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nachos
Jun 27, 2004

Wario Chalmers! WAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Payndz posted:

Best way to think of it is that the US and UK are currently locked in a "hold my beer" to the death of who can corrupt and wreck their democratic institutions as fast as possible in the most stupid way possible. Trump wants to speedrun Nixon? Okay, Johnson will speedrun Trump!

Conservative parties everywhere have brain worms and their voters only vote harder

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skylined!
Apr 6, 2012

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

Spacebump posted:

This impeachment/Ukraine situation can also be used to highlight George W Bush's lack of leadership. Why is he not publicly urging GOP Senators to do the right thing?

He left office with like 32% approval. He'll be irrelevant outside of state funeral and ceremony poo poo until he dies.

Prester Jane
Nov 4, 2008

by Hand Knit

SchrodingersCat posted:

I binge read the Little House books, and the shift in tone between Those Happy Gold Years and The First Four Years is pretty drat stark. From what I understand, Rose Wilder pushed her to write and publish and either edited out or convinced Ingalls Wilder to take all of the bad parts out, such as her stillborn brother. The First Four Years was the first book not handled like this and it's basically an unending string of misery. Almanzo Wilder at least had a working knowledge of farming and still failed hard.
The original books were written by Laura but their content was heavily edited by Rose, at the time Rose was a internationally known author and her mother was an unknown hillbilly working on a dying Farm. The books were written very specifically to piggyback on the cowboy/pioneer mythos in order to sell books. Laura was kind of in the right place at the right time with a story that was just authentic enough to appeal to the masses, and Little House in the Big Woods sold like hotcakes.

The later books were very heavily influenced/exited by Rose Wilder (Laura's health as failing), which is why they start to be full of so much patriotic flag-waving nonsense. (IIRC the final book opens with the town gathered at a July 4th display, waving flags and talking about how awesome it is to live in the land of the free.) Rose Wilder was basically a proto libertarian and an outspoken opponent of all forms of government assistance and / or socialism, and the later books reflect Rose Wilder taking command of the writing of her ailing mother. Rose believe very heavily in the cowboy myth us and wrote a couple of her own (extremely crappy) attempts at what is basically a Pioneer-themed version of Atlas Shrugged. However Rose's stories lacked any authenticity and as such her literary attempts to profit off the pioneer mythos fell flat on their face, and she was forced to rely on her mother's material.

Finally, the land in that area is just not capable of sustaining that kind of farming, because the rainfall is too inconsistent. If I recall correctly the exact area they were at had an annual rainfall average somewhere between 18inches to 90 inches- anywhere within that range was perfectly normal.


Edit: did I mention that Rose Wilder was a pedophile? Cuz it really needs to be emphasized that Rose Wilder was a pedophile who groomed a number of victims and kept trying to get her (favorite) victims elected into political office once they came of age.

Prester Jane fucked around with this message at 01:29 on Oct 6, 2019

Armack
Jan 27, 2006

skylined! posted:

He left office with like 32% approval. He'll be irrelevant outside of state funeral and ceremony poo poo until he dies.

As of last year, George W. Bush enjoyed a 61% approval rating. A majority of Democrats view him favorably as well. :gonk:
Source.

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004




Payndz posted:

Best way to think of it is that the US and UK are currently locked in a "hold my beer" to the death of who can corrupt and wreck their democratic institutions as fast as possible in the most stupid way possible. Trump wants to speedrun Nixon? Okay, Johnson will speedrun Trump!

Now imagine being Canadian and having the opportunity to see exactly what not to do for the last 3 years, and decide that in a few weeks we totally need to do what the US/UK are doing.

:smithicide:

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
Why of all people throw Rick Perry under the bus?

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


Armack posted:

As of last year, George W. Bush enjoyed a 61% approval rating. A majority of Democrats view him favorably as well. :gonk:
Source.

Distance makes the heart grow fonder. It helps that he's done almost nothing publicly since leaving office (except bad paintings).

Aztec Galactus
Sep 12, 2002

Armack posted:

As of last year, George W. Bush enjoyed a 61% approval rating. A majority of Democrats view him favorably as well. :gonk:
Source.

Its almost like after everyone realizes what a horrible monster you are, the best thing to do is shut up. Imagine if Bush were tweeting about WMDs every.loving.day.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Why of all people throw Rick Perry under the bus?

He's signaled he's going to cooperate, he's leaving anyway, he's politically irrelevant, he's not Mulvaney, Pompeo or Mnuchin.

