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Rhyno posted:I'd previously read that they wanted him in Captain Marvel 2.
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The next Spider-Man film will have Aunt May getting shot. The only solution? Peter must sell his closest relationship to Mephisto. He wakes up the next day. A faint memory stirs in his mind. Who was Mr. Stark? It probably wasn't important.
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FlamingLiberal posted:I saw that, and I thought it was odd since I was not aware they really interacted much in the comics Those were from chuds who said they wanted that because nobody likes Carol or Brie Larson
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no wait i got it, peter's mom was bitten by the cosmic ray spider and became spider-woman, so peter is a mutant site fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Sep 27, 2019 |
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Sep 27, 2019 16:57
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Rhyno posted:I'd previously read that they wanted him in Captain Marvel 2. I doubt that's accurate with Kamala Khan being introduced, but you never know
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The whole alt right Joker thing doesn't really make sense. Batman is a billionaire who spends his money on working with the police to beat up poor and mentally ill people to maintain the status quo. The Dark Knight trilogy is inherently right wing, with the villains being a right wingers nightmare about a made up eco terrorist, an anarchist who's entire goal is to show the public face of their Golden boy is actually a lie, which ends with a big sloppy BJ to the bush administration and the Patriot act, and a poorly thought out version of the occupy movement led by literal terrorists. What I'm saying is, the Joker is actually antifa.
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Codependent Poster posted:Glad to hear the Spidey news. There was way too much money at stake for them to not make a deal.
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Barry Convex posted:I doubt that's accurate with Kamala Khan being introduced, but you never know I think the rumor probably came from the Sam Jackson after credits scene in 2
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Vince MechMahon posted:The whole alt right Joker thing doesn't really make sense. Batman is a billionaire who spends his money on working with the police to beat up poor and mentally ill people to maintain the status quo. The Dark Knight trilogy is inherently right wing, with the villains being a right wingers nightmare about a made up eco terrorist, an anarchist who's entire goal is to show the public face of their Golden boy is actually a lie, which ends with a big sloppy BJ to the bush administration and the Patriot act, and a poorly thought out version of the occupy movement led by literal terrorists. It would be quite funny if antifa trapped a city's entire police force underground for a few months fake edit: I know Bane did it not Joker
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Shocker? SHOCKER! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWRjsqoSWTI
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Barry Convex posted:I doubt that's accurate with Kamala Khan being introduced, but you never know Since he's currently the only active member of the second generation of younger heroes, it would make a little sense for him to start showing up as the Sam Jackson of a phase. Rounding up the Kamalas and Kates and Ruris or whatever is coming up.
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Vince MechMahon posted:The whole alt right Joker thing doesn't really make sense. Batman is a billionaire who spends his money on working with the police to beat up poor and mentally ill people to maintain the status quo. The Dark Knight trilogy is inherently right wing, with the villains being a right wingers nightmare about a made up eco terrorist, an anarchist who's entire goal is to show the public face of their Golden boy is actually a lie, which ends with a big sloppy BJ to the bush administration and the Patriot act, and a poorly thought out version of the occupy movement led by literal terrorists. Way to summarise Batman: White Knight.
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X-O posted:If they're smart it'll be Spider-Man 3 and Fantastic Four. Spider-Man: Future Foundation would be dope (and a pretty good way to follow up on the idea of Peter being Tony Stark's protege).
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This is the only Spider-Man/FF crossover I'll accept  
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Madkal posted:Way to summarise Batman: White Knight. White Knight fuckin rules cause it gets it.
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David D. Davidson posted:I think the problem with the Joker movie is just timing. It's coming out at a time when mass shootings have become an almost daily event, three quarters of the American government are controlled by a political party with deep ties to the gun lobby and so refuse to do anything about it. Considering that Joker looks to be a film about the kind of people who would actually commit such an act, as well as the character's having a very strong appeal with those kinds of people. I think I can understand how people would be nervous about the whole movie. Remember every dumbfuck you met in 1999 and 2000 who really took the wrong things home from Fight Club? Now imagine them in a time where they're also echo-chambering on 4chan/8chan.
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Madkal posted:Way to summarise Batman: White Knight. I read this as Batman: Wayne Knight and now that’s the only Batman I accept
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Rev. Bleech_ posted:Remember every dumbfuck you met in 1999 and 2000 who really took the wrong things home from Fight Club? Now imagine them in a time where they're also echo-chambering on 4chan/8chan. You mean literally every white guy in college at the time?
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Rev. Bleech_ posted:Remember every dumbfuck you met in 1999 and 2000 who really took the wrong things home from Fight Club? Now imagine them in a time where they're also echo-chambering on 4chan/8chan. do boondock saints fanboys count too? please say yes
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Vince MechMahon posted:The whole alt right Joker thing doesn't really make sense. Batman is a billionaire who spends his money on working with the police to beat up poor and mentally ill people to maintain the status quo. The Dark Knight trilogy is inherently right wing, with the villains being a right wingers nightmare about a made up eco terrorist, an anarchist who's entire goal is to show the public face of their Golden boy is actually a lie, which ends with a big sloppy BJ to the bush administration and the Patriot act, and a poorly thought out version of the occupy movement led by literal terrorists. ive always wondered how Vigilante-style Comics characters like bruce and frank castle can be totally revamped so theyre not white male incel power fantasies (i know thats a bit of a given but still) how could a left-wing batman be written that doesnt just make him Green Arrow?
