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Continuity RCP posted:It's still not the royal army It's never going to matter but you don't think "I and everyone I serve with had to swear an oath of allegiance to the Queen before I could be a soldier" is more personally significant than "I'm in the Royal Army*" *There's good odds I'm in a Royal Regiment though. Deptfordx fucked around with this message at 15:01 on Oct 3, 2019 |
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It’s been that way since *checks wikipedia* 1689 so I don’t think it matters too much in practice? The entire reason England had a standing army at that time was so that parliament couldn’t try going full Cromwell again.
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The Canadian Army was called the Royal Canadian Army for a long time too.
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Re: the new helicopter proposal, how large do you think "lift-sharing wings" can get before the USAF starts angrily muttering and shifting in their chairs?
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Neophyte posted:Re: the new helicopter proposal, how large do you think "lift-sharing wings" can get before the USAF starts angrily muttering and shifting in their chairs? Long live the USAAC!
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Deptfordx posted:It's never going to matter but you don't think "I and everyone I serve with had to swear an oath of allegiance to the Queen before I could be a soldier" is more personally significant than "I'm in the Royal Army*" Continuity RCP posted:It's still not the royal army The oath of allegiance for British Armed forces solely comprises of declaring one's loyalty to the queen and her heirs in perpetuity. Nothing about defending the nation state or its people. All about loyalty to queen Lizzy and her heirs. Very much raised my ears when I heard it in person for the first time, not at all something I expected. Actually on reading it seems rather messed up in civic priorities for a current 21st century oath of allegiance in a contemporary nation state. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_of_Allegiance_(United_Kingdom) quote:I... swear by Almighty God (do solemnly, and truly declare and affirm) that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, Her Heirs and Successors, and that I will, as in duty bound, honestly and faithfully defend Her Majesty, Her Heirs and Successors, in Person, Crown and Dignity against all enemies, and will observe and obey all orders of Her Majesty, Her Heirs and Successors, and of the (admirals / generals/ air officers) and officers set over me. Mr Crustacean fucked around with this message at 15:43 on Oct 3, 2019 |
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At least it's fun
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Mr Crustacean posted:The oath of allegiance for British Armed forces solely comprises of declaring one's loyalty to the queen and her heirs in perpetuity. “Crown” represents the entire government. Basically the UK is weird.
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Cool article on environmental problems caused by the Donbas war https://www.fpri.org/article/2019/09/coal-mines-land-mines-and-nuclear-bombs-the-environmental-cost-of-the-war-in-eastern-ukraine/ quote:Perhaps most worrying is the state of the YunKom Mine, where in 1979 Soviet scientists set off an underground nuclear explosion in the hope of clearing gases from deep in the mine. They're gonna end up with another exclusion zone quote:If these assessments are correct and runoff from this mine adds nuclear contamination to the salts and other contaminants already being deposited into the water table, the water supply of the region could become so contaminated as to be permanently undrinkable within two decades. Someone make some sort of :Sovietdowns3.6 roentgen: smiley aphid_licker fucked around with this message at 18:02 on Oct 3, 2019 |
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Tape recordings of D-Day were uncovered and restored: https://www.stripes.com/news/us/the-antique-audiotape-was-a-mystery-then-a-researcher-got-it-to-play-it-was-a-dispatch-from-d-day-1.601363
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aphid_licker posted:Cool article on environmental problems caused by the Donbas war Why Russia allow to be a nuclear power again?
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Back Hack posted:Why Russia allow to be a nuclear power again? I assume theres a cool russian expression for "molon labe"
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hobbesmaster posted:I assume theres a cool russian expression for "molon labe" Cyka blyat
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Bobby Digital posted:Cyka blyat Strange how thats always the answer!
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Back Hack posted:Why Russia allow to be a nuclear power again? Because they’re a nuclear power.
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hobbesmaster posted:I assume theres a cool russian expression for "molon labe"
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Back Hack posted:Why Russia allow to be a nuclear power again? Tankies, basically, though they would have gotten their on their own. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_atomic_bomb_project#Espionage
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Kesper North posted:Tankies, basically, though they would have gotten their on their own. You can't be a tankie before the Hungarian Uprising.
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Sure you can, because Molotov-Ribbentrop happened in 1939. And the Holodomor before that. Walter Duranty was the original tankie.
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Mortabis posted:Sure you can, because Molotov-Ribbentrop happened in 1939. And the Holodomor before that. Walter Duranty was the original tankie. Did Walter have a tank?
