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bobvonunheil posted:It's "Everyone should respect me", not "I should respect others"
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Daniel Andrews attempts stand up: https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/andrews-says-extinction-rebellion-not-winning-many-friends-20191008-p52ym1.html
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Cartoon posted:Daniel Andrews attempts stand up: I'm inclined to agree that Spartacists get nothing done.
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JBP posted:I will bring the Macedonians and outmaneuver you. oh yes, gentrify me JBP-sama
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Oct 8, 2019 05:21
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Cartoon posted:Daniel Andrews attempts stand up: What if he’s right
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BBJoey posted:What if he’s right He isn't right. Peaceful protest has been ignored. Coordinated civil disobedience is the next logical step. People will join.
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Oct 8, 2019 05:51
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Remember when hundreds of trucks drove into Canberra to protest against a price on carbon and the Coalition was apparently fine with protests blocking streets?
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Oct 8, 2019 06:17
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I remember when hundreds of thousands of people joined together in a totally peaceful demonstration to protest Australia's involvement in Iraq, which the government promptly ignored.
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Oct 8, 2019 06:23
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Amethyst posted:He isn't right. Peaceful protest has been ignored. Coordinated civil disobedience is the next logical step. People will join. I hope you’re right, but struggle to foresee protests reaching critical mass when the Australian public can’t even clear the bar of not electing the Coalition.
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Oct 8, 2019 06:26
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Bargearse posted:I remember when hundreds of thousands of people joined together in a totally peaceful demonstration to protest Australia's involvement in Iraq, which the government promptly ignored. All these things do is test to what limit each individual needs to hit before saying "well at least I tried!" and getting back to normal
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Oct 8, 2019 06:27
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JBP posted:All these things do is test to what limit each individual needs to hit before saying "well at least I tried!" and getting back to normal Because it was mainly affecting far off foreigners. If Australians were being killed daily the movement would have escalated from the protests.Extinction rebellion will escalate as climate change starts to really bite.
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Oct 8, 2019 07:11
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JBP posted:All these things do is test to what limit each individual needs to hit before saying "well at least I tried!" and getting back to normal Yes, until they don’t. That’s under pre climate change circumstances. Meanwhile the normalcy bias isn’t applying to the bushfire season, droughts or the antarctic.
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Oct 8, 2019 07:15
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I feel a little weird posting in this thread about this but I'll try and muster whatever support I can right now. Two XR people (Tom and Lily) are still being held at Surry Hills station. They refused to sign the bail conditions last night. Today they went before a magistrate who struck those egregious conditions down. Police are still refusing to release them. I am back up in the mountains and currently under those draconian bail conditions until I can get them varied. So I can't go down myself. If anyone is in or near Surry Hills there is a protest underway there now. I urge anyone who can to spread the word about this and help us get these guys out. They are both absolutely lovely people and don't deserve this.
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Oct 8, 2019 07:53
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gently caress nsw cops. i hope there's someone in here or out there who can help, dude. apologies from victoria
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Oct 8, 2019 08:03
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Crisis over. They were just released.
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Oct 8, 2019 08:24
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Don't know why I'm sharing this but don't really know what the gently caress else to do, just want to give a thread shoutout to my dog who we had to put down this afternoon. He was the best dog in the whole entire world and if you have a pet you should give them lots of treats and love tonight.
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Senor Tron posted:Remember when hundreds of trucks drove into Canberra to protest against a price on carbon and the Coalition was apparently fine with protests blocking streets? but it's canberra, nothing of importance happens there to obstruct.
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Oct 8, 2019 08:45
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Oct 8, 2019 08:46
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does Australia have any history of movements* through protests or mass civil disobedience like the US does? *outside of making GBS threads itself every 3 years
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i'm gonna clarify that a bit further to 'successful' examples
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Whitlam posted:Don't know why I'm sharing this but don't really know what the gently caress else to do, just want to give a thread shoutout to my dog who we had to put down this afternoon. He was the best dog in the whole entire world and if you have a pet you should give them lots of treats and love tonight. I'm so sorry to hear this, hope you are looking after yourself
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Whitlam posted:Don't know why I'm sharing this but don't really know what the gently caress else to do, just want to give a thread shoutout to my dog who we had to put down this afternoon. He was the best dog in the whole entire world and if you have a pet you should give them lots of treats and love tonight. Oh no. Sorry for your loss. Dogs are the best people.
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Oct 8, 2019 08:52
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BBJoey posted:What if he’s right 
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Oct 8, 2019 09:15
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Thanks everyone. poo poo loving sucks.
