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Jose posted:its because metal is shite so has its own festivals Well I never
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Didn't Metallica headline glasto the other year?
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Oct 6, 2019 14:43
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Red Oktober posted:Tried for 30 mins on Thursday and today with a load of devices, browsers etc, no luck. I wish they’d just use the standard queue software that everyone else does. There are way less bus tickets than normal tickets. My friends all got the tickets they wanted today.
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Oct 6, 2019 14:47
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Last time I bought glasto tickets I saw a homes file edit on twitter that got you through the website instantly to buy tickets
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Oct 6, 2019 14:48
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Why is the UK's big "summer" music festival always scheduled for a time it is 100% guaranteed to be pissing it down, as opposed to, for example, May, when we reliably get some decent hot weather?
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Firos posted:There are way less bus tickets than normal tickets. My friends all got the tickets they wanted today. Girlfriend and I had no luck today either  even with the link to take you straight through.
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happyhippy posted:Would have thought Glasto would be too corporate for people in this chat to want to go to it. Glastonbury is one of the least corporate festivals in this country. They don't allow advertising in the festival, they don't have a corporate sponsor (e.g the Virgin Festival) and their major partner is WaterAid. The worst they have is mobile phone charging tents and areas run by EE (I think).
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Renaissance Robot posted:Why is the UK's big "summer" music festival always scheduled for a time it is 100% guaranteed to be pissing it down, as opposed to, for example, May, when we reliably get some decent hot weather? Summer solstice
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Aphex- posted:Didn't Metallica headline glasto the other year? 
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Tried in a group of 12, and not one of us got through. Honestly, would have been cool, but just all going to buy Greenman tickets instead; after the first hour of drinking, it'll make gently caress all difference anyway.
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Oct 6, 2019 14:55
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What an evil, disgusting, spiteful woman. Trans poster here and this sucks
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Oct 6, 2019 14:59
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I have to say festivals like Glastonbury just seem like disgustingly crowded shitholes that would induce a dozen panic attacks on me because of all the crowds before it even started Why would anyone willingly subject themselves to something like that I can't personally understand
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forkboy84 posted:I just watch the good acts on telly while quietly grumbling to myself at Glasto's continued bias against metal music because Michael Eavis thinks we're all violent psychopaths. The big jobby. Such an arsehole. I listen to metal almost exclusively and haven't killed in weeks
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Oct 6, 2019 15:00
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Pochoclo posted:I have to say festivals like Glastonbury just seem like disgustingly crowded shitholes that would induce a dozen panic attacks on me because of all the crowds before it even started also trying to get to sleep while someone in a tent 2 feet from yours is throwing up and/or loving at maximum volume
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Oct 6, 2019 15:20
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All music is bad except the music I personally listen to, which I will not disclose at this point
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Oct 6, 2019 15:23
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Renaissance Robot posted:Why is the UK's big "summer" music festival always scheduled for a time it is 100% guaranteed to be pissing it down, as opposed to, for example, May, when we reliably get some decent hot weather? Same reason we've invented at least two sports that can't be played when it's raining, because British people are irredeemably loving stupid.
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Oct 6, 2019 15:25
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Angepain posted:All music is bad except the music I personally listen to, which I will not disclose at this point 
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Renaissance Robot posted:Why is the UK's big "summer" music festival always scheduled for a time it is 100% guaranteed to be pissing it down, as opposed to, for example, May, when we reliably get some decent hot weather? The chance of rain exponentially increases according to how many Brits there are standing in a field. It's basic physics.
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Oct 6, 2019 15:39
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Paup blood DOES have a valuation! https://twitter.com/briggityboppity/status/1180607435553329157?s=19
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Oct 6, 2019 15:49
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Junior G-man posted:Paup blood DOES have a valuation! https://twitter.com/briggityboppity/status/1180610510733099008 2% of the export economy is the literal blood of the poor lol.
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Junior G-man posted:Paup blood DOES have a valuation! wired and steely: The Plasmatarian Blood Crusade
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OwlFancier posted:2% of the export economy is the literal blood of the poor lol. Games Workshop is onto something.
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Junior G-man posted:Paup blood DOES have a valuation! lol of course blood is a major industry, you can't make this poo poo up
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Angepain posted:All music is bad except the music I personally listen to, which I will not disclose at this point Undisclosed music SUCKS rear end and you suck and everyone you know sucks
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Pochoclo posted:lol of course blood is a major industry, you can't make this poo poo up Big Blood
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Oct 6, 2019 16:28
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I'd actually be interested to see where in the history of vampire myths they started becoming a metaphor for aristocrats, because they weren't always (unless you consider watermelons to be particularly aristocratic). It's an obvious metaphor, but who came up with it?