Also Jarvanka is handling the impeachment war room so this might be their brainchild.

Or maybe they have a wheel they spin who knows!

Bar Ran Dun
Jan 22, 2006




Prester Jane posted:

The trick to understanding the mindset of the early settlers is to recognize that they were basically the Bitcoin miners of their day- and that goes doubly so for Laura Ingalls Wilders' (selfish, lovely) parents. Her father and mother had both been raised in the city and had no practical agricultural experience- but at the time the government was encouraging people to settle the land Westward and the railroads were selling what amounted to farm starter kits. The average settler moving out was like Laura Ingalls Wilder's family, no practical agricultural experience, no frontier experience- they had purchased the equivalent of an Ikea kit to start their own 5-acre rural Farm and set off for the wilderness.

In the case of Laura Ingalls Wilder's family, there is not a single year of their lives where they ever worked on a succesful Farm. Despite the farm being depicted as successful and abundant in the television series, in reality the family was constantly being saved with food gifts from their and they were always working odd jobs in town to make extra money to support the farm.( in point of fact it was desperation for money to keep the farm afloat that prompted Laura Ingalls Wilder to write her young adult novels) Her family was constantly moving in and out of the city as the various Farms they worked inevitably failed, and the one fun they had that was going kind of well they got driven off of because their father had stolen the land from natives in such a brazen manner that even the local Army fort wouldn't support his claim. ( also complicated by her father's refusal to pay the various taxes he owed to the US government)

All of this gets even more bizarre if you dive into the life of the person who was instrumental in getting Laura Ingalls Wilder's published- her daughter. Her daughter was a blatant pedophile who repeatedly groomed her victims and tried to get them elected into political office. (Her daughter's political beliefs would also, not coincidentally, be right in line with the modern libertarian ethos.)

When you watch Little House on the Prairie keep in mind that the reason it's only white people walking around is because only 10 years earlier the US Government had genocided the native population in the area. Also, the land they were on was incapable of supporting English-style farming (rainfall is too inconsistent) and all those failed/abandoned Farms were a major cause of the Dust Bowl.

This is from a ways back, but Prester is underselling it. Wilders daughter was in Ayn Rand's circle, way up at the top too. The money from the book and movies was foundational to large parts of the beginnings of the libertarian movement.

thin blue whine
Feb 21, 2004
PLEASE SEE POLICY


Soiled Meat
Hahaha they spent the last day or so getting everyone in line with "It's Trump's duty to root out corruption and to strong arm countries into investigating people the President wants!" Now this dumbass is claiming Rick Perry of all people bullied the strong, principled President into making the call.

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Why of all people throw Rick Perry under the bus?

He probably mistook Rick Perry for Mitt Romney. God knows I've done it and my brain isn't full of holes.

lurker2006
Jul 30, 2019

FizFashizzle posted:

I mean that's not real, but I hope the phrase "venting your spleen" is.

Also if Trump sees that he'll definitely respond.

Lol that some random guy with a euro accent and vibrantly colored glasses can convince people that he's an actual head of state, hopefully Trump falls for it.

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen

FizFashizzle posted:

Yeah it's no coincidence this is coming out after Perry announced he'd cooperate with the House investigation.

That and they want to pin it on the guy on his way out the door.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







BigBallChunkyTime posted:

That and they want to pin it on the guy on his way out the door.

"on the way out the door" describes basically anyone not named Steve or Mick at this point.

Amazing Zimmo
Jan 27, 2006

That's quite a load you got in them diapers
https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1180408582761783298

https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1180405915071238144

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
ARRESTING PEOPLE FOR CRIMES IS VIOLATING THEIR RIGHTS - old man screams at sidewalk

RuanGacho
Jun 20, 2002

"You're gunna break it!"


What exactly does he thinks happens if it comes to this I wonder.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Rashida Tlaib loving rules

nachos
Jun 27, 2004

Wario Chalmers! WAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Hmm yes “unauthorized letter”

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY
ARREST ME!- America's Mayor, Rudy Guiliani

Dammerung
Oct 17, 2008

"Dang, that's hot."



It's good for a branch of the government to explore how to utilize the powers it has, yes.

