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sebmojo posted:Franc has noted we don't have an Inktober thread, does someone arty want to make one? Unless there's a wider Inktober audience that isn't already posting in the DDD thread I'm not sure we need one, for me at least it would just mean posting the same thing in both threads. Although if we think one would be a good idea I don't mind starting it - maybe if there were a way to get some attention to it from other subforums that aren't actively posting in the DDD thread? Kanine posted:its a race to the loving bottom my dudes it's the worst. Fiverr, Freelancer, WeWork, UpWork, all of them are trash and shouldn't be allowed to exist. They all force you to match your prices to the designers on it with the lowest cost of living. I used to live in San Francisco and for that website to be useful for paying my rent (just rent, nothing else!), I calculated that I would have had to do ~130 logo designs per month based on the average price signs were going for. So, only 4 or 5 logo designs every single day of the month. Totally sustainable.
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My Spirit Otter posted:I want to edit a gif for a photoshop thread in gibbis, however, I've never even attempted editing a gif before so I'm wondering if there are any guides, tutorials or whatever that someone give me? Everything I've managed to find is on how to make a gif and not edit one. Could you expand on your problem or what you're trying to do? To view the timeline in Photoshop you go to Window>Timeline
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gmc9987 posted:it's the worst. Fiverr, Freelancer, WeWork, UpWork, all of them are trash and shouldn't be allowed to exist. They all force you to match your prices to the designers on it with the lowest cost of living. I used to live in San Francisco and for that website to be useful for paying my rent (just rent, nothing else!), I calculated that I would have had to do ~130 logo designs per month based on the average price signs were going for. So, only 4 or 5 logo designs every single day of the month. Totally sustainable. 
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lofi posted:Everyone gleefully undercutting each other?
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  While the jacket isn't on him yet, the fact it looks good like this has me really excited. the lady teaching me stuff said a good way to deal with the rest is to buy some toddler clothes, which I'm inclined to do since making this jacket from scratch has been tedious.
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fauna posted:there's no glee in it for anyone but the "clients", that's the tragedy, it's all raw human desperation One slight silver lining - I got much the same impression on fiverr, but when I tested the buying process it looks like most people add a load to the price through options - you can only actually get a quick doodle for X, if you want a background that's +Y, if you want colour that's +Z. So "real" prices weren't quite as horrible as they looked at first. But yeah, it's still depressing as hell. I'm trying to figure out how to find clients, and 'not online' is starting to look like a fact. E: Sharkdude is making me smile plenty though! 
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Diabetes Forecast posted:
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Diabetes Forecast posted:While the jacket isn't on him yet, the fact it looks good like this has me really excited. the lady teaching me stuff said a good way to deal with the rest is to buy some toddler clothes, which I'm inclined to do since making this jacket from scratch has been tedious. You totes need to get a tiny bike too, and spray it black/chrome for him to ride.
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Made the mistake of telling a coworker I liked to draw back in the day and now she’s after me to draw a thing for the team which will both take a bunch of time and not pay anything. Damnit woman I specifically phrased what I said in the past tense to avoid this exact situation! 
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"Sure, send me the specs and I'll work up a quote for you" e: "Can you get someone to cover me for the day while I do it then?"
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readingatwork posted:Made the mistake of telling a coworker I liked to draw back in the day and now she’s after me to draw a thing for the team which will both take a bunch of time and not pay anything. Damnit woman I specifically phrased what I said in the past tense to avoid this exact situation! Tell them you charge an hourly rate the equivalent of what you make at the job. Do not work for free unless it's for an animal charity, and even then only if you want to and not 'cause some incredible buttmuncher found out you got talent and is now bullying you to use your talent for their benefit. Although, if your coworkers are fair, it's not bad to be owed a favour. Or if they got a talent of their own, this is a fine time to ask for the most extravagant cake they can bake, or for them to fix something in your house, knit you a thing, get a bottle of their famous apple wine/jam/essential oils, a fanfiction with your favourite character etc etc.
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^^^ Not a bad idea. If I had more time and energy to dedicate to this kind of thing I might try something like that. lofi posted:"Sure, send me the specs and I'll work up a quote for you" Haha, if it were my boss I probably would have given these answers. This is just someone trying to do something nice for the department though so it feels like I’m being a dick if I say no. I mean... I’m still totally going to say no, but I’m going to feel bad about it. readingatwork fucked around with this message at 00:03 on Oct 24, 2019 |
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Also 100% gently caress guilt-tripping an artist 'cause they won't work for free for "a common cause". Do you know how many personalized birthday and farewell cards I did before I grew a spine? Too goddamn many. And people were always like "that's her contribution to the pot" while everyone else throws in a 2-euro coin and you've spent several hours making a card and then trying to print it and finding out that the printer's out of loving cyan AGAIN so now you gotta go and buy more ink just to get the piece of poo poo printed, on your own dime.
