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Mooseontheloose posted:Right and? There are tons of federal laws they violated that are easier to convict on. We've been generally working on the presumption that any post-Trump charges will come from state prosecutors in NY.
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Failed Imagineer posted:Basically Trump's recollection of any of his prior conversations is a little something like Huh, Garrison was pretty restrained with his labels this week.
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1177579380819845120 WHISTLEBLOWER ISNT A WHISTLEBLOWER ARGLEBARGLE Edit: ooof full blown narc paranoia is here and ho boi is it a doozy
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Holy poo poo they did it https://twitter.com/fawfulfan/status/1177585771710164992?s=20
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Beastie posted:I love that trump only knows about 3 adjectives. "Perfect conversation" makes no loving sense. It does when he also says it was "nice" and "no pressure". He never once raised his voice when discussing the crimes
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1177575947358412800?s=19 You know, reading from the transcript that the White House released.
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TulliusCicero posted:Nancy's only real quality is her banter A game when she wants to Any of us could do that without so much as a single brain cell firing. I know she's old and old people are incompetent but giving an old incompetent lady credit for doing something that anybody, even those who suffer from conditions that make human communication difficult, can do effortlessly isn't good.
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luxury handset posted:who outside of the trump campaign wants trump as president for another term? fox was making hay out of trump as a ratings generator to oppose the hated hillary clinton. republicans were similarly expecting trump to lose and holding him up as a spoiler when he improbably won the primary. the trump presidency has been a horror show, they don't even have the excuse of "at least he's good for business" because he's constantly pointing a loaded pistol at the economy. the republicans will put up a token show of support for their boy because it's bad form to just walk away from an election entirely but how much enthusiasm can there really be for president wet brains after everything that happened between 2017 and 2020? Trump is rabidly popular with his base of stupid white people, which apparently comprise at least 35% of the voting/mypillow-purchasing population. That's a lot of sweet boomer cash to tempt anyone into brushing aside his inanity. Also judges (which would be true regardless of which pile of wasps in a suit with an R next to their name occupied the WH but whatever). Without Trump, the R's stand no chance of getting the presidency in 2020. They have hitched their wagons to his diaperd rear end and and need him to continue to be relevant. e: typo ewiley fucked around with this message at 15:15 on Sep 27, 2019 |
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1177575947358412800?s=19 https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1177576649233195008 This is my fav bit posted directly after that
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friendbot2000 posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1177579380819845120 i actually caught a bit of fox news this morning going into our break room and they had a guy on whining about how the whistleblower is some partisan with "political animus" towards trump.
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Sep 27, 2019 15:11
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Rigel posted:We've been generally working on the presumption that any post-Trump charges will come from state prosecutors in NY. I get that but I still thinking getting federal pardons would be pretty bad.
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At least 40% of Trump's anger is coming from the fact that he sincerely believed the memo (where he flat-out admitted to an impeachable offense in a very clear way) would be a masterstroke that would deflate the whole thing. He was focused on the pleasantries between him and the Ukraine president, thinking it would make him look kind, smart, and presidential. He can't admit to himself that he idiotically glossed over something critically devastating to himself, and that translates to confusion, sheer bewilderment and white-hot rage that he isn't being praised for being a good smart diplomatic boy.
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Holy poo poo they did it
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Made up complaint that was corroborated by the transcript they released. Hell of a guess by the not a whistleblower
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friendbot2000 posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1177579380819845120 Second hand information WHICH IS ALL TRUE BASED ON WHAT YOU VOLENTEERED!
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Mooseontheloose posted:I get that but I still thinking getting federal pardons would be pretty bad. not really. A prosecution by a Federal attorney appointed by a president Warren would be politically difficult at best, and likely untenable. The New York prosecutors will be more likely to give no fucks. It is not reasonable to hope for Federal trials of Trump and his family post-presidency even if we hypothetically presumed self-serving pardons were thrown out by SCOTUS.
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Holy poo poo they did it Good move, keep this in the news and in front of everyone. The more televised house committee investigations the better!
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Oh. They are trying to either force the Whistleblower-s name out or muddy the waters as to how trustworthy they are. That-s depressingly gross.
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ImpAtom posted:Oh. They are trying to either force the Whistleblower-s name out or muddy the waters as to how trustworthy they are. That-s depressingly gross. i wasn;t paying close attention but it sounded like the talking head actually named someone.
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Rigel posted:not really. A prosecution by a Federal attorney appointed by a president Warren would be politically difficult at best, and likely untenable. The New York prosecutors will be more likely to give no fucks. It is not reasonable to hope for Federal trials of Trump and his family post-presidency even if we hypothetically presumed self-serving pardons were thrown out by SCOTUS. NY county (including NYC burrough) DAs are elected, so..
