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Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



SocketWrench posted:

Eh, I seriously doubt he's a billionaire. I'd wager he barely passes as a serious millionaire if you liquidate all his assets and ignore his debts

He's a billionaire if you look at the absolute value of his wealth: When his casino went under he claimed such a huge loss that he literally hasn't paid taxes since due to the IRS's debt forgiveness rules. As in: his one claim was something like a full third of the business losses claimed that year and the value was big enough the program filling out the form didn't have enough significant digits so someone had to go and get a typewriter to plug in the last two zeroes on the form.

So yes, he's very much a negative billionaire if you're allowed to include his debt.

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Charliegrs
Aug 10, 2009
Has anyone mentioned in this thread that one of main witnesses in the Amber Guyger trial was shot dead yesterday? I remember seeing this guy's testimony in the trial. At one point he broke down crying. There's no way in hell the Dallas PD aren't behind this murder, probably taking revenge for this guy helping put away one of their own. gently caress Dallas PD. gently caress the blue lives matter crowd.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/05/us/botham-jean-neighbor-killed/index.html

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

Alkydere posted:

The two times I've been prescribed even relatively mild opiates (once for getting all my wisdom teeth out, once for shattering my ankle into powder) I basically went "Oh gently caress these are good...too good" and they scared the poo poo out me to the point I didn't refill my prescription.

I had my cornea sliced off and the eye doctor prescribed me liquid oxycodone while it healed since the contact lens bandage was insanely painful. But he accidentally wrote down 500ml instead of 50ml so now I have a gigantic bottle of liquid oxycodone I wound up using almost none of because yeah it's terrifyingly addictive and also that's obviously way, way too much for a week's recovery

also the pharmacy didn't actually stop and go "this is weird that we're giving you a huge bottle of oxycodone", which is also concerning, I thought it was a lot because it was super diluted but nooooope, he just hosed up the prescription and wrote one too many zeroes

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.
I got some to use predominantly as a sleep aid for a wickedly painful infection, one time I took it during the day because I just could not focus through the pain and half an hour I was like, hooooly poo poo what the hell.

That dose was 5mg, which I understand is basically nothing when it comes to oxycodone.

Zisky
May 6, 2003

PM me and I will show you my tits

Charliegrs posted:

Has anyone mentioned in this thread that one of main witnesses in the Amber Guyger trial was shot dead yesterday? I remember seeing this guy's testimony in the trial. At one point he broke down crying. There's no way in hell the Dallas PD aren't behind this murder, probably taking revenge for this guy helping put away one of their own. gently caress Dallas PD. gently caress the blue lives matter crowd.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/05/us/botham-jean-neighbor-killed/index.html

Whether this was retaliation or not (and Occam's razor is fuzzy here but probably on the side of non-coincidence), gently caress blue lives matter and gently caress Amber Guyger.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Alkydere posted:

Yeah when I first had them with my wisdom teeth out I was all "I only used half the bottle...I'm gonna enjoy the gently caress out of these after hard days because they make me happy/go right to sleep at night" and would have totally re-upped the hydrocodine if I'd been prescribed more.

Second time was after I broke my ankle and had some weird experiences with other painkillers and anesthesia. The night I spent in the ER room they set my ankle so I'd gently caress it up less and put it in a plaster cast overnight because they had a bone setter there that night but the bone surgeon wasn't gonna show up until her normal shift in the morning. My leg swelled up so big in that cast I was literally in so much pain the morphine they gave me did nothing until they figured out the pain was from my leg trying to crack open the cast. One trashbag of ice over my cast and I was out like a light. The next morning I was put under anesthesia so they could slice open both sides of my shattered ankle at once (I broke it in 3 places simultaneously), and when I woke up I had the most hosed up reaction to the anesthesia: I woke up with my heart pounding in my chest, my adrenaline flowing and I was angry even as my head was fuzzy from the drugs. Like I legitimately would have tried to start a fistfight with some poor orderly if I hadn't also been too loving drugged to really do anything but lay there and drool for the next 20 minutes. By the time I was able to recover enough to think I realized that I hadn't been abducted by aliens or some shadow government project (not even joking: those were the paranoid thoughts going through my head) and Iwas just loco from whatever they knocked me out with. Still took a good half hour after they moved me from the recovery clinic to my room to calm myself enough to pass out again.