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That sounds painfully familiar. Hell, people learning you are Owner Of A Printer is bad enough.
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I was gonna say it's like owning a van, but honestly, if you let anyone know you got something they'd find useful they'll wanna use it. Oh you own a wallpaper table, a workbench and a bunch of tools? Guess who's renovating with none of that! Knitting on a break? Hey wanna make me a poncho?! Here is a blessing. My new smoof soft friend. Say hello.  My round buddy will make all the mistakes disappear. Whooooosh.
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Draw in pen, make stronk.
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readingatwork posted:^^^ Not a bad idea. If I had more time and energy to dedicate to this kind of thing I might try something like that. Draw something terrible and lovely and enthusiastically show your coworker. Bonus point if that's already how you roll.
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I am working on my draft for a graphic novel excerpt to submit with grad school applications. I'm handwriting the draft because I am apparently a boomer and I deserve to have my guts removed from my body with a spork.
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Gonna do a couple cartoony character drawings to warm up after being out of town/lazy for the past couple weeks. Anyone want anything drawn? It can be an anime character, an OC, your DND character, or whatever I don’t really care. Just know that these are just for practice and I’m trying to do them fast so they will probably suck pretty hard. Also: Blah blah no porn requests blah blah no commercial art blah. You guys know the deal.
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You could do my av if you like, I'd be interested to see what the rest of him looks like
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I'd like to see Lowtax in random cartoon styles.
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Okay those were way better suggestions than I was expecting.
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Definitely doing a couple more of your av this week.
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I had this bright idea that I would buy a couple of pads of cheap grid paper in size 11" x 17" and sketch out my excerpt for my graphic novel on that. My rationale was that it would be close to the actual size of the finished artwork and I could scan it and draw over it if I decided to ink and/or color digitally. Then it hit me while I was in the shower tonight that is a complete waste of time. What I should do instead is be making thumbnails. So I started making a sheet where half of the page is dots that I can connect to draw out panels and draw my thumbnails out on that. The other half is lines that I can write on. Since I'm brain damaged and prefer to work this stuff out with pen and paper instead of on a computer first, I can then print them out on copy paper, draw and write, and a feed scanner on a copy machine will be able to take them without any problems. I'll have to transcribe my writing into type since I write in bad print-cursive, but this makes it more portable for me since I don't have an art tablet that I can take with anywhere nor can I afford one.
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I'm not convinced that you need the dots - won't they just tie you into a very mechanical grid layout for your frames? I'm the same about thumbnailing on real paper, and just doing it on normal paper is fine.
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No, I prefer that gridded look. If it was good enough for Watchmen, it's good enough for me.
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This turned out to be a great idea. 
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Crosspostin' from PYF
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The printer part almost broke my immersion but the sequence of no edits at the end was free therapy and exactly what a person needs to hear.
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Making up corporation names and turning them into Latin has got to be the nerdiest thing I have ever done. Systemata Cacumina.
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We at Minima Mollis are proud to present Fenestra 98.
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So I am starting on the path of learning how to draw via whatever I can find. My first hurdle seems to be the 'right way' to practice. I often overthink things so I suspect I am doing this here. I am really interested character design and expressing myself through illustration. I have a variety of 'learn to draw' books but I find I am being pulled in different directions of "draw this comic maniqinn like this" and "draw from life". I feel like this is dumb and cliche post but any advice to how to practice drawing the human face and figure? Maybe this is just my life now? I dunno. I don't want to give up so worst case I just keep thrashing around like I am doing now and hope one day I don't hate something I draw. syntaxrigger fucked around with this message at 15:47 on Nov 8, 2019 |
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syntaxrigger posted:So I am starting on the path of learning how to draw via whatever I can find. My first hurdle seems to be the 'right way' to practice. I often overthink things so I suspect I am doing this here. I am really interested character design and expressing myself through illustration. I have a variety of 'learn to draw' books but I find I am being pulled in different directions of "draw this comic maniqinn like this" and "draw from life". You'll want to alternate between three learning "modes". The exact schedule is up to you but you'll want to do a healthy amount of each of these: 1) Just loving around. Seriously. Set aside a healthy amount of time to just play around and make random poo poo. The goal isn't to make anything to show anyone else but to have fun and loosen yourself up. 2) Serious study: For a MINIMUM of 30 minutes at a time draw from real life. Reading art books is great but actually drawing real people/places/things is what's going to give you the mental tool set to do genuinely good work. Start here if you're looking for ideas on where to begin: https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/ 3) Complete projects: This is where you actually sit down and make a complete illustration/comic/character design/whatever. The final result should be complete which means you're inking and/or coloring your work and trying to get it as close to professional quality as you are able. This mode is very important and one newer artists often skip because they don't think they're "ready". Don't be that person. Make the least lovely art you can and learn from your mistakes. You'll make not-lovely work with time. Also (and this is the part you'll hate) post your lovely finished pieces and get feedback. Getting critiqued sucks but you really do need other eyes on your work so that you can identify bad habits and improve. Hope that helps! E: Also, maybe do an entry for the Artdome? There's no minimum skill level for participating so give it a try.
