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Zerilan posted:Winter Soldier is good. i liked parts of civil war but as a whole it just doesn't hold together. although the best bit imo was when they're like "you got a bunch of people killed with that whole ultron thing you dumbasses" because superhero movies love to gloss over the thousands of dead and injured people that would be left behind by those battles. they even had a whole scene in ultron where they evacuate the city and they still show them that its not enough
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 16:47 |
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captain america played as an actual ultra patriotic guy from the forties would own because half of him would be him pissing everyone off with retrogade assumptions and the other half would be him looking at everyone else in horror because we run a profit military that he would almost certainly recognize as essentially fascist noone will ever write a version like that because captain america exists as a vehicle for liberal writers to wank about how theyre the real patriots theyd rather write weird bullshit about him being enrolled in a gay nazi boarding school than have him be racist against italians i think they did a story once where he was portrayed as being naive for not realizing that twins gently caress each other all the time in the 21st century but thats uh not really a very good example of antiquated prejudice
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 16:47 |
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Serf posted:the best bit imo was when they're like "you got a bunch of people killed with that whole ultron thing you dumbasses" because superhero movies love to gloss over the thousands of dead and injured people that would be left behind by those battles. my favorite pendulum swinging on this is Batman v Superman where they just happen to keep fighting in places that are explicitly mentioned as being totally abandoned
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 16:51 |
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Zerilan posted:Winter Soldier is good. I mean at least it didn’t have the comic’s message of “the people running gitmo are the good guys why would you think anything else?
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 16:53 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:my favorite pendulum swinging on this is Batman v Superman where they just happen to keep fighting in places that are explicitly mentioned as being totally abandoned "the finance district is obviously abandoned after sundown!"
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 16:53 |
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Some Guy TT posted:twins gently caress each other all the time in the 21st century just gonna drop that there with no explanation huh? is that like an actual, common thing outside niche fetlife communities? i've literally never heard anyone assert "it's 2019 heterozygous twins gently caress each other all the time now grandpa"
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 16:54 |
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Freaking Crumbum posted:just gonna drop that there with no explanation huh? I think in Ultimates, Magnetos kids were loving each other
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 16:57 |
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i dont read comic books i just saw this out of context panel years ago must not be as well known as i thought
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 17:08 |
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i read comics but i never read the ultimates i tend to only read things people say are good which rules out that series
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 17:10 |
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wow last i heard scarlet witch was just into robots
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 17:11 |
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I do like the "Millennial Socialism" reading of Spider-Man: Homecoming. Tony Stark is a billionaire technocrat wizard driven by ego, might have vaguely altruistic motivations but has huge blind spots towards to the collateral damage he causes. Sort of like Zuckerberg or Gates or Oprah or Bloomberg or Musk or coastal shitlibs. Vulture is essentially a upper-middle-class Trumper or Brexiteer who styles himself as working class and a victim of neoliberalism; but is really a tyrannical boss who lives comfortably as a rich weapons dealer, and profits off the same capitalist system as Stark. And Peter Parker is the millennial who grew up with liberal aspirations and emulated people like Tony Stark; but undergoes a rift with liberalism by being more intimately exposed to the blind spots that Stark ignored while interacting with normal people. The film ends with him voluntarily rejecting membership to the Avengers to carve his own path and build socialism locally in his neighborhood. Of course, Iron Man is a hero; so for this metaphor to work, we would have ignore the fact that Stark's real life counterparts are pretty much evil. Also, Peter Parker's broader arc in the MCU kind of fucks up this reading too.
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 17:31 |
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The Ultimates was complete dogshit except for Black Nick Fury and Miles Morales, everything else was bad. My God all the cannibalism
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 17:33 |
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Echo Chamber posted:I do like the "Millennial Socialism" reading of Spider-Man: Homecoming. I'm reminded of a popular thing that circulated around the nerd corners if the Facebook a few months ago and it was what Marvel character would vote Trump and isn't a villian? ABC's a lot of people got mad when people said Tony Stark
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 17:35 |
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the vulture is the hero of homecoming, as he's the only one willing to call stark out for what he truly is. and mcu spider-man is basically a pinkerton but he does it for fun
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 17:36 |
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I really enjoyed Ultimate Spider-man when I was 14, but at the same time I had a passionate loathing for Brian Michael Bendis which is even more justified looking back at some excruciatingly bad bits.
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 17:45 |
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Thank God they made an anime about playing german boardgames
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 17:48 |
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coathat posted:Thank God they made an anime about playing german boardgames What?
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 17:50 |
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Echo Chamber posted:I do like the "Millennial Socialism" reading of Spider-Man: Homecoming. I enjoy this. Serf posted:the vulture is the hero of homecoming, as he's the only one willing to call stark out for what he truly is. and mcu spider-man is basically a pinkerton but he does it for fun Vulture is not actually a working class hero, look at his loving house! "I have a family to support" goes out the window when you're spending millions on having the nicest home in the nicest suburb. Yes he correctly calls out Stark but that doesn't excuse becoming an alien weapons dealer and killing people.
