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The rates aren't great compared to a lot of indie shops, but everyone has been pretty friendly and you get name recognition and networking since most of your co-writers and devs do their own stuff or work for other companies and, if you do good work, can help recommend you. This is a very networking-intensive industry that way, from what I can tell. Putting out homebrew material on the Storypath Nexus and other stuff like that can also help get you recognition, I'd think. Oh, and it's pay-on-publication, so your check won't come for a while if you get hired.
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Oct 4, 2019 21:46
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MonsieurChoc posted:Beast also gave us the Dream Warriors compact in Hunter. Beast also gave us the merit that allows beasts to run a pirate radio/tv station out of the collective unconcious, should they so choose. Which would be awesome in any other game.
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Oct 4, 2019 22:17
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Kurieg posted:Beast also gave us the merit that allows beasts to run a pirate radio/tv station out of the collective unconcious, should they so choose. The glorious return of Radio Free Death in the wrong loving game.
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Oct 4, 2019 22:55
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Kurieg posted:Beast also gave us the merit that allows beasts to run a pirate radio/tv station out of the collective unconcious, should they so choose. Holy poo poo, post that merit
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Oct 4, 2019 23:07
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Beast: Players Guide posted:Connected Lair (••)
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Oct 4, 2019 23:11
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Inzombiac posted:This probably isn't the right place but would you mind talking about writing for OPP? It can be a really rewarding experience and give a ton of confidence in creating your own work. That said you really need to weigh it against just doing your own thing because the pay isn't great, recognition is not guaranteed, and praise on one project doesn't necessarily mean new jobs. None which is personal but it can really grind you down.
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Oct 4, 2019 23:11
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Mulva posted:Connected Lair (••) Find-replace Lair with a changeling's Hollow or a demon's Bolthole and you're good to go.
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Oct 4, 2019 23:24
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TwoWordName posted:It can be a really rewarding experience and give a ton of confidence in creating your own work. That said you really need to weigh it against just doing your own thing because the pay isn't great, recognition is not guaranteed, and praise on one project doesn't necessarily mean new jobs. None which is personal but it can really grind you down. Ah, sounds about what I was expecting, unfortunately. I'll just keep chipping away at my own thing and maybe make enough money for a nice lunch.
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Oct 4, 2019 23:28
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Stealing this for werewolf
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Reading through the previous thread (Just 440 more pages to go!  ) when the Beast Player's Guide was dropped that very merit was brought up as a way to reenact Persona 4, with the Beast naturally being Izanami.Just another way to point out that it sucks that Beast is garbage peddled by an abusive bastard because it's bizarrely fascinating when it isn't being irredeemably hideous. A Beast's Poochie aura also applies to the drat game as a whole.
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Some day when I have time I want to write a ChroD fan splat that leans heavily on the astral / oneiros / temenos stuff, because it's one of the most interesting parts of the cosmology, but the only splats that really have easy access to it are Mages, Changelings, and Beasts; it's not a focus in Mage (and of relatively little interest to non-Mastigoi anyways except insofar as it's between us and the Supernal), crammed into too little word count in Changeling, and Beast is garbage. I'm thinking of something along similar lines to Leviathan: The Tempest except not as comically overcomplicated and unusable. Get as much mileage out of that "Astral Sea" imagery as possible, maybe make the PCs a more sympathetic version of Innsmouth fish-people, that sort of thing. Tuxedo Catfish fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Oct 5, 2019 |
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Oct 5, 2019 00:15
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Speaking as someone who literally just announced his retirement as Mage Developer ten minutes ago... You will never be rich. You will never get the recognition you deserve. The opportunities you get have more to do with who you drink with at conventions than the quality of your work, but you're only as good as your last delivery on those opportunities. You would make more money being the drummer in a pub band, and sell more books if you wrote porn. But it really is the best feeling in the world when people talk about game worlds you shaped, or you see an Actual Play or a FATAL & Friends of your material. Do it. Enjoy it.
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Are there any monster types that you folks would like to see be a playable book? I know there are a lot of old weirdo stuff so I'm basing this on what's on offer with the most recent gen. I have some notes about classic shapeshifters that I'd focus on if people were interested.
