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Was this ultra secure Area 51 security filing system even known to the public before this whole thing?
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Was this ultra secure Area 51 security filing system even known to the public before this whole thing? Classified networks are nothing new in the fed, it's just the abuse of it that's really impressive and novel
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Sep 28, 2019 01:47
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Charliegrs posted:So if she gets away with it there's going to be a riot in Dallas right? Yes.
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Sep 28, 2019 01:47
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FizFashizzle posted:he's currently in italy on an unannounced trip for some reason and just can't be reached darndest thing Bolton wasn't in the WH back then.
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Sep 28, 2019 01:48
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Was this ultra secure Area 51 security filing system even known to the public before this whole thing? it was probably assumed and its nothing new for national governments.
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Sep 28, 2019 01:48
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Sep 28, 2019 01:48
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Can't wait for Trump to suggest that instead of looking for his call transcripts, which were all perfect and the best calls ever, actually, we should see if hillary clinton's 30,000 deleted emails are on that server. There is a nonzero chance of this happening, tbh
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Sep 28, 2019 01:49
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Was this ultra secure Area 51 security filing system even known to the public before this whole thing? Well, this whole thing exploded soon after the Area 51 “raid”, so... 
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Google Butt posted:The degree to which they hosed up by putting those transcripts on that server and releasing one is unbelievable The Trump administration is full of morons who don't understand the implications of their actions and just try to do the easiest thing possible to make DT less angry that day? Those people, who have been completed picked for meekness and loyalty, aren't good at running a country? Nah, must be 11th dimensional chess
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Sep 28, 2019 01:49
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https://twitter.com/stark_talk/status/1177721196416253953?s=19 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B0CyOAO8y0 here comes the shitshow.
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Sep 28, 2019 01:50
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What's a good link about the Senate and NRA/Russia stuff? I know it ain't the NYT
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Sep 28, 2019 01:51
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would the president be breaking a law if they asked a phone conversation with a foreign leader be off the record?
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Sep 28, 2019 01:52
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:I'm imagining a White House where there's never been much loyalty or comradeship; similar to the Mirror Universe Enterprise in Star Trek. Now that this administration seems like it's in real danger, they're just letting it all rip. I can't say that I blame them, because I'd bet there's a lot of bad stuff we know little or nothing about, as yet. This was the inevitable end result of the Trump admin. The only glue holding these ghouls together was wanting to do crimes and believing that using the other ghouls would help them do crimes better. Of course they all kept dirt on each other to ratfuck the others and the second something pushed just hard enough everything starts being released in the hopes their dirt will be big enough to make some other poor fucker be holding the bag when the dust clears. The “what happens?” has always been when this happened does the GOP keep up their flimsy facade and pretend to care about law and order in regards to impeachment or do they drop it finally and just embrace not following any sort of laws or checks at which point our government just breaks completely down. Dr. VooDoo fucked around with this message at 01:57 on Sep 28, 2019 |
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Sep 28, 2019 01:53
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I just watched The Abyss again recently and it occurred to me that Lt. Coffey's death scene strikes me as a metaphor for what's happening to Trump right now. Trump goes off the deep end mentally, does something so bad that it's reported, and then the cracks start spreading outwards, more leaks... then implosion / removal from office.
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Sep 28, 2019 01:54
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https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1177748102155030528
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Sep 28, 2019 01:55
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Jesus Christ the dam won't hold together.
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Sep 28, 2019 01:59
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who is skullface?
