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Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

I stabbed you dude!

ImpAtom posted:

"Thinks they are cool and brave. Actually just furries."

"Can often be found making out with mirrors"

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Junpei
Oct 4, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!
Scorpio here, nervous. We're stereotyped as either sex addicts or psychopaths...

Digamma-F-Wau
Mar 22, 2016

It is curious and wants to accept all kinds of challenges
Libra here, I can kinda see it but the Capricorn description is way more accurate

Junpei posted:

Scorpio here, nervous. We're stereotyped as either sex addicts or psychopaths...

Ah, a Vriska eh?

BisbyWorl
Jan 12, 2019

Knowledge is pain plus observation.


Calling it now: Nicolai kidnaps the Ring Soul's wife and it joins our party to get her back.

BurningStone
Jun 3, 2011
Maybe she’ll join the party.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


Huh, do you think the ring soul's wife is another ring soul or just a regular human woman? I'm not sure what would be weirder.

Marmaduke!
May 19, 2009

Why would it do that!?
I picture him as a Japanese salary man but I fear I might be doing him a disservice

MachuPikacchu
Oct 15, 2012

Sacre vert! Maman!

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

Huh, do you think the ring soul's wife is another ring soul or just a regular human woman? I'm not sure what would be weirder.

He lives with a normal-looking wife and two kids who behave as if they don't notice/living with a floating ball of light is perfectly normal. When you find Ring Soul's house, his kids are asking him to play catch and his wife offers you a cup of tea.

Req.Martyr
May 4, 2016

I don't go by my caste, creed, or religion. My works speak for me.

MachuPikacchu posted:

He lives with a normal-looking wife and two kids who behave as if they don't notice/living with a floating ball of light is perfectly normal. When you find Ring Soul's house, his kids are asking him to play catch and his wife offers you a cup of tea.

He then goes on to do a cellphone commerical with his old college friend, a Shiba Inu with a family of his own. The Shiba somehow knows Blanca.

Eventually they're joined by Tommy Lee Jones (An Alien), and enjoy a nice can of coffee while gazing at a sunrise.

Then you can away and realize it's not actually a sunrise but is the explosion caused when Yuri fought that alien God thing in China, back in SH1

Smash cut to an ad for some gacha crossover event

Tylana
May 5, 2011

Pillbug
I always feel a little bad about Zodiac personality stereotypes. Mostly because I'm an Aquarius who has most of them except the being motivated and clever in useful ways bit. :P Though as a tangent, I do find them interesting as giving people a framework for introspection. Being able to say I am like that, or I am not like that is easier than asking What Am I Like?

I don't remember there being much worth remembering in this dungeon, so am looking forward to DarkId proving me wrong.

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

I stabbed you dude!

Tylana posted:

I always feel a little bad about Zodiac personality stereotypes. Mostly because I'm an Aquarius who has most of them except the being motivated and clever in useful ways bit. :P Though as a tangent, I do find them interesting as giving people a framework for introspection. Being able to say I am like that, or I am not like that is easier than asking What Am I Like?

I don't remember there being much worth remembering in this dungeon, so am looking forward to DarkId proving me wrong.

I don't necessarily believe in them, but I do find it fun, and find it interesting that pretty much everyone I've met who actually does believe in and study the Zodiac identifies me as a Taurus within a few minutes of meeting me.

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



The Dark Id posted:

This is a Dark elemental being with a light 57 HP to its name. It attacks via ramming targets with its both err... abdomen?
Moth?

MachuPikacchu
Oct 15, 2012

Sacre vert! Maman!

Rabbi Raccoon posted:

I don't necessarily believe in them, but I do find it fun, and find it interesting that pretty much everyone I've met who actually does believe in and study the Zodiac identifies me as a Taurus within a few minutes of meeting me.