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I would suspect it probably evolved in a lot of places over time.
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Oct 6, 2019 16:35
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OwlFancier posted:I would suspect it probably evolved in a lot of places over time. Looking into it further, there does actually seem to be a single point of origin - The Vampyre, by John William Polidori (part of Byron and Shelley's literary circle). Most non-Western vampire traditions seem to have adopted the aristocratic vampire trope through exposure to Western literature - before then, they were treated more like zombies, with the 'supernatural aristocratic rear end in a top hat' role being filled by other monsters like fox spirits in the Far East.
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Pochoclo posted:lol of course blood is a major industry, you can't make this poo poo up  Darth Walrus posted:I'd actually be interested to see where in the history of vampire myths they started becoming a metaphor for aristocrats, because they weren't always (unless you consider watermelons to be particularly aristocratic). It's an obvious metaphor, but who came up with it? Several of the current members of the upper house could be replaced with watermelons without much noticeable difference.
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Does that book not draw on a pre existing myth? Would genuinely be surprised if there wasn't at least one indigenous example of it given, y'know, how well it works. Proliferation leading it to eclipse other readings I'd expect sure, but invented whole cloth is surprising. Though it's true there is a wide proliferation of stories about irritable dead people in basically every part of the world so I guess it makes sense that it would persist in that form. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Oct 6, 2019 |
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Before modernity and modern capital the figure of the vampire was more about revenge (at an individual level) and those fuckers who keep doing Christianity wrong and saying the wrong words during funerals the bastards (at a systemic level).
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It’s from Marx you bozos. He might not have invented the trope but it’s everywhere because of him.
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OwlFancier posted:Does that book not draw on a pre existing myth? Would genuinely be surprised if there wasn't at least one indigenous example of it given, y'know, how well it works. Proliferation leading it to eclipse other readings I'd expect sure, but invented whole cloth is surprising. It drew on existing myths with different themes (vampires symbolised disease-carriers and serial killers, plus the usual cultural baggage of the risen dead). Shelley's set were political radicals (check out The Masque of Anarchy, where Labour got its current campaign slogan from) who saw how certain old folk-tales could work really well when repurposed towards their politics.
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Ogmius815 posted:It’s from Marx you bozos. He might not have invented the trope but it’s everywhere because of him. He broadened it from 'vampire as aristocrat' to 'vampire as capital in general' and removed the religious angle.
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Ogmius815 posted:It’s from Marx you bozos. He might not have invented the trope but it’s everywhere because of him. I don't think so. The Vampyre came out fifty years before Das Kapital, and had spawned a thriving literary genre about awful supernatural aristocrats by the time Karl put pen to paper. Dracula may have been influenced by Marx, but its ties to pre-existing gothic literature are far stronger.
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Pretty drat sure some Sumerian satirist played a song on a gishgudi comparing a rich merchant to the contemporary equivalent of a vampire in their folklore back in 2000 BC, it's not a far-fetched allegory by any means
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Aphex- posted:Didn't Metallica headline glasto the other year? Yeah, 2014. And Napalm Death and Extreme Noise Terror played in 2018. Think Babymetal & Gojira played this year. It's a start like, but until they have some goons in corpse paint being very, very silly I will never be satisfied.
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Is everyone forgetting this guy, the vicious nobleman who's the actual inspiration for most of the Western vampire canon up to and including two of the more common names?
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The wretched hive, Wikipedia notes:quote:In his entry for "Vampires" in the Dictionnaire philosophique (1764), Voltaire notices how the mid-18th century coincided with the decline of the folkloric belief in the existence of vampires but that now "there were stock-jobbers, brokers, and men of business, who sucked the blood of the people in broad daylight; but they were not dead, though corrupted. These true suckers lived not in cemeteries, but in very agreeable palaces". The interesting thing about vampire lore is how it continually reinvents itself, or what one would classify as a vampire - pure blood-drinking fiends, or pestilential carriers, or swave sparkly dudes with ice cold dicks. They pull from so many disparate sources - Dracula's the obvious one, but even he has powers that later "codefied" vampire stuff lacks - he's not affected by daylight, for instance - he can't change form during the day, but can walk around in it. He also lacks the ability to tweet well, tweeting dull centrist poo poo with zero critical analysis, that he somehow gets paid for. Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Oct 6, 2019 |
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Pochoclo posted:Pretty drat sure some Sumerian satirist played a song on a gishgudi comparing a rich merchant to the contemporary equivalent of a vampire in their folklore back in 2000 BC, it's not a far-fetched allegory by any means Maybe, but they usually had other monsters for that. Middle Eastern ghouls typically symbolised desert bandits and the urban underclass, not aristocrats.
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