Between those weird reactions to morphine and the anesthesia I looked what I was feeling from the hydrocodine they gave me and it kinda freaked an older and wiser me out. After about a week I tried to manage the pain with ibuprophen except when it was really bad (i.e.: I banged my cast against something). To be honest, the hydrocodine tended to put me out and a lot of sleep was probably exactly what I needed the first couple of weeks, but there was that underlying "too good to be true" happy that made my skin crawl when it wore off and my head was clear.

FWIW that's a pretty common response to anaesthesia

stringless
Dec 28, 2005

keyboard ⌨️​ :clint: cowboy

Zenithe posted:

I got some to use predominantly as a sleep aid for a wickedly painful infection, one time I took it during the day because I just could not focus through the pain and half an hour I was like, hooooly poo poo what the hell.

That dose was 5mg, which I understand is basically nothing when it comes to oxycodone.

Got prescribed Percocet (acetominophen and 5mg oxycodone) for wisdom teeth removal and yeah, a half hour after the first one I limited myself to half doses.

Rent-A-Cop
Oct 15, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

I got a fentanyl/versed combo in an IV once that took me from freaking the gently caress out to grooooovy in about five seconds flat.

I'm glad I don't have access to that because goddamn it was nice.

Kenlon
Jun 27, 2003

Digitus Impudicus
Heh. I got given Fentanyl as part of surgery prep for my c4-c7 open door laminoplasty. (Basically, they were going in to saw open my vertebrae with a very expensive dremel. Good times.)

I didn't even feel it. The anathesiologist told me, "Okay, tell me when you start feeling sleepy and relaxed," and minutes later I'm not feeling anything at all. (Turns out that whatever they were using for general anasthesia is *really* painful if you aren't drugged up first. I felt like I was literally on fire for the time before I lost consciousness.)

My brain gives no fucks about opiates, and I feel weirdly proud of that.

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

Les Ricains tuent et moi je mue
Mao Mao
Les fous sont rois et moi je bois
Mao Mao
Les bombes tonnent et moi je sonne
Mao Mao
Les bebes fuient et moi je fuis
Mao Mao


LeeMajors posted:


For sure--but not at the expense of, you know, the basics.

yeah i don't think the reasons the basics aren't cheap if not free are because of that

ManBoyChef
Aug 1, 2019

Deadbeat Dad



Herstory Begins Now posted:

Apparently the DPD is refusing to confirm the identity, but yeah looks like the key witness who testified that Guyger didn't shout any of the normal commands you'd expect to hear from a cop dealing with a suspect was indeed murdered.

https://twitter.com/TMZ/status/1180616791837405184?s=20

This makes me really mad. A dude that wears a DBZ shirt to court is probably a pretty righteous dude. I bet he would be a cool guy to shoot the poo poo with.

This wouldn't be the first time that cops have killed someone to silence them. Just look up the gun trace task force in Baltimore.

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



Barry Foster posted:

FWIW that's a pretty common response to anaesthesia

It freaked me out and I've had general anesthesia before and sense, never had that reaction. I'm normally a zen and level headed guy so suddenly waking up, mind confused and drugged while the adrenaline pumps and not knowing where I am (and admittedly for a while who I am) and thinking I've been kidnapped for some B-rated thriller plot is not a state of mind I enjoy being in.

ManBoyChef
Aug 1, 2019

Deadbeat Dad



Rabble posted:

Gabapentin is easy to get, relative to other drugs that can get you high, and has very few long term side effects.

It’s basically alcohol in pill form. The best way I can describe long term use of gaba is to say it’s like constantly being inebriated. You’re kinda dumb, forgetful, and mistake-prone...but you feel really good about it.

i used to take Gabapentin when I couldn't get heroin to make the withdrawal not so crippling.

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 5 days!)

Waking up in recovery after jaw surgery where they also resected my inferior turbinates, they had to remove the two tubes in my nostrils - put there as my jaw was now held firmly closed by elastic bands - one tube going to my stomach to suction any blood and the other providing oxygen. The nasogastric tube was okay, but once they pulled the oxygen tube, the blood and what-have-you in my nasal cavity clogged fully and I was fully aware that I could not breathe. I clamped down on my instant terror and tried to enunciate through a wired-shur jaw "I can't breathe" which got an instant response "just one second and we'll suction your nose - here we go - okay you can breathe now".

The icy cold knowledge you are unable to breathe and require someone else to fix it really stamps itself on your memories, I must say.

CubanMissile
Apr 22, 2003

Of Hulks and Spider-Men

FFT posted:

Got prescribed Percocet (acetominophen and 5mg oxycodone) for wisdom teeth removal and yeah, a half hour after the first one I limited myself to half doses.

