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Flip Yr Wig posted:That makes a lot of sense too, but in that case why would he let it go to a vote? I guess the obvious answer to this question is that he's planning on going back on this. Not holding a vote would be more damaging to Republicans.
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eke out posted:https://twitter.com/SteveKornacki/status/1178701376962125824 He only goes by Rasmussen polls which will probably poll support for impeachment at like 35%.
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Sep 30, 2019 17:15
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:He only goes by Rasmussen polls which will probably poll support for impeachment at like 35%. Polls using landlines to nursing homes all the way down.
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Sep 30, 2019 17:19
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:He only goes by Rasmussen polls which will probably poll support for impeachment at like 35%. He's literally just gonna see "Trump...approve...55%" and go with that
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Sep 30, 2019 17:20
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Flip Yr Wig posted:That makes a lot of sense too, but in that case why would he let it go to a vote? I guess the obvious answer to this question is that he's planning on going back on this. I think that in the event there are serious enough charges that the public supports removal, Mitch has no good choices left. All his choices are bad ones and his only option is to find the least-worst one. Holding a vote, and saying he's required to do so, is helpful to him personally by making whatever result be Not His Fault. It may also be the best political move because he may, for example, seek to hold a snap vote and just rip the bandaid off, compared to a months-long process of demanding he hold a vote that keeps it in the news. Finally, holding a vote may let everyone make whatever choice is best for their own state, while avoiding the party lashing itself too strongly to Trump's crimes in a way that will damage it long-term. I can't claim I have a strong, correct opinion on what his least-bad option would be, but his choice of words - that he is required to hold a trial - makes me think he's decided what his least-worst option is. He could easily have punted on the question and he decided instead to commit himself to that position.
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Sep 30, 2019 17:24
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sean10mm posted:Polls using landlines to nursing homes all the way down. That's gonna backfire "A peach mint!? Sounds good to me" *gets off phone* "Hey Ezra! They've got peach mints now! President Trump invented them!"
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I was reflecting today on how poo poo Obama was with regards to whistleblowers, and how I assumed that would carry through, so I'm a bit heartened by the fact that the whistleblower system seems to actually be working in this one case. It seems like the state of whistleblowing in the government is in a precarious position and Trump is just dumping all over it on Twitter. I'd support impeaching him for that alone.
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Someone, I think in here last week, posted the Senate rules around impeachment, and I do think that the way they are written gives the Senate Majority leader none of the flexibility that he has in controlling other Senate business, so he'd have to really bend the rules to squash it. And why bother when either Trump would be acquitted or enough of the GOP would vote to convict that Mitch might face a revolt if he tried preventing it.
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Sep 30, 2019 17:34
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new talking points are out! https://twitter.com/Liz_Cheney/status/1178626571013431296
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Sep 30, 2019 17:34
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evilweasel posted:I think that in the event there are serious enough charges that the public supports removal, Mitch has no good choices left. All his choices are bad ones and his only option is to find the least-worst one. Holding a vote, and saying he's required to do so, is helpful to him personally by making whatever result be Not His Fault. It may also be the best political move because he may, for example, seek to hold a snap vote and just rip the bandaid off, compared to a months-long process of demanding he hold a vote that keeps it in the news. Finally, holding a vote may let everyone make whatever choice is best for their own state, while avoiding the party lashing itself too strongly to Trump's crimes in a way that will damage it long-term. by current senate rules he has basically no choice, so either he can muster a majority to change the rules or else he has to go through with it theoretically, though, they could just move to dismiss the articles immediately, which is what dems tried to do with Clinton. i think that's pretty much the only way to wash your hands of it in one vote without changing the rules, but at this rate it'd be disastrous for the swing state senators up this cycle
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Jethro posted:Someone, I think in here last week, posted the Senate rules around impeachment, and I do think that the way they are written gives the Senate Majority leader none of the flexibility that he has in controlling other Senate business, so he'd have to really bend the rules to squash it. And why bother when either Trump would be acquitted or enough of the GOP would vote to convict that Mitch might face a revolt if he tried preventing it. Avoiding it completely will let vulnerable Senators in blue/purple states duck a vote that may flip those seats blue. If McConnell believes this is a risk, he will use any means to prevent the vote. If the GOP loses the Senate he loses ALL his power. That's more important to him than Rs in the WH.
