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Epic High Five posted:weird how none of the press is at all concerned about a popular revolt against an unpopular government in any of the half dozen places literally burning US embassies to the ground and is instead worried only about Venezuela Venezuela is old news. Hong Kong is new hotness. Hong Kong chuds beating on a train with sticks gets more press coverage than Haitians burning down police stations, or Ecuadorians forcing their own government to flee the capital.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Venezuela is old news. Hong Kong is new hotness. imagine if the HK protesters were anti-government protesters here doing the exact same stuff lmao the press and chuds would be howling for tanks to run them all over and machine gun the rest
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Epic High Five posted:imagine if the HK protesters were anti-government protesters here doing the exact same stuff lmao It would never get that far, because motorists would run them over en masse.
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Oct 8, 2019 17:11
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Chef's Kiss https://twitter.com/jguaido/status/1181397848258162688
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Maduroooo!!!
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Epic High Five posted:weird how none of the press is at all concerned about a popular revolt against an unpopular government in any of the half dozen places literally burning US embassies to the ground and is instead worried only about Venezuela they don't have the oil Frijolero posted:Chef's Kiss  still extremely mad the SA smily is  and not :vegeta:
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Mod edit: FBI bait (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Oct 8, 2019 17:40
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A foreign-backed coup is trying to upend a legitimate government, you say???
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i do sorta miss zapplez posting horny for guaido, they should start again but in this thread 
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/08/opinion/john-bolton-maduro.html During John Bolton’s recently ended tenure as national security adviser, he convinced President Trump that the Venezuelan leader Nicolás Maduro was on the verge of losing power. Mr. Bolton is reported to have been the architect of the several failed attempts to unseat President Maduro, a frequent target of Mr. Trump’s bluster. We now know that Mr. Maduro’s fall was not imminent. Instead, Mr. Bolton bluffed on the high-ranking military officials who were about to betray Mr. Maduro; he bluffed on the number of people who would take to the streets in April to try to overthrow the Maduro regime; and he also seemed to believe that sanctions would work very quickly. Most important, though, his biggest mistake was to proceed along those lines without any Plan B in case this Plan A did not work. In the end, he has succeeded only in making Mr. Maduro stronger.  e: it goes on to say how Maduro is bad and still needs to be overthrown. dont read it. RealityWarCriminal has issued a correction as of 20:04 on Oct 8, 2019 |
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I don't know what the right thread for this is, but: what's the best source to keep up to date irt Ecuador? My brother just got down there to be a whitewater guide or so he said and while it doesn't look like anything too worrying is going on, would like to be able to keep up with it
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Reality Sinner posted:https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/08/opinion/john-bolton-maduro.html Oh the tears. The delicious loving neocon tears.
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quote:He also achieved his first diplomatic victory in years last week at the United Nations Human Rights Council in Geneva, persuading enough countries, including China, Cuba, Egypt, Iran and Mexico, to vote for a resolution to promote a peaceful solution the Venezuelan crisis without foreign interference, which should be taken with a grain of salt coming from Mr. Maduro. what the gently caress does this even mean lol
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TeenageArchipelago posted:I don't know what the right thread for this is, but: what's the best source to keep up to date irt Ecuador? My brother just got down there to be a whitewater guide or so he said and while it doesn't look like anything too worrying is going on, would like to be able to keep up with it Last I heard the protesters made the government flee its own capital.
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Oct 9, 2019 06:52
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Ecuador have the Good protesters that are trying to kick out Lenin Moreno for being a neolib sell-out There were also Good protests in Honduras (at least as of June) against the right-wing government there that's been in power since 2009 when Manuel Zelaya (who wasn't even that left-wing) was deposed by security forces It was Nicaragua that had to beat back a US-backed attempted coup of their Sandinista-party President Daniel Ortega And then finally we also have right-wing protests in Bolivia trying to stir-up poo poo to remove left-wing President Evo Morales from power just as the country is about to head into another election that about right?
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gh0stpinballa posted:what the gently caress does this even mean lol Propagandists gotta propagandize.
