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So who is now actually running Iraq? Al Sadr seems to have the largest party, but there are a lot of them. And the president is ex PUK? And the prime minister Iran aligned religious Shia ex-marxist?
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lmao why does the f-35 have a steel frame
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turkey isn't involved in the F-35 program anyway because they made the much wiser decision to buy S-400's from russia instead
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Raskolnikov38 posted:lmao why does the f-35 have a steel frame dunno if it's even true but, steel bends, alu cracks. bending bad, cracking death. not that that would help with an f35, but still also high quality steel is more expensive, and lockheed need more cash
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Damascus' response to this will be key. If the SAA move to aid the Kurds could potentially see Erdogan moving to invoke article 5 if the Russians back Assad. Too much oil for Damascus to let the Turks just seize.
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Assad's Russian AA could cripple Turkey no? That seems like the only hope.
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The problem with the F-35 this whole time is that we've been getting our steel frames from Turkey and not Damascus.
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Hanzo steel frames
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jet fuel cant melt turkish steel frames
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Frijolero posted:Assad's Russian AA could cripple Turkey no? That seems like the only hope. there's always the curse of assad
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Truga posted:dunno if it's even true but, steel bends, alu cracks. bending bad, cracking death. not that that would help with an f35, but still why not titanium
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Raskolnikov38 posted:lmao why does the f-35 have a steel frame its almost certainly an alloy and its full composition wouldn't fit in a tweet and also trump doesn't know what it is and also blurting out what it is would violate some secrecy directive or other (not that trump or anyone itt really gives a poo poo)
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or--and i hope everyone reading this is sitting down--the president is Full of poo poo, On-Line
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the president demands turkish plumbum for grapeshot
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the F-35's main problem is that it was designed to be the same basic plane in three versions for the air force, navy and marines. the navy one has bigger wings for carrier launches, and the marine version has a big lift fan in the center so it can take off and land vertically from baby carriers -- like a harrier jump jet. the point is so the planes can be designed / built at the same time, and share parts, which is supposed to make it cheaper. it's the most expensive airplane ever though so it didn't really work out as planned. but the lift fan makes the F-35 look like a fat and bloated chicken with little chicken wings. it looks fat:  not fat:  and even though the air force and navy versions do not have the lift fan, they are also fat because of the same basic design. this isn't about looks though but aerodynamic performance, weight, and compactness (which makes the F-35 very hot). it also doesn't have great range which is a problem for the navy version, since you need long range when operating from carriers -- because the closer a carrier is to the enemy the more vulnerable it is. the turbofan engine is powerful but there's only one of them, like the nimble F-16. the navy's F/A-18 and the air force's F-15 have two engines. it's good to have an extra engine, especially if you're a U.S. ally like canada that regularly flies its fighter around the arctic where there are few places to land if something goes wrong. the advertising says: don't worry the F-35 is a dog that can't turn or dodge anything because it's a stealth fighter. so you're just hoping russia and china doesn't modify or otherwise develop radars that can defeat that. my understanding of stealth is that there is no all-purpose stealth, just stealth designed to hide from particular types of radio waves on the electromagnetic spectrum. you can even trace the origin of this in part to the invasion of grenada (oddly) which was kind of a debacle. the U.S. quickly won the war, obviously, but the different branches didn't do a good job communicating with each other leading to various mistakes (U.S. naval gunfire and warplanes killing U.S. troops on the ground among other things). so afterwards congress passed the goldwater-nichols act which reorganized the chain of command and centralized procurement decisions.
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Real hurthling! posted:the sooner america is a sad old country with no force projection shaking its nuclear fist at the drat kids in its yard but secretly knowing the missiles dont work anymore, the better
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Oh so were not actually taking our troops home, were just moving them out of the way of the genocideaires
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StashAugustine posted:Oh so were not actually taking our troops home, were just moving them out of the way of the genocideaires The virgin US soldier vs the chad Janissary
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The US troops need to stay in Syria to make sure the SAA doesn't get in the way of the Turkish Army
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wow we aren’t gonna do anything and let turkey do what they want without us. talk about owned
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Having thought about it a bit, it does fit Trump's moronic image of US armed forces being mercenaries for hire to other nations around the world. Problem is, pres. babbyhands gets duped so easily by other nation's dictators that proud 'merican soldiers are just selling themselves cheap as gently caress. Heck, I'm sure Turkey will keep on happily buying S400s from Russia anyway and lol at the F-35.
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Turkey is a trash nation making a move to be the worst nation in the middle east. Do they beat out Israel? only time will tell
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remembering all those 90s and early ought glowing opinion pieces about how turkey was the only secular nation in the region with a muslim majority
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Grapplejack posted:Turkey is a trash nation making a move to be the worst nation in the middle east. Do they beat out Israel? only time will tell Hey, Saudi Arabia is right over there.
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Dreylad posted:remembering all those 90s and early ought glowing opinion pieces about how turkey was the only secular nation in the region with a muslim majority Growing up there they kept telling us that in schools too lol
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Nationalism is a helluva drug.
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i see trump is saying turkey has kurds already so it's cool hsdhshdqksdqsdq
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Kurtofan posted:i see trump is saying turkey has kurds already so it's cool I thought they just had hill turks? 
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lol, democracy dies in darkness https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/10/08/world-must-support-turkeys-plan-northeastern-syria/ quote:By Fahrettin AltunOctober 8 at 5:51 PM 
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Its utterly amazing how everyone across the political spectrum, even the absolute fascist demons, oppose this move and blatant genocide and yet its still going to go through because only one person has absolute power in this country and  Well except for Rand Paul, who exposed himself as a Lindsay Graham tier ghoul
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so according to that, the turks are working with the russians to crush the kurds, and also ISIS sleeper cells are activating. just extremely cool. this loving stupid incompetent mindless impotent fat zombie of a country is going to be completely blindsided when some kid who was caught in the middle of this blows himself up at citi field or whatever in 2027, and every single person is going to be like WHY WOULD ANYONE HATE US?
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This is the first Friedman article I've ever read and it is aggressively idiotic even for the NYT editorials https://twitter.com/tomfriedman/status/1181665706900889601 quote:The drones and cruise missiles flew so low and with such stealth that neither their takeoff nor their impending attack was detected in time by Saudi or U.S. radar. The pro-Iranian Houthi militia in Yemen claimed responsibility for the raid. That was as believable as saying that Santa Claus did it. So the drones/missiles weren't detected coming from Iran but the only other option is believable as Santa Claus. Guess Iran just has super missiles huh??
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:This is the first Friedman article I've ever read and it is aggressively idiotic even for the NYT editorials you just need the mustache of understanding 
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