked out the door. If you are carrying something with you, they throw it out behind you.
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Sep 27, 2019 13:41
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bony tony posted:No, Hugo Strange's plan is dumb as hell and wouldn't work in a city patrolled by an actual superhero (instead of a billionaire furry). Not to mention the eminent domain issues of cordoning off an entire area of city and kicking out all residents and businesses to establish your superprison.
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Sep 27, 2019 13:43
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There's a Batman and Superman that can believably exist in the same universe. Arkham Batman is not one of them.
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Sep 27, 2019 13:53
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:isn't there a scene where someone mentions that Superman offered to help and Batman told him to gently caress off because Batmans an idiot? Honestly, that squares, because I feel like one of the worst things about being in the Justice League would be Superman. Anything even remotely big comes up in your area and you've inevitably got Superman asking if he should help out, and you don't actually want to be a jerk to him but you really want to tell him that you can loving handle this, CLARK, go back to being all-powerful somewhere else and let me deal with my side of things! I feel like the only one who's probably safest from this is The Flash, just because he can deal with a lot of those problems faster than it would take for Superman to find out about them. I can only imagine Green Arrow gets the worst of it, at least Superman generally respects that Batman's a smart guy.
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Sep 27, 2019 13:57
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Sunswipe posted:Arkham City's plot was so loving stupid, and I'm still annoyed that I played all the way through to get that explanation as to how Strange had done all this. And on top of that it retroactively ruined the spooky Spirit of Arkham stuff from the first game.
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Sep 27, 2019 14:42
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TheMostFrench posted:In Untitled Goose Game you transition through one area by going through a person's house. The camera follows you from the outside as you honk, crash and smash through things then get kicked out the door. If you are carrying something with you, they throw it out behind you. That ribbon was rightfully mine and damned if I'm letting it just come off on a bush  .I took the time on the grand adventure back with the Bell to get the lady to stick the ribbon back on so I could continue on in style  .
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Sep 27, 2019 14:56
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Arkham City boasts the biggest gulf in quality between story and gameplay. Thankfully the gameplay is 99% of the experience. It's not something that can be easily replicated nor improved by adding a tank to the formula.
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Sep 27, 2019 16:59
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Arkham City boasts the biggest gulf in quality between story and gameplay. Thankfully the gameplay is 99% of the experience. It's not something that can be easily replicated nor improved by adding a tank to the formula. Hot Take: The Tank was alright, I liked the riddler challenges with it. The combat was poor though, although the optional boss with it was satisfying as I was nearly dead, I followed him into a tunnel and finished him off by firing EVERY ROCKET I HAD UP HIS TAILPIPE! It was a fond moment.
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Sep 27, 2019 17:23
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I’m sure I’ve posted this before but the Batmobile is really well made, yet it has an absurdly high learning curve before you start having fun with it. The driving model is extremely detailed and versatile and responsive. After doing a ton of the bonus challenges way too many times, driving that thing is second nature to me, and it feels super bad rear end. Problem is, even if I’ve learned to like it, that kind of difficulty curve belongs nowhere near the Arkham series, where the whole premise is you’re the god drat Batman. He’s super bad rear end to begin with, that should be part of the design!
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Sep 27, 2019 17:33
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It would have been fine if it stayed as a car, there was no reason to make it a clunky third person shooter too.
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Sep 27, 2019 17:35
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OOh, the basement level in Hot Lava puts things together in an interesting way, although the final chase level "Chase the Meaning" is hard. The one before it has an interesting implication though, as at one point you are running through air vents and you actually hear in the background what sounds like the main characters parent's arguing. Seems him and his sister's game of The Floor is Lava is a metaphor for the rocky ground they are treading on. You can't make out any words, but the tone is there. In no other level do you hear such a thing.
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Sep 27, 2019 18:31
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:isn't there a scene where someone mentions that Superman offered to help and Batman told him to gently caress off because Batmans an idiot? That is more or less exactly what happened in No Man's Land which was a big inspiration for Arkham City: 
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Sep 27, 2019 18:43
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Neddy Seagoon posted:That ribbon was rightfully mine and damned if I'm letting it just come off on a bush That was the best part of the game because you think "oh I'm an rear end in a top hat goose this is funny" "haha these people have no goose signs" and then you find out that this day of assholery isn't anything special and it's just like a regular rear end Tuesday
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Sep 27, 2019 18:47
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Made a video of one of the last levels in Hot Lava as I like how the design has evolved: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJgzo4Qy2eI
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Sep 27, 2019 19:10
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Cleretic posted:Honestly, that squares, because I feel like one of the worst things about being in the Justice League would be Superman. Anything even remotely big comes up in your area and you've inevitably got Superman asking if he should help out, and you don't actually want to be a jerk to him but you really want to tell him that you can loving handle this, CLARK, go back to being all-powerful somewhere else and let me deal with my side of things! Nah it'd be great, you don't have to take your superheroing seriously, you can go all in on a stupid gimmick and have supes bail you out if using your dumb medieval weapon somehow fails.