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^^^^^I think just more stories about the Wayne foundation's outreach programs and maybe show more of his nonviolent intervention on common criminals. Honestly I think the bad rap Batman has gotten recently is overblown, his stories barely show him pursuing nonsuper villain level threats I just wish they'd drive home that his charity's are for street crime and his gadgets are for the rogues gallery.Race Realists posted:do boondock saints fanboys count too? Of course. But I'm not sure there's another deeper way to interpret Boondock Saints. Either way, both Fight Club and BS(ooooh I like that) fall under the John Wick umbrella of Bad Guy vs Bad Guy and not Underdog vs "Society"(random innocent people) I also think the John Wick comparison is bogus on the grounds that Wick exists in a ridiculous world of assassins that is so much more removed from reality(and ironically 10X more comic book) than the gritty realism they appear to be pulling off in Joker. It's like the difference between Grand Theft Auto and like a date rape simulator game where you go through the subterfuge necessary to roofie women. Now if John Wick was a white supremacist, the hotel for assassins was a chat room, and his victims were all Walmart shoppers we might have something. Sgt. Politeness fucked around with this message at 10:18 on Sep 28, 2019 |
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At the end if the day, I still think this whole thing is silly. I don't think any film has made anyone kill people. And any time it has been reported (IE Childsplay role in Jamie Bolger's murder, the Dark Knight Rises in Aurora shooting, Taxi Driver in the Regan assassination attempt) it is always the case that it's a misinterpretation of the facts made by the media or an urban legend. There is always some bigger root problem (radicalisation, cheap availability of firearms, lack of treatment for mental health illnesses) that gets brushed aside since it's too difficult to easily fix (as opposed to "ban C film/ book/game.) The narrative in the media at the moment is that Joker is going to inspire someone to perform a mass shooting at a cinema (and also that it's going to happen at a screening of Joker. Which seems contradictory, if the idea is that the shooter becomes obsessed with the film, why would he go shooting up a showing of the film?) But why is Joker more likely to attract this kind of attention than any other film? Because it contains violence? (John Wick contains more violence and gun play. But I guess since its deliberately over the top, the lone shooter types recognize satire, or something. ) I don't know. It really seems like people want to buy into this flawed "blame the film this killer watched, not the killer himself" narrative that has been peddled since the Satanic Panic because they don't like the idea of the Joker film.
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Could Disney drop a trailer of anything so people can forget about Joker for a second? Like make a quick one of Spider-man? Throw a Fantastic 4 teaser? Come on,please. The Question IRL posted:I don't know. It really seems like people want to buy into this flawed "blame the film this killer watched, not the killer himself" narrative that has been peddled since the Satanic Panic because they don't like the idea of the Joker film. Some of the people who I've seen buying that (not in this forum, but on other social media), claim to do it because they hate the character. They hate the things Joker has done. Curiously, they don't mention the comic book writers or how and why Robin's death was decided. They just dislike the popular comic book bad guy clown. And that's a very dumb reason to be okay with satanic panic bullshit.
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The Twilight Zone is a film that made someone kill some people.
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Dan Didio posted:The Twilight Zone is a film that made someone kill some people. I don't think John Landis counts....
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Dan Didio posted:The Twilight Zone is a film that made someone kill some people. The Exorcist gave someone a heart attack. Edit: Or was it Evil Dead?
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Race Realists posted:do boondock saints fanboys count too? oh yes. CaptainApathyUK posted:I don't think John Landis counts.... the Original Helicopter Parent
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Dan Didio posted:The Twilight Zone is a film that made someone kill some people. Well using that criteria... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr9xVmCL0bA&t=203s
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Tbh i think the mistake being made in these arguments is the assumption that the movie will "make" someone shoot up a place, instead of it acting as a trigger for something a person has already been planning, which I find a a much more plausible scenario (although still with only a slim chance of happening I hope)Race Realists posted:ive always wondered how Vigilante-style Comics characters like bruce and frank castle can be totally revamped so theyre not white male incel power fantasies (i know thats a bit of a given but still) I thought David Walker's nighthawk did this well, if only for a brief time before being cancelled
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Race Realists posted:ive always wondered how Vigilante-style Comics characters like bruce and frank castle can be totally revamped so theyre not white male incel power fantasies (i know thats a bit of a given but still) Apart from focusing on having Bruce Wayne be the rehabilitative side, and Batman being the retributive as people were saying. The other thing might be changing his targets to targeting richer, more protected villains. Like imagine the bit at the start of the Dark Knight where he goes after the mobs accountant and just flies into China and extraordinary renditions him to a lamp post in Gotham. Only he is doing it to a guy who ran over a woman with his speed boat before fleeing to another country. Or having Batman going after a Jeffrey Epstein type instead of poor, street criminals. It does raise some issues (how people caught in a cycle of poverty and racism need help lot boots to their head...but they statistically also are the people who often commit violent street crime, the type that create Batman. And how it's okay for Batman to use his billions of military grade equipment to gently caress up the mob, because it's a power fantasy of violent criminals meeting someone stronger and meaner than them. But if he did that to say a Cartel connected mob, are we back to the uncomfortable image of a white man beating up Hispanic people?)
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This Joker conversation is just going around in circles here. In the interest of good faith, here's a question: Is it possible for a work of art to effectively encourage audiences to be better people, and is it legitimate to praise that work for this reason?
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Yes for example RingFit Adventure for Nintendo Switch can encourage you to be active and have healthy exercise
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Y'all want some fascist hot takes?! I think Steven Universe should be required viewing.
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