I find them interesting from an anthropological point of view because oftentimes the way a person assigns personality traits to a Zodiac sign is a direct reflection of the relationships those person has had with people of that sign. One time I read a a book on how certain Zodiac signs pair up romantically, and it was obvious that the author went through a messy divorce with a Sagittarius.

Gilgamesh255
Aug 15, 2015
Libra here.

Well...it's not exactly wrong.

Also, I guess if you go by Gundam Wing, I'm a space station that fires lasery death...before having to be repaired everytime a shot is fired.

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

I stabbed you dude!

MachuPikacchu posted:

I find them interesting from an anthropological point of view because oftentimes the way a person assigns personality traits to a Zodiac sign is a direct reflection of the relationships those person has had with people of that sign. One time I read a a book on how certain Zodiac signs pair up romantically, and it was obvious that the author went through a messy divorce with a Sagittarius.

"A classic Sagittarius trait to watch out for is their tendency to bolt in the middle of the night with the dog you both picked out at the animal shelter downtown"

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


Rabbi Raccoon posted:

"A classic Sagittarius trait to watch out for is their tendency to bolt in the middle of the night with the dog you both picked out at the animal shelter downtown"

Yeah, that is weirdly specific.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

Yeah, that is weirdly specific.

And yet in a few months that will be part of my reality.

The Dark Id
Aug 13, 2005

Why
you
know
I
LOVE
THIS SHIT !!!!
[citation needed]
Episode XXXI: I Think I'm A Negative But I'm Not Positive


Music: Spiritualization ~ Holy Land of God




Let's see what's crackin' in the west wing of the villa. I mean, besides low-res 2D leaves on a plant that probably shouldn't be that close to the camera.



Why, there's just a big ol' pile of fortune cookies laid out for the taking. Apparently, Yuri is one of those weirdos that actually eats the cookie and doesn't just crack the thing open for the dumb fortune before tossing it in the trash.



Eating one of these will give us a randomized fortune which in turn will give us a small to moderate boost of the entire party's HP and MP... assuming it's a good fortune. It's also possible to get a bad fortune and have the entire party's HP or MP reduced somewhat. This particular fortune gives the whole party a very slight restoration of both stats. Or it would have if I didn't just save the game and used a Tent twenty seconds earlier.



Further in we find a very similar corridor to the east wing. And by very similar I mean it's the same exact corridor but mirrored. I'm afraid there are no hidden goodies in this one, though.



There is a rather vacantly furnished side room that contains another chest full of a trio of zodiac tiles. Let's see what opinions Shadow Hearts 2 has about this set of signs.



Everyone rolls their eyes and makes a jerking off motion after Sagittarius leaves the room.



Pisces are statistically the most likely to fall for pyramid schemes.



Everyone knows if you see a Scorpio plotting they're just moments away from tossing a chair through a store window and starting a riot.



Only three tiles remain. And wouldn't you know it, there's only one room we've yet to explore at the end of the hallway.



...Are you AB?
<shakes head> No. Carla is AB. I'm type B. I guess she was trying to keep me out of mischief.
They told me in the service I was type A. Too bad...
I don't know my blood type.
I don't know mine either.
Me neither.
How about you, Blanca?
Awroo...
Yeah, no dice.

That's all right. We can all just give it a shot, anyway.
This room is set up so that if you try the door and fail even once, a really great treasure inside disappears.

Lucia turns and motions to the back of the room.



If the two people have blood types that don't mix, the lamp overhead will light.
Shouldn't it light up if they DO mix?
Yes, that would probably make more sense.
...Why would you even have this thing? How does it even work?
"I don't know" is the answer to all of those questions. Tee hee.

I heard about blood types once! They say A and B don't mix with each other, but that O mixes with either. Luckily, I'm A and Lucia is B. All we have to do it find someone who makes the lamp light with both of us.
As soon as you find someone, that person just has to go back and touch the door.



OK. I guess it's time to find out everyone's blood types through a magical device that can detect only if a person's blood type matches or not via the soles of their shoes. Don't question it.