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gradenko_2000 posted:Ecuador have the Good protesters that are trying to kick out Lenin Moreno for being a neolib sell-out Dont forget that peru is going through a constitutional crisis now as well
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Last I heard the protesters made the government flee its own capital. That's a bit more concerning but I'm not gonna worry too much until the kidnapping of randos or murder gangs start. Probably should Google the address of the US consulate in Ecuador and make sure that he has it written down somewhere though
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isn't ortega kind of a piece of poo poo
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gradenko_2000 posted:Ecuador have the Good protesters that are trying to kick out Lenin Moreno for being a neolib sell-out The US didn't back the Nicaraguan protesters although they did make a few vague anti-Ortega noises. The protests there were against pension reform that was basically just straight austerity and benefit cuts so US quiescence is perhaps unsurprising even if they hate Ortega.
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The US did pass sanction on Nicaragua not long after using the protests as justification, included Nicaragua as part of the "Troika of Tyranny," and had funded many of the NGOs that were involved in the protests.
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Atrocious Joe posted:The US did pass sanction on Nicaragua not long after using the protests as justification, included Nicaragua as part of the "Troika of Tyranny," and had funded many of the NGOs that were involved in the protests. huh I'd missed those sanctions, looks like they (unsurprisingly) all happened under Bolton's tenure. Kinda weird timing since the sanctions all came after the protests had already died down a bit, but I guess they continued to slow burn over the summer. There were several thousand opposition people who ended up fleeing since last year, the crackdown has been pretty strong.
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it’s almost certain that the US was involved in arming the gangs who tried locking down the streets in Nicaragua and kidnapped & tortured anyone they suspected of being a Sandinista. the anti-spending cut protests were immediately seized on as a right wing coup attempt.
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Looking at the state department page the Nicaraguan sanctions block the country from receiving any IMF, World Bank, or Inter-American Development Bank loans. It's pretty strict. There's also a bunch of personal sanctions on Ortega and his top lieutenants but those are comparatively unimportant. Nicaragua is fairly reliant on international credit so locking them out of access to those institutions is pretty serious.
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Oct 9, 2019 23:23
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national extortion
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Atrocious Joe posted:The US did pass sanction on Nicaragua not long after using the protests as justification, included Nicaragua as part of the "Troika of Tyranny," and had funded many of the NGOs that were involved in the protests. yup https://thegrayzone.com/2018/07/30/...-and-sanctions/ quote:A detailed study of the death toll that has been recorded in Nicaragua since a violent campaign to remove President Daniel Ortega and his Sandinista government shows that at least as many Sandinista supporters were killed as opposition members. The study, “Monopolizing Death,” demonstrates how partisan local NGOs conflated all deaths that occurred since April, including accidents and the murders of Sandinistas, with killings by government forces. Washington has seized on the bogus death count to drive the case for sanctions and intensify pressure for regime change.
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Percelus posted:i do sorta miss zapplez posting horny for guaido, they should start again but in this thread Any of us could be one of his parachute accounts.  (well, except for the fact that he's notoriously bad at hiding those lol)
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i was reading a thread from 2016 and I ran across a post from our favorite venezuelan expat goon who definitely opposes american military interventionfnox posted:As a Venezuelan there is nothing I would desire more in this world than to have the US run my country instead of some incompetent chucklefucks who think the country that buys the most of our oil is our enemy.
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Slanderer posted:i was reading a thread from 2016 and I ran across a post from our favorite venezuelan expat goon who definitely opposes american military intervention Oh my God, he was everything we said he was and more.
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i vaguely remember some members of the nicaraguan ayn ran fan club taking part in the protests and then touring the u.s. to meet ted cruz and then popping up at ISO meetings to give talks on their apparent revolution with their faces masked
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does human rights watch do any good or is it complete trash
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Doctor Jeep posted:does human rights watch do any good or is it complete trash gently caress Human Rights Watch. Their whole schtick is to write down "human rights abuses" and stuff them in a manila folder somewhere to be pulled out whenever the US spots oil or a new consumer market
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Doctor Jeep posted:does human rights watch do any good or is it complete trash HRW is absolute trash. Amnesty International is equally useless, but at least they’re correct sometimes.
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https://twitter.com/dancohen3000/status/1182120144665022464?s=20
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Well now I'm getting a bit more worried about my brother
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https://youtu.be/7fy-g7udAew Real News report on the class character of the Ecuadorian demonstrations.
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Shooting to cripple your own citizens, who you will have to care for in the future, to own the libs
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lol if you think the current ecuadorian government will ever take care of those citizens
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