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Stalinist is not synonymous with tankie
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Continuity RCP posted:Stalinist is not synonymous with tankie And yet like "Libertarian" and "pedophile" it is two venn circles that mostly overlap.
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Continuity RCP posted:Stalinist is not synonymous with tankie Wait I literally thought you made a joke about the tanks crushing the hungarian revolt, giving tankies their eponym. Not arguing the semantics of communist dictatorial apologists It's me, I'm the dumb one 
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:Wait I literally thought you made a joke about the tanks crushing the hungarian revolt, giving tankies their eponym. Not arguing the semantics of communist dictatorial apologists Is that you, ThisIsJohnWayne. Is this me?
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hobbesmaster posted:“Crown” represents the entire government. Basically the UK is weird. Also, they may swear allegiance to the Queen but they get paid by parliament, which has to legislate every five years to allow the Army to continue to exist - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armed_Forces_Act Newfangled notions such as 'nation states' and 'the People' largely post date this whole arrangement by a century or so, of course.
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Continuity RCP posted:Stalinist is not synonymous with tankie There's not a useful distinction. It's not like Stalin's methods were a big mystery contemporaneously. Orwell wrote about them in the 40s. And it's kinda the inevitable end state of communism in any case, as Solzhenitsyn lays out rather nicely.
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In fairness I think the term did originate with the Hungarian Revolution.
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Nebakenezzer posted:
This isn't a USMC program. Neophyte posted:Re: the new helicopter proposal, how large do you think "lift-sharing wings" can get before the USAF starts angrily muttering and shifting in their chairs? They won't fly high enough for the AF to care.
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Hauldren Collider posted:There's not a useful distinction. It's not like Stalin's methods were a big mystery contemporaneously. Orwell wrote about them in the 40s. And it's kinda the inevitable end state of communism in any case, as Solzhenitsyn lays out rather nicely. Solzhenitsyn provided an excellent criticism of a system that had ceased to exist long before The Gulag Archipelago was published. Moshe Lewin's The Soviet Century has a good chapter on the Soviet penal system.
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Hauldren Collider posted:There's not a useful distinction. It's not like Stalin's methods were a big mystery contemporaneously. Orwell wrote about them in the 40s. And it's kinda the inevitable end state of communism in any case, as Solzhenitsyn lays out rather nicely. ..Stalinism in the governance of the Soviet Union didn't outlast Stalin my dude. The end state of Soviet communism was about 1990 and it explicitly involved NOT sending tanks into client states to restore obedience. feedmegin fucked around with this message at 00:04 on Oct 4, 2019 |
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aphid_licker posted:Cool article on environmental problems caused by the Donbas war Speaking of nuclear testing, North Korea may not have handled their's with rigorous modern safety standards.
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feedmegin posted:Also, they may swear allegiance to the Queen but they get paid by parliament, which has to legislate every five years to allow the Army to continue to exist - As has been mentioned, trying to make logical sense of the (very effective!) shared hallucination that is the British Constitution is probably futile. That said, the power to declare war remains vested in the monarch, albeit of course exercised by her ministers. Parliament's consent is not required.
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Continuity RCP posted:Solzhenitsyn provided an excellent criticism of a system that had ceased to exist long before The Gulag Archipelago was published. Moshe Lewin's The Soviet Century has a good chapter on the Soviet penal system.  I guess this is on me and I should have looked at your avatar first. It's like arguing with a fundamentalist about evolution.
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I can't remember if it was this thread or some other thread but someone posted an absolutely awesome piece of revisionism explaining how gulags were actually quite pleasant, something more akin to a country spa I think we should all remember the true history of the gulag
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Re: helicopters with wings. What are the downsides--why haven't they been explored or used before?
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bewbies posted:I can't remember if it was this thread or some other thread but someone posted an absolutely awesome piece of revisionism explaining how gulags were actually quite pleasant, something more akin to a country spa Milhist thread, pretty sure.
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Hauldren Collider posted:
Eh, I find it hard to dismiss someone outright when they appreciate Solzhenitsyn. Then again, the Gulag Archipelago was published far after the fact because he was scared the Organs had caught wind of it. Torched the thing and started over. Lenin was a pussy. Couldn't even roll up on a motherfucker and do the business hisself, but made sure as many people suffered as possible.
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Hauldren Collider posted:
I'm not a Marxist. Are you actually a collider of hauldrens? E: read The Soviet Century E2: is it on topic to reenact a cold war argument? ContinuityNewTimes fucked around with this message at 01:54 on Oct 4, 2019 |
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