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

Nap Ghost

Bottom Liner posted:

ARRESTING PEOPLE FOR CRIMES IS VIOLATING THEIR RIGHTS -says prominent, for some reason, lawyer

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>
Apparently the DPD is refusing to confirm the identity, but yeah looks like the key witness who testified that Guyger didn't shout any of the normal commands you'd expect to hear from a cop dealing with a suspect was indeed murdered.

https://twitter.com/TMZ/status/1180616791837405184?s=20

OutOfPrint
Apr 9, 2009

Fun Shoe

I'm just caught up, but holy poo poo, being arrested is a violation of civil rights?

Be right back, folks, I'm gonna do some CRIMES!

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


the broken windows mayor whining about violating civil rights hahahahah

duodenum
Sep 18, 2005

edit: it was old

Otteration
Jan 4, 2014

I CAN'T SAY PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP'S NAME BECAUSE HE'S LIKE THAT GUY FROM HARRY POTTER AND I'M AFRAID I'LL SUMMON HIM. DONALD JOHN TRUMP. YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT.
OUR 47TH PRESIDENT AFTER THE ONE WHO SHOWERS WITH HIS DAUGHTER DIES
Grimey Drawer

eke out posted:

i get that it's a move to try to blame perry it doesn't even really make sense because it doesn't actually blame him or relate to the substance of the convo

like if the call was about some energy issue (he says something about LNG), why is it never, ever mentioned in the conversation? and how does that pretext in any way help him?

Try to name a thing that this administration has done that made sense since the orange fecal smear released the Ukraine phone call outline (see also, before).

Rabble posted:

Rick Perry is a good ol boy, I cannot wait to see how this ends for Trump.

Throw out a drag-line in and pull in Perry too. Not a problem.

Otteration
Jan 4, 2014

I CAN'T SAY PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP'S NAME BECAUSE HE'S LIKE THAT GUY FROM HARRY POTTER AND I'M AFRAID I'LL SUMMON HIM. DONALD JOHN TRUMP. YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT.
OUR 47TH PRESIDENT AFTER THE ONE WHO SHOWERS WITH HIS DAUGHTER DIES
Grimey Drawer

Tlaib's awesome, but gonna wait for something beyond a RudyGiuliani twit and fox reference for clarity. :)

Helith
Nov 5, 2009

Basket of Adorables


FYI: Take anything the British press say about Jeremy Corbyn with a huge pinch of salt. They are part of the Establishment that fear the kind of policies that Corbyn wants to bring to the UK. At the recent conference he pledged full on socialism pretty much.
The Establishment are scared of him and try to smear him at every turn.
The centrist Blairites in his own party are scared of him and try to smear him at every turn.
The Conservatives have always run smears and fear mongering on Labour, it's what they do.
He's not perfect but he's not what the press say he is either.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

WRT both Laure Engels Wilder and Climate Change the settlers on the American Great Plains have been victims of junk science cooked up to benefit industry from day 1. The aridity of the Great Plains was a known problem to basically anyone with an education, but railroads published junk science that claimed that plowing and settling land caused rain. This was sort of seen as a quasi-scientific, quasi-divine phenomenon that rewarded good Christian cultivation of the land. This did not save anyone from the droughts but it did give them the psychological cover to furiously deny their farming practices had anything to do with their failed farms.

Modern oil companies and paid shucksters telling the farmers on the Great Plains that fracking quakes and climate change and aquifer depletion are liberal conspiracies are not new, they are the continuation of a proud tradition of lying to the dumbass American farmer. After all, who gets the land when the farms fail? It was the banks and the railroads, now its fracking companies, and increasingly, private water capitalists. And of course agribusiness, the biggest buyer of distressed farms, existed all the way back in the Old West and is still around.

pacerhimself
Dec 30, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

Otteration posted:

Tlaib's awesome, but gonna wait for something beyond a RudyGiuliani twit and fox reference for clarity. :)

You can be pretty certain she was talking about people ignoring subpoenas. Yes, arresting them is the lawful course of action in that scenario.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


Prester Jane posted:

The original books were written by Laura but their content was heavily edited by Rose, at the time Rose was a internationally known author and her mother was an unknown hillbilly working on a dying Farm. The books were written very specifically to piggyback on the cowboy/pioneer mythos in order to sell books. Laura was kind of in the right place at the right time with a story that was just off then took enough to appeal to the masses, and Little House in the Big Woods sold like hotcakes.