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Sep 27, 2019 19:20
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Assassin's Creed 2: There is no permanent penalty for being seen, if you escape or kill the nearby guards you can keep going.
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Sep 27, 2019 21:10
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Sadly the next seven games would add arbitrary restrictions to compensate the rather shallow gameplay. Also, you haven't mentioned the boat level. Everyone remembers the boat level. Everyone hated it.
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Sep 27, 2019 21:49
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Also, you haven't mentioned the boat level. Everyone remembers the boat level. Everyone hated it. In the original release it was just (a part of) lazy dlc, but the later versions made it unskippable. 
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Sep 27, 2019 22:17
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Sadly the next seven games would add arbitrary restrictions to compensate the rather shallow gameplay. I don't actually remember the boat level but I still hate because there's absolutely no way something called "The Boat Level" could be good.
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Sep 27, 2019 22:25
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RE4 had a pretty sweet boat section. Turtles in Time had a level set on giant pirate boats, with cannons, pirate hats, swords, guys swinging on ropes, explosions, all the things you'd want in a pirate level.
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Sep 28, 2019 03:49
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The Moon Monster posted:I don't actually remember the boat level but I still hate because there's absolutely no way something called "The Boat Level" could be good. Metal Gear Solid 2 says otherwise .Len posted:That was the best part of the game because you think "oh I'm an rear end in a top hat goose this is funny" "haha these people have no goose signs" and then you find out that this day of assholery isn't anything special and it's just like a regular rear end Tuesday I even went left at the start and was surprised by this odd pile of bells in a pit... and completely forgot about them right up until I came waddling back with my new(est) trophy .
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Sep 28, 2019 10:58
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Cleretic posted:Honestly, that squares, because I feel like one of the worst things about being in the Justice League would be Superman. Anything even remotely big comes up in your area and you've inevitably got Superman asking if he should help out, and you don't actually want to be a jerk to him but you really want to tell him that you can loving handle this, CLARK, go back to being all-powerful somewhere else and let me deal with my side of things!
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Sep 28, 2019 12:32
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Tiggum posted:Not letting Superman help is dumb and irresponsible and just another piece of evidence that super heroes are actually terrible people. If people are in danger and you know someone who could get them out of danger instantly, you'd have to be a real psychopath (or the dumbest person alive) to not give them a call. Having Superman solve everything every time means villains and the like are only afraid of Superman. If Superman ever goes away, or dies, again, things get much worse because everyone thinks it's free reign to do what they please. Gotta remind the world there are other heroes lurking about to keep things in balance too, and they can generally solve most situations just as well.
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Sep 28, 2019 12:37
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Having Superman solve everything every time means villains and the like are only afraid of Superman. If Superman ever goes away, or dies, again, things get much worse because everyone thinks it's free reign to do what they please. Gotta remind the world there are other heroes lurking about to keep things in balance too, and they can generally solve most situations just as well. Superman can't be everywhere at once. He's not going to be available all the time. But if he's offering to help then you'd be insane to turn him down.
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Sep 28, 2019 12:44
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Tiggum posted:a real psychopath (or the dumbest person alive) Reported for doxxing Bruce Wayne
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Sep 28, 2019 12:46
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Tiggum posted:you'd have to be a real psychopath (or the dumbest person alive)  (sorry, I can only ever find this in demotivational format)
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Sep 28, 2019 14:16
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Pretty much everything about the whole superhero concept falls apart when you spend a minute applying real world logic to it. Makes it annoying when they try to use superpowers/superheroes/the plight thereof as a metaphor for some real world thing.
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Sep 28, 2019 15:29
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It's greek pantheon all over again but even stupider because Zeus grew up on a farm in Kentucky.
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Sep 28, 2019 15:37
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I honestly like how the Arrowverse handles that power discrepancy between friendlies, as an aside. You've got the Green Arrow and his crew, The Flash and his crew, and a ship of outright goddamn time travelers, and they're very happy to collaborate, but it's established pretty early that even for The Flash it's not a totally effortless trip, and for the most part they just get in each other's way when dealing with each other's problems so it's best to just keep distance unless poo poo really hits the fan. I can see that being a pretty fair reason to tell Superman to stay away during the Arkham City situation. Batman knows the situation and major players better and has a better toolkit for dealing with that stuff, so Superman should be at best kept in reserve. Plus on a metatextual level we've had several cases where we see that Superman's just not equipped to handle The Joker (both the Kingdom Come miniseries and Injustice use Superman failing to stop The Joker as their initial inciting incident), so, might be best not to introduce the two.
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Sep 28, 2019 16:11
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