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There are online life drawing tools for free that are great - if you can devote regular time to working with them you'll improve fast. The key (imo) is making your practice regular. Croquis Cafe Line of Action But Readingatwork is totally right, drawing from real life is ideal. Basically, just draw the thing you want to get good at a bunch. There's a time and a place for theory, but you need a good foundation of just-solid-practice. I totally sympathise with the over-thinking, it's a trap. Also if you own any Chris Hart books, burn them readingatwork posted:Also, maybe do an entry for the Artdome? There's no minimum skill level for participating so give it a try. Definitely do Artdome. It's fun, and the variety of challenges will stretch you. This time's challenge is actually about character design, so come join us if that's your thing! (Plus I'm in charge at the moment, and I can waive the sign-up date for you )
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readingatwork posted:You'll want to alternate between three learning "modes". The exact schedule is up to you but you'll want to do a healthy amount of each of these: lofi posted:There are online life drawing tools for free that are great - if you can devote regular time to working with them you'll improve fast. The key (imo) is making your practice regular. Readatwork you are 100% correct, I hate the idea of posting my work but I will. I even feel uncomfortable typing those words lol. Artdome looks cool and intimidating but you and lofi are right I need to get used to being uncomfortable. Could you elaborate or give examples of what "loving around" in a drawing or art context looks like? My mind's eye is just like "yeah scribble on the page" and I know that is wrong. It would just be helpful to have a few examples. Readatwork and lofi thank you both for the resources. I am going to try to make a habit around them. Including posting to an SA thread. I know there is one for traditional art. Lofi one thing I sort of get confused about is how to go about drawing from life. Is there a process to it, like I have seen some art youtubers suggest breaking down what you draw to abstract shapes and slowly refine. I can't seem to get my mind to understand how that would work with a human face. Or is it best to just try to draw the subject however feels natural and one day it just clicks? Thanks again for the advice. I find it oddly encouraging. Going to try to ride that wave as long as I can.
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syntaxrigger posted:Lofi one thing I sort of get confused about is how to go about drawing from life. Is there a process to it, like I have seen some art youtubers suggest breaking down what you draw to abstract shapes and slowly refine. I can't seem to get my mind to understand how that would work with a human face. Or is it best to just try to draw the subject however feels natural and one day it just clicks? You're going to find that one of the hardest things to do is to draw what you're seeing not what you think you're seeing. So you need to get in the habit of thinking of the Thing You're Drawing not as the Thing You're Drawing, but a series of shapes. A face has a lot of shapes in various amounts of detail, so you start with the most generic shape you can (this can be as simple as a square that the face fits in), and then progressively add slightly less generic shapes.
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I’d post to the Daily Drawings and Doodles thread to start. It’s a fairly chill place and you can get some good advice if you ask for it. As for the other thing, “loving around” means experimenting and taking chances. Think of it like drawing the way a small child would. You aren’t necessarily going to share these doodles with anybody (I throw away 95% of mine) or develop them into finished pieces so it’s OK if they turn out bad. Since there are no stakes feel free to go a little nuts. Do wildly exaggerated body types, draw your OC punching a nazi, draw a location from a book you just read. It may sound frivolous but the point is to loosen up and discover what works vs what doesn’t. Over time you’ll discover lots of little techniques or stylistic flairs that you can work into your more substantial drawings. Does that make sense?
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readingatwork posted:I’d post to the Daily Drawings and Doodles thread to start. It’s a fairly chill place and you can get some good advice if you ask for it. That makes more sense, thanks. dupersaurus posted:You're going to find that one of the hardest things to do is to draw what you're seeing not what you think you're seeing. So you need to get in the habit of thinking of the Thing You're Drawing not as the Thing You're Drawing, but a series of shapes. A face has a lot of shapes in various amounts of detail, so you start with the most generic shape you can (this can be as simple as a square that the face fits in), and then progressively add slightly less generic shapes. So try to follow the process of going from general to specific shapes in order to draw from life?
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