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I caught up to the manga from where the anime left off this weekend and it's pretty good except around halfway through the swordsman arc where it became obvious that the series was being pushed on fast forward. Two of the upper blood moons at the same time? OK I guess. and then the next thing that happens fight-wise is Muzan goes up and starts what seems to be the final battle? I need more Inosuke.
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Yeah, the manga has always felt quite fast-paced, but never in a really bad way. It's accelerated recently though, and I don't think anyone here likes how it's done so. (Correct me if I'm wrong please)
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Sep 30, 2019 23:30
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pacing's fine imo
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Sep 30, 2019 23:45
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I think it's been fine? I don't think there was anything to gain from wasting time on demons that weren't the Upper Moons once the story had reached the point of confronting them.
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Sep 30, 2019 23:47
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I think you can look at Genya to really see how much the pacing is staggering around. I feel like that character was supposed to be the next person in The Crew but instead he's just kind of roped along to having these big finale moments. All the stuff that could've more steadily unfurled about him is being shouted at us from someone passing by in a car. Plus the power-ups for everyone are just coming hand over fist without being all that well explained, but I've complained about that one more extensively already. The prettyboy upper moon also I think really got weakened. I feel like that dude should've been a whole arc with the characters having to navigate his hosed up cult instead of his hosed up cult being something we're being directly told about. There's been a lot of telling and a lot less showing.
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Oct 1, 2019 00:24
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I like the fast pace, but I do feel like some things could've worked much better by taking it just a smidgen slower. Like the anime made me like those few moments where e: Slight grammar goof-up. 
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Oct 1, 2019 00:30
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It feels like they got the "wrap it up" signal and then the anime blew up. I imagine editorial is kicking themselves in the rear end a bit over that now.
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Oct 1, 2019 00:55
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i think a big thing would have just been to keep each arc to one Upper Moon at a time, and spread out the arcs of the Pillars as well.
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Oct 1, 2019 01:02
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Patware posted:I think you can look at Genya to really see how much the pacing is staggering around. I feel like that character was supposed to be the next person in The Crew but instead he's just kind of roped along to having these big finale moments. All the stuff that could've more steadily unfurled about him is being shouted at us from someone passing by in a car. I don't get this at all. genya was established early, we got to know him in the swordsmith arc, and then he became tanjirou's friend during the training arc that followed. there's nothing missing from genya's story zenitsu's is more abrupt and poorly executed than genya's
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Oct 1, 2019 01:10
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Wark Say posted:I like the fast pace, but I do feel like some things could've worked much better by taking it just a smidgen slower. Like the anime made me like those few moments where Fans like me. 
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Oct 1, 2019 01:13
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From a shounen perspective yes it makes sense to have each upper moon make up an arc but it doesn't really make sense from a story perspective. Why would muzan show himself to be the final boss if all his strongest demons are dead? The humans had to be genre savvy enough to catch him by complete surprise, to make him think that it was the series middle arc and not the final one
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Oct 1, 2019 01:15
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I got the impression that the series was doing fairly well in both sales and the WSJ ranking polls, though? Like One Piece is never going to move from #1 in the foreseeable future because even if you're super optimistic about Dragon Ball's sales after its revival in the 2010's, Oda's opus has it beat for at least 150 million copies (and not even gonna mention the rock-gently caress insane amount of merchandise that Shueisha has kept moving thanks to them Straw Hats and co.), but I thought that MHA, KNY, Dr. Stone and Promised Neverland were pretty much the actual interesting competitors throughout 2017 and 2018 on said polls?
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Oct 1, 2019 01:16
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Fabricated posted:It feels like they got the "wrap it up" signal and then the anime blew up. I imagine editorial is kicking themselves in the rear end a bit over that now. That doesn't make sense though, since as far as I'm aware the manga has been doing extremely well for quite a while.
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Oct 1, 2019 01:17
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they should have left the lower 12 alive so our plucky trio could get more solo fights
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Oct 1, 2019 01:26
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Oh Snapple! posted:That doesn't make sense though, since as far as I'm aware the manga has been doing extremely well for quite a while. Zenitsu's opposite number has shown up like...twice? In a flashback, then when he gets killed. Zenitsu gets a letter he never explains during the training arc preceding the final battle which is probably how his teacher had to kill himself over his student becoming a demon. Douma literally pauses his fight and pokes his brain to loredump Inosuke's backstory. It really feels like an editor influence thing or a "Wrap it up" thing.
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Oct 1, 2019 01:36
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Patware posted:
We learned about Douma's cult when he first appeared. Though I do agree he could probably have had his own arc. However I would not say he was weakened, in terms of Raw Power I would say he was the strongest of the Upper Moons. His Ice powers were stupidly devastating, and the fact that he could create copies of himself with the same powers was even more impressive. He died cause he unknowingly ate a ton of poison.