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 17:52 |
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Freaking Crumbum posted:also i haven't read a captain america comic since the end of the civil war run, but have they recreated his iconic punching hitler scene with him punching an alt-right pepe or are the writers aware enough of where their bread gets buttered that they won't cross that line guess the writer ta-nehisi coates
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 17:54 |
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WampaLord posted:Vulture is not actually a working class hero, look at his loving house! "I have a family to support" goes out the window when you're spending millions on having the nicest home in the nicest suburb. who's he kill? logan marshall green? big loss. dude pulls off bloodless heists to steal from the worst capitalist on the planet who hosed him over and makes a nice living for him and his crew
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 17:55 |
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KomradeX posted:What? https://www.funimation.com/shows/after-school-dice-club/?qid= During a beautiful spring day in Kyoto, Aya and Miki follow the student council president Midori to a board game shop. The three students end up discovering a German board game that causes them to realize their shared passion for games. In the coming days, many more board games will be found and played!
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 17:55 |
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WampaLord posted:Yes he correctly calls out Stark but that doesn't excuse becoming an alien weapons dealer and killing people. he killed like one dude, and only because they needed to make the explicit statement that This Is Supposed To Be The Bad Guy because the writers are dogshit for repeatedly having sympathetic villains Killmonger Did Nothing Wrong
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 17:56 |
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The small business owner criminal working class hero
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 17:57 |
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also nobody here said vulture was a working-class hero, that's a weird hallucination
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 17:58 |
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coathat posted:The small business owner criminal working class hero what does being a "criminal" have to do with it? of course people have to operate outside the bounds of the law
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 17:59 |
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tbf i read his killing of logan marshall green him just trying to make things easier for the public by no longer having a tom hardy doppleganger to confuse them plus dopplegangers can't be trusted didn't anyone else play that bg1 dlc
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 18:10 |
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Percelus posted:tbf i read his killing of logan marshall green him just trying to make things easier for the public by no longer having a tom hardy doppleganger to confuse them y'know i used to think this too, but logan marshall green owns. upgrade in particular is fantastic. if we're eliminating tom hardy clones, we should get jai courtney instead
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 18:11 |
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Serf posted:y'know i used to think this too, but logan marshall green owns. upgrade in particular is fantastic. if we're eliminating tom hardy clones, we should get jai courtney instead i've never once confused jai courtney with tom hardy but jai courtney is worthelss so if you want to kill him go ahead at least i won't have to suffer watching anymore movies with him
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 18:12 |
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Percelus posted:i've never once confused jai courtney with tom hardy but jai courtney is worthelss so if you want to kill him go ahead at least i won't have to suffer watching anymore movies with him i spent a long time looking at courtney in suicide squad and he's basically just more tom hardy. and somehow he was a bright spot in that dismal film
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 18:15 |
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coathat posted:https://www.funimation.com/shows/after-school-dice-club/?qid= Wonder if half the anime will about buying games buy never having the time Rio actually play them with people. drat will anime just turn anything into a show
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 18:21 |
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https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1179824204834672641?s=20
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 19:25 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:Killmonger Did Nothing Wrong aside from killing the museum staff and destroying a species of plant that can apparently cure just about anything and attempting to take on every superpower in the world with one country’s industrial capability in race war. which granted was because Disney is garbage at writing villains and it’s really hard to write a country that can basically solve all the world’s problems but leaves it to rot instead as the good guys. I remember walking out of that movie disappointed as hell by how much they wimped out like they were writing something making an actual statement but Disney stepped in and said they couldn’t do anything that alienated viewers. basically what they did with The Boondocks after the first season. that was actually the last MCU movie I watched aside from the gloriously cheesy third Thor and I have zero interest in any of the rest of them.
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 19:54 |
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22 Eargesplitten posted:aside from killing the museum staff and destroying a species of plant that can apparently cure just about anything and attempting to take on every superpower in the world with one country’s industrial capability in race war. killmonger did nothing wrong and would have won
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 19:58 |
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Bro Dad posted:guess the writer so wait, the villain is the blonde russian woman that wants to bring communism to the US? this is because she's also an agent of hydra or something, and not just because the prevalent narrative here is COMMUNISM = BAD right? because if she's the villain for wanting to bring communism, i'm even more confused. i thought coates was regarded as a fairly progressive dude? just a neo-lib fuckboi like all of the other shitlib heroes?
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 20:10 |
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Freaking Crumbum posted:so wait, the villain is the blonde russian woman that wants to bring communism to the US? this is because she's also an agent of hydra or something, and not just because the prevalent narrative here is COMMUNISM = BAD right? shes a literal russian nazi-commie trying to interfere in american politics
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 20:15 |
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Bro Dad posted:shes a literal russian nazi-commie trying to interfere in american politics OH NO COMMIE-NAZIS wait wait i surrender! TOO LITTLE TOO LATE
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 20:21 |
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it is some prime succ lib
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 20:23 |
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tfw your values are united
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 20:28 |
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Bro Dad posted:it is some prime succ lib do boomers even buy comics in significant quantities any more? i can't believe they're a big enough demo that you'd have any financial benefit for continuing to parrot their gently caress-up fantasy beliefs and talking points in modern comics
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# ? Oct 3, 2019 20:35 |
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Freaking Crumbum posted:do boomers even buy comics in significant quantities any more? i can't believe they're a big enough demo that you'd have any financial benefit for continuing to parrot their gently caress-up fantasy beliefs and talking points in modern comics I mean they are still mostly written by boomers so I think their sincere
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