So on the right side of the device, we can select either Karin and her Type A blood or Lucia and her type B blood. On the left we have to pick one of the boys. Sorry, Blanca. Humans only.



Yuri, for example, mixes with both Type A and Type B so he's Type O blood.



Joachim mixes with Karin's blood but not Lucia's so he's Type A.



Finally, Gepetto mixes with neither Lucia nor Karin so we have our type AB winner! Sadly, the game does not make judgment calls based on people's blood types as it does with their zodiac signs. Anyway, let's examine that heart door.



I like to think there's just an elaborate contraption that drops the treasure chest into an incinerator which only exists to burn that one particular treasure chest if the puzzle is failed.



We're given the option to select who tries to open the door. Karin and Lucia are on the list even though the set-up for the puzzle specifically said it wasn't them. Sadly, there's not a wildcard Blanca option listed too.



Since we correctly selected Gepetto to open the door, we get a bonus piece of treasure.



A Petrify add-on effect. I think there is roughly a 5% chance of triggering an add-on effect. But hey, that's still a 5% chance to basically one shot a standard enemy. But more importantly than that, this room also contains the last set of zodiac tiles.



Heroic and strong but easily clowned on by any common adventurer.



Gemini I heard you talking poo poo.



There are two career options, Cancer. Scientist or half-assed at everything. Choose wisely.





In any case, now that we're equipped with all twelve zodiac tiles, we can now return downstairs and start figuring out where the hell these all get slotted. Each door has a poem (two in the case of the double-locked middle door) which will give a pretty decent clue as to what order the tiles go in. Let's start on the left and work our way right, eh?



The important thing about the zodiac tiles is solely the relief depicted on each one. The flavor text is just there for funsies.



So... key words in that poem are Children, Archer, and Wild Beast. If we shuffle through all the tiles...

Gemini has two dipshit kids hanging out. That sounds like our first tile.
Sagittarius is a centaur dude with a bow. That gives us our archer in the middle.
Leo is a big dumb lion. Lions generally qualify as wild beasts when not depicted in extreme middling live-action remakes of classic animated films. So takes care of the rightmost tile.






And there we have it. This door opens up to a dead end with a treasure chest inside. Which nets us...



The Fifth Key is the even more potent big brother of the Third Key we received a while back. This will remain in our inventory until probably the end game or never used at all until after the credits roll. You never know when you might need it just like those 23 Elixirs you were hoarding!



Doubling back, let's tackle the middle door. This one has two puzzles, one on each side. It would stand to reason this is PROBABLY the way forward. Let's start with the left side puzzle.



But getting succulent meat is the best thing of all.

OK, so wool is the bottom trash tier. Cheese is mediocre. Meat is S-Rank goods. Which means...

Aries has a lamb chilling out on it and that one is pretty obvious. So that goes at the bottom of the tiles.
Capricorn has a weird fishtailed goat. Not a big fan of goat cheese but it is a thing. So that takes care of our middle tile.
Taurus is an incredibly buff cow and I could go for a good burger right about now so that gets the top slot.




Like so. That's one half of the door unlocked. This better be worth it...



Was this the birth of Reptile from Mortal Kombat? Where's the part where he gets possessed by the spirit of Onaga? Oh well... Let's see...

Pisces is a fish. So that's a gimme at the bottom.
Cancer is a crab yeah that's a thing that came out of the sea with legs. Sure. Middle tile it is.
Scorpio is looks kind of like a crab I guess. And it is also poison. So... yeah, sure. That's how evolution worked. Top slot it is!






And there we go! This corridor does indeed lead to progress forward. As well as a treasure chest containing... a Thera Seed. You know, a thing we can buy in bulk at Pierre's shop? Yeah... I don't know if that was worth the double puzzle effort.



Anyway, it would be irresponsible to not do all four zodiac tile puzzles. Virgo, Aquarius, and Libra would feel completely left out! That said, by order of elimination the correct tiles are those three. But the order...