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Oct 1, 2019 02:29
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Douma died because he was arrogant. All Upper Moons died because they couldn't escape their human nature.
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Oct 1, 2019 02:41
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The power levels for the upper moons actually kinda feels pretty logical. Akaza was 3rd and it took the MC and one of the better Pillars to barely beat him, Douma was 2nd and two non-pillars barely cut his head off after he eats literal pounds of deadly poison on accident and kills a pillar, Kokushibou gasses out fighting the two strongest pillars (both of which he fucks up fairly bad) and kills another pillar that had previously soloed upper moon 5 and a non-pillar who was hopped up on demon flesh. Gyuutarou only did as much damage as he did and took as much effort as he did because no one was marked at the time.
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Fabricated posted:The power levels for the upper moons actually kinda feels pretty logical. Akaza was 3rd and it took the MC and one of the better Pillars to barely beat him, Douma was 2nd and two non-pillars barely cut his head off after he eats literal pounds of deadly poison on accident and kills a pillar, Kokushibou gasses out fighting the two strongest pillars (both of which he fucks up fairly bad) and kills another pillar that had previously soloed upper moon 5 and a non-pillar who was hopped up on demon flesh. Kanao was also stated as being stronger than Shinobu was so she was piller level.
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Oct 1, 2019 03:16
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I also get the impression that, fancy Demon Blood Arts aside, Kokushibou is probably somewhere not too far from Muzan in raw strength.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Kanao was also stated as being stronger than Shinobu was so she was piller level.
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Wark Say posted:I also get the impression that, fancy Demon Blood Arts aside, Kokushibou is probably somewhere not too far from Muzan in raw strength. I would say Douma was more impressive to me in terms of Raw Power. Kokushibou was much more impressive skill wise however, which made it much harder to actually hit him. Hantengu had a similar level of raw strength to Kokushibou, and was for sure stronger than Akaza in that respect, even if Akaza was more dangerous due to how his power worked.
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Oct 1, 2019 03:46
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God I loved the Akaza fight and resolution so much.
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Oct 1, 2019 04:21
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Akaza's backstory was the most gut-wrenching to me since the spider guy. The other ones didn't have quite as much impact on me as far as tragedy goes.
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Oct 1, 2019 04:27
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The way the demons(except Douma) are twisted versions of their human selves is really well done.
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Oct 1, 2019 05:36
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And that's why Douma's the best Bored not giving a drat, died not giving a drat, rip the realest one
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Rody One Half posted:And that's why Douma's the best It was funny how he was all like "Hey, if Akaza could surpass his limits then I could too!" and then when he failed right away he was like "Oh well I guess I'll die."
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Oct 1, 2019 07:41
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Even at the end Douma was like "oh I died. That's a thing I guess- oh hey Shinobu what's up"
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:It was funny how he was all like "Hey, if Akaza could surpass his limits then I could too!" and then when he failed right away he was like "Oh well I guess I'll die." Yeah he was just like. Nope way too much poison affecting me, no way can I get back up. Oh well. mabels big day posted:Akaza's backstory was the most gut-wrenching to me since the spider guy. The other ones didn't have quite as much impact on me as far as tragedy goes. Well Akaza and Daki were the only members of the Upper Moons that actually had tragedy in their backstory. Kokushibo was a envious of his brother and too arrogant to believe that anyone that came after him would be special. Douma was a sociopath with no true emotion. Hantengu was a selfish cowardly rear end in a top hat. Like from what we saw, there was little difference between Douma and Hantengu's human and demon selves.
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Oct 1, 2019 17:36
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We still have the upper moon that's warping stuff around via stringed instrument who is fighting snake and love pillars, as well.
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Oct 1, 2019 17:44
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Fight's a bit of a strong word
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177 is out. Anyone else see a 7 deadly sins theme with the Upper 6 moons? Muzan is Pride, #1 is Envy, Akaza is Wrath, Hantengu is Sloth. I guess Gyokko would be Gluttony, Doma Lust, and that leaves Daki and Gyutaro as Greed? It kinda works? Their replacements(Biwa lady for Hantengu, Zenitsu's partner for Daki/Gyutaro) work with the theme too. EDIT: Maybe Gyokko would work better as Pride, which leaves Muzan as Gluttony. RatHat fucked around with this message at 12:50 on Oct 5, 2019 |
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Oct 5, 2019 12:38
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71-79 also have official translations now, I believe.
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Oct 5, 2019 20:15
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really good chapter https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1003815
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Oct 7, 2019 00:03
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Poor boy Could see all disease except his brothers brainworms
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Jose posted:really good chapter that realization over why he was always clinging to his mom really got me 
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Oct 8, 2019 05:04
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Given his disposition and ability, he would have made a really good doctor
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Oct 8, 2019 18:56
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Anime only guy here, but I couldn't wait so I started reading the manga and just finished the train arc. The movie is going to be delicious.
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i'm going to miss it when it ends https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1005633
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