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Oct 8, 2019 09:20
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remember the drought relief funding that coincidentally ended up almost entirely in liberal electorates?Councillor calls for $1m drought support funding to be redirected away from his area posted:The Federal Drought Minister wants an audit of Bureau of Meteorology rainfall figures as a Victorian councillor rejects the need for his shire to receive $1 million in drought support. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-30/councillor-calls-for-$1-million-drought-support-to-be-redirected/11558818 
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Oct 8, 2019 09:29
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Sappy Fingers posted:XR is cool and good. The Brisbane chapter has lots of nice people and it's only getting bigger It is and I implore anyone on the fence about joining to get off it and join. Even if you think the cause is hopeless you will never meet a kinder, more thoroughly decent group of people in your life. Better to face the coming poo poo storm with good people that can at least agree it's coming. You don't need to be arrested (although it helps) to find a role and be valuable. There are a whole range of important roles people can fill. When I got let out last night I walked out of the police station and into the arms of half a dozen friendly faces ready with food, support, a place to stay if I wanted. It's also not just about protesting. Know how to grow food and want to teach that skill to people? That's an action you can do. Everyone has something they can offer.
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hambeet posted:i'm gonna clarify that a bit further to 'successful' examples so that’s a win i’d say
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Attempts by the WA Government to limit power price rises could lead to inflation-busting bill hikes or taxpayer-funded bailouts down the line for the state's stricken power retailer, energy experts and the Opposition warn. State-owned Synergy last month handed down the biggest financial reverse ever reported by a WA Government trading enterprise, booking a $657 million loss for the 12 months to June 30. At the heart of the result was the runaway uptake of rooftop solar and large-scale renewable energy, which Synergy said was hollowing out demand for electricity from its coal- and gas-fired power plants. Revenues fell by 4.7 per cent to $2.84 billion, while the amount of solar in the South West grid rose by more than 20 per cent to 1100 megawatts of capacity. The dire performance prompted Synergy to announce in August that it would bring forward the partial closure of its biggest coal-fired generator, Muja in Collie, from 2022. On the back of the decision, Synergy wrote down the value of its plant and equipment by a massive $430 million. This has left the group with a net asset value of just $250 million, compared with $1.13 billion in 2014, once provisions for huge costs such as decommissioning Muja are offset against the value remaining in its assets.  THE FREE MARKETWhitlam posted:Don't know why I'm sharing this but don't really know what the gently caress else to do, just want to give a thread shoutout to my dog who we had to put down this afternoon. He was the best dog in the whole entire world and if you have a pet you should give them lots of treats and love tonight. 
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Can anyone tell me what this click bait article by convicted-racist is about? https://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/...5856-1570328872 I hate myself and therefore want to indulge AB Whitlam posted:Don't know why I'm sharing this but don't really know what the gently caress else to do, just want to give a thread shoutout to my dog who we had to put down this afternoon. He was the best dog in the whole entire world and if you have a pet you should give them lots of treats and love tonight. That is really poo poo, condolences lilbeefer fucked around with this message at 10:36 on Oct 8, 2019 |
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hambeet posted:does Australia have any history of movements* through protests or mass civil disobedience like the US does? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight-hour_day#Australia
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I wonder exactly how long it took for this to get capitalism-ed into non existence
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Funky See Funky Do posted:I feel a little weird posting in this thread about this but I'll try and muster whatever support I can right now. Two XR people (Tom and Lily) are still being held at Surry Hills station. They refused to sign the bail conditions last night. Today they went before a magistrate who struck those egregious conditions down. Police are still refusing to release them. I am back up in the mountains and currently under those draconian bail conditions until I can get them varied. So I can't go down myself. If anyone is in or near Surry Hills there is a protest underway there now. I urge anyone who can to spread the word about this and help us get these guys out. They are both absolutely lovely people and don't deserve this. Some SC will take this pro bono, hopefully? Have you rung around?
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Amethyst posted:Some SC will take this pro bono, hopefully? Have you rung around? There a quite a few issues that will be put to the NSW Council of Civil liberties in coming weeks. For now they've been released and a magistrate has found the bail conditions imposed by NSW Police to be excessive. So that's a win. Hopefully everyone else takes the time to get their bail conditions varied this week. I know I will be. I think next time everyone will be given the advice not to sign any bail conditions they believe are excessive and just spend the night in custody. The cops got away with it this time because nobody was really prepared for them to do it. But to answer your question; yes there are people with various levels of legal expertise working behind the scenes to help people navigate their bail issues and court appearances.
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Sappy Fingers posted:XR is cool and good. The Brisbane chapter has lots of nice people and it's only getting bigger I know some of the organizers here in WA and they are good people doing good work.
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That's a good one. Anything else? I ask because I recall a convo I had with a yank mate about six months ago, and he was banging on about how protesting is much more effective in the US than Australia, and was citing their history of such movements like civil rights, vietnam war and a handful others I can't recall right now. Anyway was just curious. hambeet fucked around with this message at 11:17 on Oct 8, 2019 |
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Oct 8, 2019 11:14
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not sure about the effectiveness of anti-Vietnam protests, chief
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hambeet posted:That's a good one. The environmental movement in the 80s?
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Having ads on the Opera House. A true blue movement.
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