I got prescribed Percocet for my kidney stones, took one, and ended up in in the fetal position on my couch for six hours with a stomach ache that was far worse than the pain from my stones. The annoying thing was it had no other effect on me other than that.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Alkydere posted:

It freaked me out and I've had general anesthesia before and sense, never had that reaction. I'm normally a zen and level headed guy so suddenly waking up, mind confused and drugged while the adrenaline pumps and not knowing where I am (and admittedly for a while who I am) and thinking I've been kidnapped for some B-rated thriller plot is not a state of mind I enjoy being in.

Brain meats are weird! Waking up from anaesthesia is essentially 'you're going to act like a drunk - but which kind?!'

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.
It could be retaliation from a cop or coo sympathizer but I doubt it was to silence him, he'd already said all the bits that did damage

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



GlyphGryph posted:

It could be retaliation from a cop or coo sympathizer but I doubt it was to silence him, he'd already said all the bits that did damage

I'd be more willing to bet "cop sympathizer" than straight up cop. Cops have other ways to make you miserable, a non-person and/or dead.

Then again I might just be hopeful because cops are less likely to cover for a crazy-rear end civilian killing this guy even for pro-cop reasons than they are to cover for another racist rear end cop.

Edit:
Oh loving absolutely
\/\/\/\/

Alkydere fucked around with this message at 12:35 on Oct 6, 2019

stringless
Dec 28, 2005

keyboard ⌨️​ :clint: cowboy

95% whoever did it has a Punisher skull and/or blue line flag bumper sticker

Ice Phisherman
Apr 12, 2007

Swimming upstream
into the sunset



The guy is chilling in the afterlife, training with King Kai right now and I will accept no other explanation.

TLM3101
Sep 8, 2010



So, since we're apparently sharing stories about weird reactions to drugs and/or anesthesia...

I had my last two wisdom-teeth out about... six years ago now, and it was a bitch. The dentist had to cut off a bit of the back molar adjacent to the tooth to even have a hope in hell of pulling it out all the way, and nicked a bit of my gums in the process ( can't blame him, my back molars are fairly low to the gums ), so I know what I'd taste like when cooked now... Fun times. Anyway, the anesthesia is amazing. I can't feel a thing, even with my skull creaking like a wooden shack in a storm as they're yanking the fuckers out. Everything's fine, they sew me up, they hand me painkillers, stuff my mouth with cotton and send me home.

The trouble starts when the anesthesia begins to wear off. As sensation begins to creep back into my jaw, it hurts, but I also start feeling cold. Very cold. Shivering-to-the-point-where-I-can-barely-function cold. I put one eiderdown under me and two on top, a thick wool blanket on top of *that*, curl into a ball and I'm absolutely *freezing* and shuddering like I've just been dipped in ice. And I'm absolutely terrified that this is some insane allergic reaction... but I can breathe just fine and I'm not feeling anything wrong other than my brain apparently being convinced that I'm freezing to death.

And then the anesthesia finally wears off and it's like flipping a switch. Shivers stop, the feeling of cold disappears *immediately*. And is instantly replaced by the sensation of being wrapped up in wool and enough eiderdown to comfortably see several flocks of ducks through an arctic winter. It's never happened before or since, either.

funeral home DJ
Apr 21, 2003


Pillbug
If we were a righteous and decent country, we’d have a dedicated chunk of the FBI or some alphabet agency that would look at murders, assassinations and abuses done by police or police sympathizers. They would have the authority and moral clarity to immediately shut down the precinct, fire every cop from top to bottom (as well as permanently barring them from ever working as a public servant in any capacity for life) and drag the accused to a federal court in a big city instead of their local corrupt Ku-Klux-Kourt.

But noooooo... we have to loving suck at everything here in the US. Whee. :smith:

Jarmak
Jan 24, 2005

LeeMajors posted:

I mean, insulin is cheap and available elsewhere else but people are dying in the US from rationing. Meanwhile Big Pharma cranks out dick pills, autoimmune suppressants and antidepressants like there is no tomorrow.


See also: Epinephrine shortages at your local 911 system! And saline*!

*yes, normal loving saline

Penicillin is cheap

Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus

The exotics required to kill the stuff that's become resistant because we've been handing out the cheap stuff in cartons is very very expensive.

OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013

Ripoff posted:

If we were a righteous and decent country, we’d have a dedicated chunk of the FBI or some alphabet agency that would look at murders, assassinations and abuses done by police or police sympathizers. They would have the authority and moral clarity to immediately shut down the precinct, fire every cop from top to bottom (as well as permanently barring them from ever working as a public servant in any capacity for life) and drag the accused to a federal court in a big city instead of their local corrupt Ku-Klux-Kourt.

But noooooo... we have to loving suck at everything here in the US. Whee. :smith:

I thought some states do have organizations dedicated to investigating police forces, and that they’re effective. At least someone brought that up in an earlier USPOL thread.

Gamerofthegame
Oct 28, 2010

Could at least flip one or two, maybe.
surely, but the police force is squarely in the STATES RIGHTS thing despite how ubiquitous it is, so it's a real toss up based on arbitrary borders

ewiley
Jul 9, 2003

More trash for the trash fire
US drug policy: can't have people feeling good, otherwise they wouldn't drink alcohol.

US medical policy: can't have people get too healthy otherwise Thiel wouldn't be able got get his child blood of immortality cheaply.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/jasonscampbell/status/1180660021421625353?s=21

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010
https://twitter.com/gtconway3d/status/1180806239506325504

JehovahsWetness
Dec 9, 2005

bang that shit retarded
I think this is the most official 2nd whistleblower thing I've seen yet.

https://twitter.com/ThisWeekABC/status/1180821531871649792

TyroneGoldstein
Mar 30, 2005

I'm still sort of surprised just how hosed up Ohio is.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

JehovahsWetness posted:

I think this is the most official 2nd whistleblower thing I've seen yet.

https://twitter.com/ThisWeekABC/status/1180821531871649792

https://twitter.com/AndrewBakaj/status/1180826504952983553

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010
:lol:

https://twitter.com/ericswalwell/status/1180647413100548096

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1180795081550266369

Charlz Guybon fucked around with this message at 14:00 on Oct 6, 2019

Jealous Cow
Apr 4, 2002

by Fluffdaddy

JehovahsWetness posted:

I think this is the most official 2nd whistleblower thing I've seen yet.

https://twitter.com/ThisWeekABC/status/1180821531871649792

:siren: A second whistleblower has hit the Trump :siren:

Drug chat:

I was given Vicodin once when I threw my back out. One dose made me cry for two days straight and slip into borderline-suicidal despair. I don’t do opioids after that, which has me worried for when my wisdom teeth have to come out.

Cthulhu Dreams
Dec 11, 2010

If I pretend to be Cthulhu no one will know I'm a baseball robot.

Jealous Cow posted:

:siren: A second whistleblower has hit the Trump :siren:

Drug chat:

I was given Vicodin once when I threw my back out. One dose made me cry for two days straight and slip into borderline-suicidal despair. I don’t do opioids after that, which has me worried for when my wisdom teeth have to come out.

Recommended treatment in the US is NSAID - they work too, opioids should only be given if the anti inflammatory doesn't work well enough.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Cthulhu Dreams posted:

Recommended treatment in the US is NSAID - they work too, opioids should only be given if the anti inflammatory doesn't work well enough.

Few recent papers showed that alternating ibuprofen and acetaminophen was basically exactly equivalent to Vicodin for post-surgical pain management. Doesn't keep you coming back for another taste tho

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010
Thinking on it, though it gave me a sensible chuckle, I think that Pelosi statement was ill thought out.

Donald did own a casino, but it went bankrupt, so clearly the House doesn't always win.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



Speaker of the house quoting memes, can we get to the season finale already

There Bias Two
Jan 13, 2009
I'm not a good person

Data Graham posted:

Speaker of the house quoting memes, can we get to the season finale already

Don't you know this is a soap opera? The season never ends and the stupid drama just keeps going.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

A second whistleblower has struck the Donald.

Vicodin knocked me out for a week after surgery. I did wild sh*t like lie in bed barely conscious for 16 hours a day. There's my sexy story of depravity.

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Sandtrout Catsuit
Feb 15, 2008

They were all over his body now. He could feel the pulse of his blood against the living membrane.
My med school literally taught us that people with genuine pain COULD NOT become addicted to opiates. Now that state is one of the top areas for opiate addiction hmm...

I was thoroughly disabused of that notion when I did a rotation with a suboxone provider. I saw a Nice (white) Suburban Mom who went from being prescribed percocet after a routine c-section to shooting heroin in 4 months. Took me a few more years to realize there are thousands out there just like her, and even more who don't have access to suboxone clinics staffed with sympathetic naive med students.

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