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skylined! posted:Here talk about this Published Aug 19, 2014. That's quite the pull... The article is poo poo though, that's for sure.
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skylined! posted:Trump keeping his options for non extradition countries open I guess. trump legit thinks kim is his friend/son/someone he cares more about than Junior. kim can throw water in trumps face all day and trump will just vacantly smile. also you know he loving asked kim to look into biden. evilweasel posted:attn: mike pence re: your crimes good but interesting. pence will NEVER be removed, so maybe deals will be made behind the scenes. who knows.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:good but interesting. pence will NEVER be removed, so maybe deals will be made behind the scenes. who knows. Pence is neck deep in this, and has hopes for a post-trump political career, so upping the pressure on him is a good idea. Neither Pence nor Trump is going anywhere, realistically speaking.
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Wasn’t going on Trump’s ticket a hail mary to revive Pence’s career?
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lol the washington post confirms that Johnson absolutely thought his long incriminating monologue was helpful for trump https://twitter.com/AaronBlake/status/1180206169731866625 quote:Senate Homeland Security Committee Chairman Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) stepped forward with a disclosure Friday that he apparently thought might help President Trump as he weathers his building Ukraine problems.
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evilweasel posted:Pence is neck deep in this, and has hopes for a post-trump political career, so upping the pressure on him is a good idea. Neither Pence nor Trump is going anywhere, realistically speaking. Considering he only became trumps VP after "a lot of praying" I can only conclude that God must have it out for Pence big time.
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Somebody please indict this goddamn toad Pants Donkey posted:Wasn’t going on Trump’s ticket a hail mary to revive Pence’s career? Basically yes
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In House of Cards, didn't the Speaker of the House become President?
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evilweasel posted:Pence is neck deep in this, and has hopes for a post-trump political career, so upping the pressure on him is a good idea. Neither Pence nor Trump is going anywhere, realistically speaking. What would Pence do politically? Cabinet post? He's super unpopular in his home state and I don't see how he appeals to Trump's base. He's a boring bathroom warrior, not a loud rich rear end in a top hat.
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evilweasel posted:How so? All of those look pretty narrowly tailored to the subject of the Ukraine inquiry. Thorough is a better word. Demanding communications with the office of legal council and between the VP and Pres seems like the sort of thing that is going to be fought tooth and nail.
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Pants Donkey posted:Wasn’t going on Trump’s ticket a hail mary to revive Pence’s career? sorta: indiana pushed him hard to promote him out of the governor's office because he was gonna lose re-election. but pence took the job because VP is a step up from governor even if you're not an utter failure
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Pellisworth posted:What would Pence do politically? Cabinet post? He's super unpopular in his home state and I don't see how he appeals to Trump's base. He's a boring bathroom warrior, not a loud rich rear end in a top hat. pence wants to be president and thinks being trump's loyal lickspittle, but avoiding tying himself too much to trump's crimes, is the way to do it remember that mike pence is not a smart man
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This thread talks a lot about how there's a hard core Trump base that will never vote against Trump, even if he shot someone. What I was thinking about is, isn't there a similarly anti-Trump group that will never trust him? And I feel like the second group is the only one gaining members now. The polls show A LOT of people hate Trump, and I don't think they're going to switch back at this point. The only people he's normalizing behavior for is the people who already were for him.
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Hiro Protagonist posted:This thread talks a lot about how there's a hard core Trump base that will never vote against Trump, even if he shot someone. What I was thinking about is, isn't there a similarly anti-Trump group that will never trust him? And I feel like the second group is the only one gaining members now. The polls show A LOT of people hate Trump, and I don't think they're going to switch back at this point. The only people he's normalizing behavior for is the people who already were for him. absolutely. trump has no hope of winning the popular vote. trouble is that trump's base is more favorably dispersed than the sane majority under our political system.
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evilweasel posted:remember that mike pence is not a smart man yup, in Indiana he was known as "Mike Dense"
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OAquinas posted:Chris Hayes with a rather good question: I expect part of the reason why is because Ukrainian domestic pressure to join the EU (via the Euromaidan protests) was one of the inciting incidents behind the Russian invasion and annexation of Crimea in 2014. A lot of Ukrainians still want to join, and I’m sure a lot of neocons and neoliberals still want them to be part of the broader American/NATO empire.
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Angry_Ed posted:Somebody please indict this goddamn toad I have some bad news
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Pants Donkey posted:Wasn’t going on Trump’s ticket a hail mary to revive Pence’s career? It cut both ways, but yeah. Christian right bona fides and a shut mouth in exchange for a spotlight-adjacent seat outside a place he wasn't particularly well-liked anyway. Efb like twice, ugh
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Hiro Protagonist posted:This thread talks a lot about how there's a hard core Trump base that will never vote against Trump, even if he shot someone. What I was thinking about is, isn't there a similarly anti-Trump group that will never trust him? And I feel like the second group is the only one gaining members now. The polls show A LOT of people hate Trump, and I don't think they're going to switch back at this point. The only people he's normalizing behavior for is the people who already were for him. No, there are a lot of incredibly stupid people out there that barely pay attention that sway back and forth in the wind and while they might not like Trump personally 'hey he's good for the economy I guess.'