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Oct 5, 2019 00:25
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Witches. Not mages, like, actual people in pointy hats who run around on their high horse cursing people and getting into really petty neighborhood drama.
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Inzombiac posted:Are there any monster types that you folks would like to see be a playable book? Dragons, and kaiju/giant monsters generally. I realize this is way too overt for the ChroD proper, but speaking of the Astral and Beast's wasted potential, you could make a fantastic game about people who are giant monsters in the world of dreams and archetypal ideas, and who fight each other there for territory that corresponds to the social atmosphere of the human community they live in, kind of like with spirits and resonance except more explicitly related to people. Gorgons / medusae, and more broadly other Greek-flavored monsters that used to be people but got turned into part-monster chimeras as part of a (almost always unjust) punishment by the gods. Scion kind of scratches this itch but it's a heroic setting, I want that horror aspect of being betrayed and degraded because you wouldn't bow to someone who already has nearly absolute power.
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Oct 5, 2019 00:29
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I always avoid witches because I incorrectly think Crone has it covered. They don't, obviously. For Gorgons, I really wish I had my old computer because I had 20 pages or so called "The Daughters of Stheno". Now I want to redo it!
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Oct 5, 2019 00:32
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Deviant wraps up one of the larger untapped fictional pools. God's own prototypes, the weirdos and misfits of the occult world that conform to no particular standard, probably hunted by someone [Often the group that made them], whose powers are whatever the plot needs them to be. Beyond that......urgh, the truly inhuman? Literally something not tied to this world at all, the absolute Outsider. Be it your Elder Dark or literal aliens or whatever, something that doesn't care about Earth or it's cosmology in any sense, but for some reason has been bumped up against it.
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Oct 5, 2019 00:53
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in fairness looking back at what I typed a Gorgon would be an extremely natural fit for a Changeling character that said just because it'd be redundant in the nWoD doesn't mean it can't be interesting in other ways, so if you find that document Inzombniac, I'd love to see it / hear about it
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Oct 5, 2019 00:57
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Omnicrom posted:Just another way to point out that it sucks that Beast is garbage peddled by an abusive bastard because it's bizarrely fascinating when it isn't being irredeemably hideous. A Beast's Poochie aura also applies to the drat game as a whole. I guess I'm a demonic exception, because I'm not fascinated with Beast in any respect other than one is fascinated by a trainwreck. The only good ideas in there, not counting tangential stuff in Tooth & Nail, are Lair giving you a personal dungeon to assume your true boss form in, Nightmares having little pithy second-person dream narration instead of conventional description, and Sleeping Beauty being unintentionally sympathetic and righteous. Beasts aren't even satisfying as pitch black villains to avenge yourself on.
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As someone who has never touched this system but is very much enjoying reading through the Horror Recognition Guide, where should I go from here? I think I like the idea of being part of a group of people in over their heads fighting monsters they barely understand, so should I start reading through the Hunter stuff?
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:in fairness looking back at what I typed a Gorgon would be an extremely natural fit for a Changeling character haha, I thought about posting pretty much exactly that, but it seemed kind of 'well, actually', so I kept mum. I suppose it kind of depends on how you view the True Fae, a lot of people kind of think of them as just being cosmic losers, but I have a couple I've flavored as at least having a credible claim on actually being the, well, Beings, that were thought of as specific deities by humanity in the ancient past.
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EimiYoshikawa posted:haha, I thought about posting pretty much exactly that, but it seemed kind of 'well, actually', so I kept mum. it can be both. my understanding of the mythos is that the Greek gods don't rule because they're just, they rule because that's just the way it is. they're vain, insecure, and Zeus in particular is destined to be overthrown by one of his illegitimate offspring. combine that with the way they act like a bunch of wealthy, super-powered rapists and warmongers it's easy to see how you could tell a story about how power and influence don't make you proof against being a loser
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:it can be both. my understanding of the mythos is that the Greek gods don't rule because they're just, they rule because that's just the way it is. they're vain, insecure, and Zeus in particular is destined to be overthrown by one of his illegitimate offspring. Oh, of course, I guess I just meant 'losers that don't matter to anyone except changelings'. I mean, you can be a total loser and still be a powerful person (and 'person' is such a wide-rangingly applicable term in a setting with almost totally alien sapient intelligences) that affects the lives of many other people. The Greek Gods in particular were an extremely petty bunch of assholes, who, indeed, ruled because might made right, and even the Greeks at the time acknowledged they were, indeed, a bunch of assholes, but...they're still The Gods. Infallibility and the notion of perfect morality in a deity is far from a Universal concept throughout human history, after all. I'd say The Olympians (and Hades too) would certainly fit into a 'actually True Fae, or rather some True Fae that were actually The Olympians' concept, in any case, given both their pettiness and their constantly playing with mortal lives to amuse themselves/use them as proxies in conflicts against their peers/etc in various ways. Aoi fucked around with this message at 01:47 on Oct 5, 2019 |
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Dave Brookshaw posted:Speaking as someone who literally just announced his retirement as Mage Developer ten minutes ago... Thanks for what you've done. You got me into Awakening and CoD in general.