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The fight to end Roe v. Wade enters its endgame next week Updated Sep 27, 2019 "The Supreme Court could dismantle the constitutional right to an abortion, and all it has to do is sit on its hands. The constitutional right to an abortion is almost certainly coming to an end — the only question is how long the Supreme Court’s new majority will take to kill it off. It’s not likely to be very long. On October 1, the Supreme Court will meet to decide whether to hear a case that could leave little, if any, of this right standing." One of the Most Powerful Anti-Abortion Groups Is Convinced the End of Roe v. Wade Is Coming Sep 26 2019 '“It’s more of a when than an if." In its 2019 legislative report, released Thursday, Americans United for Life found that so far this year, 58 “life-affirming laws” have been passed in 22 states. That’s more than a 25% spike over 2018. Around 40 abortion restriction-related cases are also currently making their way through the lower courts, and the majority-conservative Supreme Court will soon be forced to take one on, according to Glenn. “Within the next three to five years, we see that as something that’s getting closer and closer to an inevitability. And state legislators see that too, and so they are sort of acting in accordance with that,” Glenn said.' White evangelicals love Trump and aren't confused about why. No one should be. Sept. 27, 2019 "Liberals have a tendency to wring their hands at the strong support President Donald Trump — he of the three wives and multiple affairs, and a tendency to engage in exceedingly un-Christian-like behavior at the slightest provocation — continues to receive from the white evangelical community. White evangelical support for Donald Trump is still at 73 percent, and more than 80 percent of white evangelicals voted for him in 2016. But focusing on the disconnect between Trump's personal actions and the moral aspects of their faith misses the issue that keeps their support firm: racism. Modern evangelicals' support for this president cannot be separated from the history of evangelicals' participation in and support for racist structures in America." Think impeachment will help Trump? He's sure not acting like it September 27, 2019 Self-Impeaching: On the Trump-Zelensky Conversation September 25, 2019 An extremely detailed discussion about what got the orange poo poo smear into this kerfuffle. Useful maybe if your "friends" elsewhere worry about the "legality" of it all. (And because "elsewhere" seems to be producing arguments from 2 weeks ago.) A Phone Conversation Between Dread Lord Nyarlathotep and a Minor Shoggoth Regarding Investigating Rival Great Old One, Hastur September 25, 2019 Nerds! 
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Sep 28, 2019 01:59
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Dapper_Swindler posted:who is skullface? delaney
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Sep 28, 2019 01:59
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pahuyuth posted:What's a good link about the Senate and NRA/Russia stuff? https://twitter.com/RonWyden/status/1177586522880643072
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Sep 28, 2019 02:00
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Holy gently caress that chyron.
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Sep 28, 2019 02:00
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I'm not really getting excited about the other conversations being stored on the super secret server bit, because I'm pretty sure congress can't grab them, even behind closed doors, just for the hell of it. At least with Ukraine the intelligence committees had a reason through the whistleblower to believe he broke the law and their demands would have eventually been allowed by a court. "We're curious, and think they might be politically embarrassing" isn't enough, I don't think.
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Sep 28, 2019 02:00
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sean10mm posted:Now do it for all the redundant rolling backups in the SCIF. For all the substance to the quasi myth of us govt incompetence and inefficiency, there are a handful of things that they're staggeringly competent at and Trump and co definitely stumbled into one of them.
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Sep 28, 2019 02:01
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Rigel posted:I'm not really getting excited about the other conversations being stored on the super secret server bit, because I'm pretty sure congress can't grab them, even behind closed doors, just for the hell of it. At least with Ukraine the intelligence committees had a reason through the whistleblower to believe he broke the law and their demands would have eventually been allowed by a court. "We're curious, and think they might be politically embarrassing" isn't enough, I don't think. They were, to my understanding, improperly and illegally classified. edit: Or at least it's extremely obviously not what this classification is supposed to be used for, and boy there are at least six-ish officials ready to knife Trump to save themselves. The president has ultimate classification authority and it’s an open legal question whether he’s bound by executive orders, including one signed by Obama in 2009 that says information can’t be classified in order to “conceal violations of law, inefficiency, or administrative error” or “prevent embarrassment to a person, organization, or agency.” So shrug city on legality, but there's people ready to spill the beans and the only way to dispute that narrative is to release those transcripts. And if they don't it's safe to say people will assume the allegations are true. TGLT fucked around with this message at 02:07 on Sep 28, 2019 |
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Sep 28, 2019 02:02
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Rigel posted:I'm not really getting excited about the other conversations being stored on the super secret server bit, because I'm pretty sure congress can't grab them, even behind closed doors, just for the hell of it. At least with Ukraine the intelligence committees had a reason through the whistleblower to believe he broke the law and their demands would have eventually been allowed by a court. "We're curious, and think they might be politically embarrassing" isn't enough, I don't think. What makes you think that? And who defines "politically embarrassing"?
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Sep 28, 2019 02:02
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snorch posted:Holy gently caress that chyron. Hell yeah.