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A reveal that surprises absolutely no-one except for possibly Jacob Wohl and Jack Burkman. goethe.cx posted:I have some bad news I meant to say impeach, that's on me. Even so I'm just frustrated that this rear end in a top hat who covered up Iran-Contra is getting away with it again.
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Pellisworth posted:yup, in Indiana he was known as "Mike Dense" Pence was selling red-as-gently caress Indiana exactly the hard-right garbage they wanted, and they STILL told him to go gently caress off forever because he was just that much of a dumb rear end in a top hat. He's just less shouty than Trump, he's not actually competent or intelligent even compared to the average Republican politician from a red hellhole state.
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I'm amazed that he was actually a Marine to be honest.
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quote:It’s not the police, but the people they stop, who can prevent a detention from turning into a tragedy. Love the admission that cops are incapable of not shooting people who disrespect them. Here's the article if you'd like to read the whole thing
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Angry_Ed posted:A reveal that surprises absolutely no-one except for possibly Jacob Wohl and Jack Burkman. They probably made it up for him.
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sean10mm posted:Pence was selling red-as-gently caress Indiana exactly the hard-right garbage they wanted, and they STILL told him to go gently caress off forever because he was just that much of a dumb rear end in a top hat. sadly we'll not live to have a First Mother actually she could be titled Mother Superior and that would own
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empty whippet box posted:They probably made it up for him. Possibly, we'll know once they try to pass off a forged DD-214 as legit 
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If he only served two years because of something other than a debilitating injury, he did something reeeealy stupid.
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Oracle posted:No, there are a lot of incredibly stupid people out there that barely pay attention that sway back and forth in the wind and while they might not like Trump personally 'hey he's good for the economy I guess.' I'm not saying they don't exist either, I'm just saying one of those people just needs one event to shock them out, compared to the ones that stick with Trump needing to constantly pass by everything. A lot still manage, but I feel like once you start disliking Trump with even the slightest bit of thought and attention behind it, it's hard to get back into it's bubble. In other words, I don't think Trump is getting anymore hard core supporters as time goes on, just hemorrhaging the ones who accidentally make their way out. And there's no going back.
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pacerhimself posted:In House of Cards, didn't the Speaker of the House become President? No I think you're thinking of how during the 2016 election neither Frank Underwood nor the Republican challenger have enough electoral votes so it goes to the House for Presidency and Senate for the VP. Claire wins in the Senate and so is appointed VP, but Frank doesn't win the House. As a result, Frank has to hand the Presidency over to Claire for a bit until the House agrees to hold revotes in the two states that had canceled elections due to the phone terrorist threat Frank made up. By that point, Frank had gotten damaging material showing the Republican had mental health issues I think so he won the election and took the presidency back from Claire. Yeah it was a stupid loving season. The first season of the show was great (Kevin Spacey being awful notwithstanding), but the rest was just so bad.
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WeaponX posted:This is the bottom of the barrel right here. 
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i like how you can tell the fake accuser is juicing because of how lovely his skin is.
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Pissed Ape Sexist posted:If he only served two years because of something other than a debilitating injury, he did something reeeealy stupid.
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is that a motherfucking triple x tattoo? Obviously he sustained his injury as an XXXtreme BMXer turned spy
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hidden_msg posted:Considering he only became trumps VP after "a lot of praying" I can only conclude that God must have it out for Pence big time. That's what happens when you pray to a horse god.
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Rosalind posted:No I think you're thinking of how during the 2016 election neither Frank Underwood nor the Republican challenger have enough electoral votes so it goes to the House for Presidency and Senate for the VP. Claire wins in the Senate and so is appointed VP, but Frank doesn't win the House. As a result, Frank has to hand the Presidency over to Claire for a bit until the House agrees to hold revotes in the two states that had canceled elections due to the phone terrorist threat Frank made up. By that point, Frank had gotten damaging material showing the Republican had mental health issues I think so he won the election and took the presidency back from Claire. the core of it is that in the british system there's an easy and well-travelled route from second-most-powerful person in government to most powerful person in government, whereas in the american system that's basically unheard of, so they had to do a LOT of finagling to make the original's plotline even sort of work.
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Hiro Protagonist posted:I'm not saying they don't exist either, I'm just saying one of those people just needs one event to shock them out, compared to the ones that stick with Trump needing to constantly pass by everything. A lot still manage, but I feel like once you start disliking Trump with even the slightest bit of thought and attention behind it, it's hard to get back into it's bubble. In other words, I don't think Trump is getting anymore hard core supporters as time goes on, just hemorrhaging the ones who accidentally make their way out. And there's no going back. I guess that's the one upside of all this, one of the very few. Once that spell is broken it does seem to stay broken. It's just the effort of getting folks there that's the bitch.
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