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Dave B., you did a fantastic job helming Mage and steering it smoothly through a turbulent edition transition. Mage is either tied with or beats Vampire for preexisting CofD gameline best served by its second edition redesign.
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Gonna miss your work, Dave B, Mage 2e is my favourite game of all time and so much of that is down to you. Can't wait to hear all about what you're doing next, though, and I'm sure Meghan will do great things with Mage too.
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Dave B is the only reason I gave Mage a second look and I'm glad I did.
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Dave Brookshaw posted:Speaking as someone who literally just announced his retirement as Mage Developer ten minutes ago... Your design and your APs are the reason I gave Mage a second look and over the years, I've run it more than any other game. I'll miss your take on Awakening and I hope to see the next game you design. 
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Dave Brookshaw posted:Speaking as someone who literally just announced his retirement as Mage Developer ten minutes ago... I love what you've created enough to have extremely strong opinions about the remaining 1% that I would change.  Thank you, and good luck with whatever you go on to do in the future.
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Dave Brookshaw posted:Speaking as someone who literally just announced his retirement as Mage Developer ten minutes ago... Thanks for everything you've done on the line, and thank you for coming to our dead forum and posting here and sharing your insights.
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Dave Brookshaw posted:Speaking as someone who literally just announced his retirement as Mage Developer ten minutes ago... Your work, both on the books and in posts on this forum, is what made me feel like I actually got what Mage was for the first time. You did an amazing job.
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Dave Brookshaw posted:Speaking as someone who literally just announced his retirement as Mage Developer ten minutes ago... You did some really amazing things with nMage 2e, and it's thanks to that work that I finally found myself liking nMage more than oMage in a very real way, and made me rank it as one of my absolute favorite RPGs.
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Mr. Humalong posted:As someone who has never touched this system but is very much enjoying reading through the Horror Recognition Guide, where should I go from here? I think I like the idea of being part of a group of people in over their heads fighting monsters they barely understand, so should I start reading through the Hunter stuff? Hunter is a good choice if you're enjoying the "What the gently caress is that, kill it with fire, OH gently caress IT'S NOT DYING RUN AWAY!" Stuff. You'll need the Blue World of Darkness core and Hunter to actually play it but what I've read of the Hunter core (and HRG which was fantastic) it definitely has a good balance of "We can do this" and "We're probably gonna die but we're taking them out with us" And since 2e hunter isn't out yet, make sure you get the 1e World of Darkness blue book and not the Chronicles of Darkness book. Anyone with more experience with nWod/CoD can correct me if I missed anything. It looks like I've got potentially two V5 games shaping up which I'm hype as gently caress about. I've gotta spend some time this weekend working out world stuff for myself because I'm tossing chunks of metaplot into the dumpster and remixing some CoD stuff into things. First time storytelling WoD and the sad teenager in me who never got to play these games as back then is bouncing off the walls.