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Sep 28, 2019 02:03
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CHEF!!! posted:From what I've gathered, if someone were stupid enough to go in and delete these transcripts: Where are people getting information about this from? It doesn't make a lot of sense to me to go "this information is highly sensitive and it being released could cause grave damage to our nation, so let's make sure we make 50 copies of it and store them all over the place." I'm sure there's cold storage backups that exist, but with cold storage you don't normally make a copy immediately and you also don't make a lot of copies of it, as one copy of a file on a tape is typically adequate.
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Otteration posted:From WAY earlier, but yep: Someone is going to be the first chucklefuck who has been Fox News poisoned enough to try and play chicken with this steamroller. I wonder who it will be.
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Sep 28, 2019 02:05
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Strange Poon posted:they really are two peas in a pod huh? It literally seems too stupid to be true, but Trump has never really disputed what Rudy says and for all the people telling rudy to stfu, someone is definitely telling him to keep going. Plus there have been reports going back a long time now about Trump watching Giuliani's appearances on tv and loving them so yeah it looks that way. CHEF!!! posted:From what I've gathered, if someone were stupid enough to go in and delete these transcripts: for all our sakes I hope someone bites the bullet and burns down the entire system and all the backups because I'm not prepared for the wave of unbelievable smugness if, god forbid, tech saves us
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Sep 28, 2019 02:05
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Zophar posted:Jesus Christ the dam won't hold together. This is my favorite poem, but here's a relevant enough recitation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWRVyaKnGcA&t=558s
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Sep 28, 2019 02:06
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TGLT posted:They were, to my understanding, improperly and illegally classified. ok, and the answer to that is "woops sorry. OK, we will move them to our regular server, which you also cant have access to". We need to have reason to believe that the conversation itself contained discussions about crimes to have the intelligence committees get at them.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:
Ridiculous government bueracracy exists for a reason and this kind of poo poo is it.
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Sep 28, 2019 02:10
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Rigel posted:ok, and the answer to that is "woops sorry. OK, we will move them to our regular server, which you also cant have access to". Except I'm pretty sure that's not how it works. This level of classification and this server were chosen specifically to prevent congressional access. I'm fairly certain any other level of classification is perfectly accessible by congress. Plus I think "he is on record doing big crimes" is a fairly compelling reason. This isn't just Trump said an embarrassing thing, this is Trump extorting countries or acknowledging and okaying election interference.
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Sep 28, 2019 02:13
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TGLT posted:Except I'm pretty sure that's not how it works. This level of classification and this server were chosen specifically to prevent congressional access. I'm fairly certain any other level of classification is perfectly accessible by congress. yeah but can't IC reclasiffy or some poo poo. like if its clear these assholes are hiding their crimes on IC servers under false security coding.
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Sep 28, 2019 02:15
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pahuyuth posted:What's a good link about the Senate and NRA/Russia stuff? https://www.google.com/search?q=NRA/Russia&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjTp_rUq_LkAhUVGTQIHYLrCDAQ_AUIESgB&biw=1414&bih=1094 Take your pick.
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Sep 28, 2019 02:16
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https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1177749332738629632 https://twitter.com/NickNehamas/status/1177746479890534400
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Sep 28, 2019 02:17
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FuturePastNow posted:If he'd shot her instead he'd already be on death row It's amazing how in her world somebody had to die in that encounter.
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Sep 28, 2019 02:18
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Dapper_Swindler posted:yeah but can't IC reclasiffy or some poo poo. like if its clear these assholes are hiding their crimes on IC servers under false security coding. As far as I can tell, congress has access to documents that are classified as Top Secret, and these transcripts are Code Word classified which is sort of a compartmentalized subset of Top Secret. There isn't anywhere higher to go, at most they could try to shuffle them around which would probably make it clear to any judge that this poo poo isn't legit.
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Party Plane Jones posted:https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1177749332738629632 jesus, what a loving poo poo show. hopefully the WP story will take off MSN and House too.
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TGLT posted:As far as I can tell, congress has access to documents that are classified as Top Secret, and these transcripts are Code Word classified which is sort of a compartmentalized subset of Top Secret. There isn't anywhere higher to go, at most they could try to shuffle them around which would probably make it clear to any judge that this poo poo isn't legit. i mean can't IC just reclasify them as lower classification if it turns out a bunch of them are hidden because of crimes.
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