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Sep 30, 2019 17:36
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Au Revoir Shosanna posted:new talking points are out! What in the gently caress? The last thing Pelosi says in that clip is "it was in the public domain" and IT WAS. We all knew what was being alleged in the call before the transcript/memo came out. (Except we all expected the memo to refute what was in the public domain, rather than, ya know, verify it)
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Sep 30, 2019 17:37
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Au Revoir Shosanna posted:new talking points are out! Lmao, this is loving stupid. The defenses are getting more and more desperate.
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Au Revoir Shosanna posted:new talking points are out! How could one of the most connected political figures in modern America know about the crimes of the leakiest administration ever??? rly makes u think
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Sep 30, 2019 17:37
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Like 80% of the defenses are stuff that would have worked (in lovely sleazy bs ways) if Trump hadn't released the transcript.
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Sep 30, 2019 17:38
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Checks and Balances are a political setup.
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Sep 30, 2019 17:39
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Yeah, he absolutely has brainworms.
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Sep 30, 2019 17:39
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Jethro posted:Someone, I think in here last week, posted the Senate rules around impeachment, and I do think that the way they are written gives the Senate Majority leader none of the flexibility that he has in controlling other Senate business, so he'd have to really bend the rules to squash it. And why bother when either Trump would be acquitted or enough of the GOP would vote to convict that Mitch might face a revolt if he tried preventing it. There was a very good tweet thread running through all the possibilities. Mitch is not able to act unilaterally with total freedom, he will require the consent of a Senate majority for whatever he does. He also cannot do this quietly, the Senate will have to take a vote to approve his course of action which means each Senator goes on record as to their opinion of it. So basically passing the articles of impeachment will compel a response with lasting consequences, no matter what form that response takes.
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Sep 30, 2019 17:40
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Sep 30, 2019 17:41
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https://twitter.com/richterscale/status/1178711122389676034 https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1178706009054961664 https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1178710417197154307
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There Bias Two posted:Yeah, he absolutely has brainworms. No, Newt has always been a completely conscious hypocrite and liar. He will say whatever he needs to be saying, he has zero shame.
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Sep 30, 2019 17:43
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How many times has Newt been divorced again?
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Jaxyon posted:No, Newt has always been a completely conscious hypocrite and liar. He will say whatever he needs to be saying, he has zero shame. I meant to refer to the Giuliani Fox tweet, whoops.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:How many times has Newt been divorced again?
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Reminder that Newt was the one who legitimately pushed Child Labor in 2012 during his presidential run
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Sep 30, 2019 17:56
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While most of them are cowards, the few True Believers going on shooting sprees is what worries me.
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evilweasel posted:we will stand up, and quickly collapse, winded, upon our rascal scooters Large print font is a pre-req for any boomer facebook-sharin' propaganda
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https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1178708882920751104 So how long until Trump openly attempts to extort the Ukrainian government again by threatening them unless they help him but this time all on Twitter?
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Sep 30, 2019 18:01
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Which Federal Building is going to get attacked this time?
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Au Revoir Shosanna posted:new talking points are out! If a cop pulls you over immediately demand to know why they didnt pull you over sooner.
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Sep 30, 2019 18:02
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Where the hell did GROPOH come from, that's clunky as hell
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There’s not enough Minions in those Facebook pictures.
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ryde posted:I was reflecting today on how poo poo Obama was with regards to whistleblowers, and how I assumed that would carry through, so I'm a bit heartened by the fact that the whistleblower system seems to actually be working in this one case. It seems like the state of whistleblowing in the government is in a precarious position and Trump is just dumping all over it on Twitter. I'd support impeaching him for that alone. What whistleblowers that went through the system under Obama do you have issue with? the big deal this time is that this whistleblower went through the whistleblower system that they teach you and is on all of your paperwork when dealing with secured information. bird cooch fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Sep 30, 2019 |
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If some of those MAGA creeps start shooting it's people of color who will bear the brunt of it. There's nothing funny about them getting closer to whipping themselves up into a murderous rage. https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1178716208314699776
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