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Mr. Humalong posted:As someone who has never touched this system but is very much enjoying reading through the Horror Recognition Guide, where should I go from here? I think I like the idea of being part of a group of people in over their heads fighting monsters they barely understand, so should I start reading through the Hunter stuff? Hunter is one of the most even gamelines in terms of writing quality and gameability. It's versatile, accessible to players unfamiliar with the setting, and friendly to being tailored to whatever kind of game you want to run, if a little fiddly at times. It's a very strong starting choice. There are two rules editions of the Chronicles of Darkness (and to further confuse things, the name changed shortly into the edition change, so first edition materials will actually say World of Darkness). First edition nWoD/CofD gamebooks require a central World of Darkness Rulebook in addition to whatever gameline corebook you're using, so to play first edition Hunter, you will need the World of Darkness Rulebook and the Hunter: the Vigil book. Options to play Hunter using the second edition ruleset are unfortunately kind of convoluted currently, though a Second Edition of Hunter: the Vigil is under development. There is a supplement called Mortal Remains which, in addition to a little travelogue of secondary CofD gameline monsters viewed from the perspective of hunters, contains an appendix to hot-patch Hunter rules for 2e. You would then still need either the free God-Machine Rules Update (paired with the World of Darkness Rulebook) or any other Second Edition gameline corebook (except Demon, why is it all so inconsistent) to provide the core ruleset of a 2e game. As noted above, 2e CofD gamebooks (except Demon) contain all the rules necessary to run the game in the titled corebook, rather than requiring a second rulebook. There is a Chronicles of Darkness Rulebook available for second edition, but it's purely optional and just provides expanded systems, extra Merits, and stuff to run games about less hunty mortals encountering the supernatural: think Twin Peaks to Hunter's Supernatural, say. So if you find yourself interested in any of the other gamelines that have been updated to second edition, those are one-book investments.
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Mr. Humalong posted:As someone who has never touched this system but is very much enjoying reading through the Horror Recognition Guide, where should I go from here? I think I like the idea of being part of a group of people in over their heads fighting monsters they barely understand, so should I start reading through the Hunter stuff? Changeling: the Lost is a very, very good game, and its 1e corebook is one of the best books White Wolf or Onyx Path ever put out. While, yes, it does have some heavy themes at its heart, I would advise any new person interested in the various *od: the * games to check it out. Hunter is also a very good game, of course, but I just had to get that out there.
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joylessdivision posted:Hunter is a good choice if you're enjoying the "What the gently caress is that, kill it with fire, OH gently caress IT'S NOT DYING RUN AWAY!" Stuff. You can use the ChroD blue book if you have Mortal Remains handy because it has edition updates. Whether you'll want to depends on how you feel about ChroD vs. NWoD in general, of course, but it's an option anyhow.
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Mr. Humalong posted:As someone who has never touched this system but is very much enjoying reading through the Horror Recognition Guide, where should I go from here? I think I like the idea of being part of a group of people in over their heads fighting monsters they barely understand, so should I start reading through the Hunter stuff? I think one of the best parts of the entire WoD, old and new, is that the feeling of being over your head and fighting monsters you barely understand is evoked in pretty much every splat regardless of how powerful they are. So yeah, the above Hunter advice is on point, but if you wanted to see how scared shitless the monsters are (and the monsters are always, always, fundamentally people) there are options. But I'd especially shout out nDemon and nChangling. nDemon is a bit different since you're a person but you were never a human, but playing a half-demon or a stigmatic (a mortal clued into demon poo poo) gets you there and the God-Machine and it's minions are incredible monsters you can barely understand. It's tone is a lot more "waging a cold war against" than outright fighting, but it's still a fight. nChangeling is cool because even having read all the deep storyteller lore about what True Fae (the main antagonists) are and how they work there's still something ineffable and impossible to understand about them -- and any individual True Fae is going to be a lot weirder than the general description of their uh, species?
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:Some day when I have time I want to write a ChroD fan splat that leans heavily on the astral / oneiros / temenos stuff, because it's one of the most interesting parts of the cosmology, but the only splats that really have easy access to it are Mages, Changelings, and Beasts; it's not a focus in Mage (and of relatively little interest to non-Mastigoi anyways except insofar as it's between us and the Supernal), crammed into too little word count in Changeling, and Beast is garbage. People only ever see Shadow People in moments of sleep paralysis; perhaps they're eating our dreams?
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Octavo posted:I think it's intended to model character concepts like those mutants who lived in the sewer in x-men. While most of the x-men were sexy and had powers they could toggle on and off, the sewer mutants (can't remember their name) tended to have ugly manifested scars with powers they couldn't turn off. Morlocks Claremont was not overly original
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