The later books were very heavily influenced/exited by Rose Wilder (Laura's health as failing), which is why they start to be full of so much patriotic flag-waving nonsense. (IIRC the final book opens with the town gathered at a July 4th display, waving flags and talking about how awesome it is to live in the land of the free.) Rose Wilder was basically a proto libertarian and an outspoken opponent of all forms of government assistance and / or socialism, and the later books reflect Rose Wilder taking command of the writing of her ailing mother. Rose believe very heavily in the cowboy myth us and wrote a couple of her own (extremely crappy) attempts at what is basically a Pioneer-themed version of Atlas Shrugged. However Rose's stories lacked any authenticity and as such her literary attempts to profit off the pioneer mythos fell flat on their face, and she was forced to rely on her mother's material.

Finally, the land in that area is just not capable of sustaining that kind of farming, because the rainfall is too inconsistent. If I recall correctly the exact area they were at had an annual rainfall average somewhere between 18inches to 90 inches- anywhere within that range was perfectly normal.


Edit: did I mention that Rose Wilder was a pedophile? Cuz it really needs to be emphasized that Rose Wilder was a pedophile who groomed a number of victims and kept trying to get her (favorite) victims elected into political office once they came of age.

Do you have any links to any articles on this? Google is giving me nothing.

Bar Ran Dun
Jan 22, 2006




Space Cadet Omoly posted:

Do you have any links to any articles on this? Google is giving me nothing.

Praire Fires is a book on parts of it.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead
coulda sworn there was a small book / large effortpost i read about it the other month

wait no, it was more of a condensed Let's Read

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

Do you have any links to any articles on this? Google is giving me nothing.

this is an incredibly long twitter thread of someone reading through a biography of LIW's life but it's fascinating and deals with a lot of the stuff in that post

https://twitter.com/AnaMardoll/status/934583893709197312

empty whippet box
Jun 9, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Herstory Begins Now posted:

Apparently the DPD is refusing to confirm the identity, but yeah looks like the key witness who testified that Guyger didn't shout any of the normal commands you'd expect to hear from a cop dealing with a suspect was indeed murdered.

https://twitter.com/TMZ/status/1180616791837405184?s=20

Don't worry, Dallas PD is investigating. Soon we'll probably see some helpful news stories about how he had 0.01 grams of marijuana in his house, and was therefore a gang member who got killed by other gang members(who are obviously also black, and not cops). Nothing to see here.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
it's really insane he's trying to shift this all to Rick, Rick's actually liked in Texas and has always been seen as a buffoon and general right wing freak but never some super corrupt guy. My right wing Texan mom literally is all caps texting me about how insane this is.

Also it doesn't even...help...Rick 'making' him make the call (lol) doesn't even account for why he...shook down Ukraine...

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Strange Poon posted:

Hahaha they spent the last day or so getting everyone in line with "It's Trump's duty to root out corruption and to strong arm countries into investigating people the President wants!" Now this dumbass is claiming Rick Perry of all people bullied the strong, principled President into making the call.


He probably mistook Rick Perry for Mitt Romney. God knows I've done it and my brain isn't full of holes.

Don’t forget he is going after Romney super hard as well.

Kale
May 14, 2010

I'm just so tired of the whiniest administration in the history of Western Civilization. The one satirical reaction to Trump's joint press conference whine-fest referring to him sarcastically as the "most put upon person" kind of nailed how I see him at the end of the day. The big three Donald, Rudy and Lindsey.....just so loving soft man. We've been listening to this guy just constantly air his grievances and whine about every person that dares criticize him every single day for nearly three years now. I never would have predicted he would be more bearable as a candidate in the long run.

So the question I will be pondering come 2020 is "How about it America, do you really want a whiny sadsack miserable gently caress as President for another 4 years?"

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Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

DC Murderverse posted:

this is an incredibly long twitter thread of someone reading through a biography of LIW's life but it's fascinating and deals with a lot of the stuff in that post

https://twitter.com/AnaMardoll/status/934583893709197312

I have hear that book is amazing, I bought it for my gf last Christmas, but never read it.

Kale posted:

I'm just so tired of the whiniest administration in the history of Western Civilization. The one satirical reaction to Trump's joint press conference whine-fest referring to him sarcastically as the "most put upon person" kind of nailed how I see him at the end of the day. The big three Donald, Rudy and Lindsey.....just so loving soft man. We've been listening to this guy just constantly air his grievances and whine about every person that dares criticize him every single day for nearly three years now. I never would have predicted he would be more bearable as a candidate in the long run.

So the question I will be pondering come 2020 is "How about it America, do you really want a whiny sadsack miserable gently caress as President for another 4 years?"


Projection is a bitch.

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