Virgo is a maiden so she goes on the upper scale.
Water is kind of Aquarius' thing so that goes on the lower scale.
Libra also exists so it goes on the bottom. Where it belongs.






It turns out this hallway ALSO is progress into the exact same destination. There's just no common item prize. This is the speedrunner path, clearly.



Regardless of which of the two paths we take, we're dropped off in a huge room that really looks like it ought to contain a boss fight. But nope. It's just a missive empty chamber with zero purposes beyond a save point and a hidden accessory in the corner.



Of course, an authentic Native American armband would be found in a remote island villa in Italy. It makes sense to me. This prevents the Panic status effect (loose 3x SP per turn) which... pretty sure literally nothing in the game has had the ability to do thus far. And I don't think anything too soon does either. Neat, I guess?



Well, if this wasn't the boss chamber then I've got an inkling we'll find a formidable foe down the mysterious garden path to the back of the mansion. Or an Umbrella lab. You know how these things go...



Isn't it, though?
<looks to the side and ponders silently>


Music: Flame of Strain to Blaze ~ Tension




The party scatters and admires the lovely garden and maybe considers looking for that Adriatic Magnolia thing we came here to find. We probably should have asked for a better description than "It grows on this island. Go get it!" Perhaps Lucia knows more...



Lucia... please, the fourth wall is fragile enough as it is! Don't mug for the camera! Also, why are you mugging for the camera like a scheming anime villain?

Lucia runs over to a comically oversized lever while everyone is distracted with gardening.



<smiles and nods head>



The sound of a large gate opening nearby.



Hmm...?



Sweet fancy Moses... It is a giant feline version of Poshul from Chrono Cross...



I'm going to set up a Twitter account that is just Out of Context Shadow Hearts and this will be the first image posted.



Tee hee. This is where you all die.
...Huh?!
Andre, go on ahead and get them!!
<meow>

Music: ENDS as giant cat stomping and meowing approaches Lucia.



...Huh?



Wait a minute! Stop!!
<meow>
I'm your master! Did you forget who I am?!
<angry meow>
Ugh! AAAHH!
It looks like it's trying to... eat her.
That's something you don't see every day.
...Yeah.




<MEOW!>
Maybe we should and help.
......
......
I think you're right.



Remember when this series began as a macabre survival horror game? Just saying. No real reason...






Video: Episode 31 Highlight Reel
(You should definitely watch this!)





Lucia Concept Art - Probably should have stuck to the exotic dancing and telekinetic fortunetelling and not gotten into villainy.

The Dark Id fucked around with this message at 06:33 on Oct 9, 2019

Leraika
Jun 14, 2015

Luckily, I *did* save your old avatar. Fucked around and found out indeed.
Shadow Hearts, y'all. :allears:

CmdrKing
Oct 14, 2012

Maybe if I called it 'Interpretive Stabbing'...
God, I keep laughing at that cat growl and I don't know why.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


Yuri's right. That is one big pussy.

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

I love how half hearted they are about helping her. As if they were sick and tired of Lucia's antics and the mansion halfway through.

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant

Cooked Auto posted:

I love how half hearted they are about helping her. As if they were sick and tired of Lucia's antics and the mansion halfway through.

I mean, the whole poo poo-talking different zodiac signs was fun for a while, but adding that blood type detector thing on top of that? Ridiculous. Go get eaten by a giant cat, lady.

I dont know
Aug 9, 2003

That Guy here...

Cooked Auto posted:

I love how half hearted they are about helping her. As if they were sick and tired of Lucia's antics and the mansion halfway through.

I think they were less angry about the betrayal and attempted murder than her first dragging them to an island in the middle of nowhere.

Nohman
Sep 19, 2007
Never been worse.
Dehuai seems like a villainy mastermind compared to this game's line-up of Saturday morning cartoon schmucks.

Also that video link image is choice.