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ImpAtom posted:Oh. They are trying to either force the Whistleblower-s name out or muddy the waters as to how trustworthy they are. That-s depressingly gross. They are doing the same thing they did during the Russia investigation. Like line for line the same exact thing.
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ImpAtom posted:Oh. They are trying to either force the Whistleblower-s name out or muddy the waters as to how trustworthy they are. That-s depressingly gross. Pretty typical Republican behavior. GW outed one of our spies.
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OddObserver posted:NY county (including NYC burrough) DAs are elected, so.. Their demographics are massively different from the US. A DA in that county could run on "vote for me, and the Trump trial starts within the year!"
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lol in continuing 'no one but nobodies and trump die hards wants to touch this' news, Fox just teased their big 'both sides weigh in' for this with, for the dems, Eric Swalwell, a representative on the intel committee and former presidential candidate who sucks rear end but is at least pretty drat relevant...and Laura Trump, from the Trump campaign. So, ya know, doin great.
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hidden_msg posted:Full Disclosure: I have no idea who this guy is I just know he gets posted in here a lot. Michael Tracey is a huge disingenuous piece of poo poo who once claimed Maxine Waters assaulted him because he asked her a completely stupid question once, she ignored him, then brushed past him when she walked away. He is garbage and his opinions are, universally, garbage.
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Rigel posted:Their demographics are massively different from the US. A DA in that county could run on "vote for me, and the Trump trial starts within the year!" Yeah, Trump is super turbo hated there, running on a gently caress TRUMP IN COURT FOREVER platform would get you infinite votes I'd imagine.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:loving We're gonna need a bigger Schadenfreude thread soon. PainterofCrap fucked around with this message at 15:24 on Sep 27, 2019 |
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sexpig by night posted:lol in continuing 'no one but nobodies and trump die hards wants to touch this' news, Fox just teased their big 'both sides weigh in' for this with, for the dems, Eric Swalwell, a representative on the intel committee and former presidential candidate who sucks rear end but is at least pretty drat relevant...and Laura Trump, from the Trump campaign. Just riding out this storm!  It is absolutely hilarious how much the GOP is loving maintaining radio silence on this
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Was there ever confirmation that the whistleblower or their attorneys would be meeting with house intel/some other committee today? I thought there was a push for it for today. Welp that was fast https://twitter.com/ella_nilsen/status/1177588865600753670
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Do you think Joseph Maguire is going to get hit with an obstruction charge of some sort for how he handled the whistle blower complaint?
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friendbot2000 posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1177579380819845120 "IF HE'S A WHISTLEBLOWER, WHERE DID HE GET THE WHISTLE?!?!?! CHECKMATE LIBS!!!!!"
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A fair point https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1177586341619609600?s=19
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i am harry posted:Pretty typical Republican behavior. GW outed one of our spies. It's projection all the way down with the Republican party. Don't think the irony of storing political information on a server is lost in the irony department.
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The entire GOP is going to act like paraphrasing does not exist and it owns
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TulliusCicero posted:Just riding out this storm! It really feels like they’re hanging him out to dry. They probably want him to stroke out so they don’t have to actually reckon with removal and can just memory-hole the whole thing.
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Jealous Cow posted:It really feels like they’re hanging him out to dry. They probably want him to stroke out so they don’t have to actually reckon with removal and can just memory-hole the whole thing. They're waiting on poll numbers
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TulliusCicero posted:Just riding out this storm! Dude literally wrote and released a confession to a crime, and not some hyper technical financial thing or an arguably "gotcha" lied to the Feds type of thing where people would roll their eyes. He wrote something from out of a script for a mob boss in a way anyone who watches Netflix could grock, it exploded in a spectacular way nothing else has in the last 3 years, and most importantly they have NO polls. They are waiting for next week. If the polls inexplicably show the American people yawning and not moving on the impeachment question then they'll relax and fall in line. If the polls move sharply toward a strong majority for impeachment, they still won't remove him but they'll continue to quiver in silence hoping it all blows over after a year by the next election.
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Jealous Cow posted:It really feels like they’re hanging him out to dry. They probably want him to stroke out so they don’t have to actually reckon with removal and can just memory-hole the whole thing. I've got a bad feeling that they're going to regroup over the weekend and jump into a more coordinated defense in time for the Monday news cycle, but I'm not saying it'll be effective.
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ManBoyChef posted:Do you think Joseph Maguire is going to get hit with an obstruction charge of some sort for how he handled the whistle blower complaint? I doubt it. His appearance was very clearly 'career bureaucrat trying their best to be technically bureaucratic' and not 'malicious partisan rear end in a top hat' a la lewandowski's hearing last week. They may haul him back in, in a private session, to try to get more out of him though. And will almost likely get more under oath statements out of him for the official impeachment package.
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