FeyerbrandX
Oct 9, 2012

[img]i_am_a_genius_oh_no.png[/img]

And there goes the chosen one who was supposed to bring balance to the party composition and end the sausage fest.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

The Dark Id posted:



Sweet fancy Moses... It is a giant feline version of Poshul from Chrono Cross...

I think it looks more like someone else chu should recognise from a different JRPG...

Schwartzcough
Aug 12, 2009

Don't tease the Octopus, kids!
In Soviet Italy, pussy eats YOU!

....too easy?

achtungnight
Oct 5, 2014
I get my fun here. Enjoy!
Come on, Id, everyone knows if you don't eat the fortune cookie your fortune won't come true. At least I think that's how it goes.

Pisces- Well, I don't think I'm easily manipulated. But that's in part because I have fallen victim to others' manipulations in the past and inoculated myself.

Leo- I can attest the game is right about them. My wife is one, my cat too. Both get upset when not praised. They're not clowned on easily, though. Not sure where Id got that.

Ah, mystery solved. And a reminder to feed your cats regularly. :)

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

Nohman posted:

Dehuai seems like a villainy mastermind compared to this game's line-up of Saturday morning cartoon schmucks.

Also that video link image is choice.

And Dehuai was a guy who posessed a puppy for a while just to follow them around.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


Dehuai left his porn all over his dungeon. He'd fit right in here.

DeTosh
Jan 14, 2010
Slippery Tilde

Nohman posted:

Dehuai seems like a villainy mastermind compared to this game's line-up of Saturday morning cartoon schmucks.

Makes sense to me. Bad guys aren't a sustainable resource, and the bunch from Shadow Hearts weren't exactly the cream of the crop (Albert Simon was okay...).

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


Cancer here, is it weird that the thing I'm upset about is that I don't feel the tile description was mean enough? Come on Shadow Hearts, call me a moody little bitch!

Poor Lucia, so far all the villains in this game have been super bad at their jobs.

Ibblebibble
Nov 12, 2013

As a Sagittarian I know I'm definitely an rear end in a top hat sometimes.

Qrr
Aug 14, 2015


C'mon, Yuri, your voice line was clearly "giant pussy". You're supposed to match the subtitle!

DukeofCA
Aug 18, 2011

I am shocked and appalled.
I think Id mentioned it way back at the start of the LP but the subtitles deviate from the dialogue a lot. I think they were written using an earlier version of the script, or a different translation.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

DukeofCA posted:

I think Id mentioned it way back at the start of the LP but the subtitles deviate from the dialogue a lot. I think they were written using an earlier version of the script, or a different translation.

My guess is it's a literal translation of the Japanese script, like how anime subtitles work, because the English cutscene dialogue flows far more naturally.

The Dark Id
Aug 13, 2005

Why
you
know
I
LOVE
THIS SHIT !!!!
[citation needed]

Qrr posted:

C'mon, Yuri, your voice line was clearly "giant pussy". You're supposed to match the subtitle!

I've been omitting subtitles purposefully and putting them in text 98% of the time because they DO NOT MATCH a distressing amount of the time. But that line and screenshot is extremely funny. So that got to stay.

The actual dub track clearly had a lot of ad-libbing and was working on a later version of the script while the subtitles were like the first draft.

I think I mentioned it earlier but this game was translated by Jeremy Blaustein who did the original Metal Gear Solid, you know the one that mostly sounds like humans are talking and Kojima got super pissed at the localization so you got the extremely literal translations for the rest of the games?

The Dark Id fucked around with this message at 08:31 on Oct 8, 2019

Tylana
May 5, 2011

Pillbug
"Maybe we should try and help." *Yuri knocks out Lucia* "There, now the nice pussy won't get indigestion." *Party leaves*

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Sterski
Jun 30, 2014
Yknow what? I was expecting like a giant plant boss or some other cliché like that. Kudos to Shadow Hearts for subverting expectation I guess.

On a related note WHAT THE gently caress

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